Another sitting debate.

Likely another firework-less debate.

"there arent any rules" stupid

whats wrong with tim? he looks ill

Is this going to be a clapping debate?

A mandate on INSURANCE.

Not a mandate on HEALTH CARE.

It took a few debates, but Obama finally succinctly gave the answer I've been waiting for.

PLEASE DO NOT THINK I"M BEING TROLLISH...

maybe it's just my tv, but it seems that Hillary is wearing more make-up than she did in previous debates.

Hillary is getting personal

GOOD!!!!!!!!!!

first question by making this the same debate about mandates that has happened for a year.

subsidies through tax breaks.

Tax breaks don't help much when you're trying to pay for your monthly premiums.

When you live check to check - It's a LONG time between April 15ths.

Is there an audio only feed for this?  The MSNBC streaming video is horrible and keeps cutting out on me (and I don't get MSNBC)

"the issurence companies don't care if there is mandates"

what kind of BS is that!!!

MSNBC's Internet feed is absolutely terrible.

comparing universal INSURANCE purchases to Social Security.

It's not the same thing.

In fact, HRC's universal insurance plan would be like PRIVATIZING Social Security -- it would make Social Security a "mandated 401K"

Obama is NOT for universal health care. it's like saying you're a communists country when you're actually a dictatorship. It's saying one thing when it's actually something else.

I hate MSNBC!! I'm in a library (stupid grad school) and the feed is awful. all you mydders who can type and listen at the exact same time, help us out!!

i'm 20 and don't think i'm immortal!  the only thing keeping me from being a hypocondriac (spelled right?) is the fact that i'm very cheap!

This is an enormous issue, and is very important to Democrats. Fucking Brian Williams won't let them continue debating it.

That's the heart of the matter.

I do not believe in government FORCING me to do things.  I am fine when the government PENALIZES me for something I should have done.  They should not "PRE-penalize" me.

snl again?  really?  refing snl is more of a huckabee thing.

is everyone else noticing this but every time Obama interrupts Hillary he gives this face that looks like he is better than Hillary or he is holding back   on trying not to yell at her.  

Maybe she's hoping for a Tina Fey bouce

Seriously?

Interestingly, Jacob Hacker doesn't think mandates are all that important.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/comm entary/la-oe-hacker26feb26,0,3044897.sto ry

For those of without a feed what did she say?

i dont think this attacking strategy is going to work, i dont think it is what she is good at.

what was the SNL reference? does he want pillows? why does she always have to answer first? what is that supposed to mean...

Complaining that she keeps getting asked to answer first? Doesn't seem a good strategy.

I'm sorry. Obama's plan is simply not universal. To say it is is to define universality down.

I am glad both of them kept talking over the moderators. Brian Williams talks about sixteen minutes of health care discussion as if that's a bad thing.

That line didn't work, I don't think.

It sounded awfully whiny.   I'm not saying it isn't a point she couldn't or shouldn't make - but that was a terrible way to make it.

MSNBC's internet feed is absolutely horrible.  It cuts out so often I can't even understand what they are talking about.

OMG what is Obama going to do about NAFTA??  Totally ducked the question.

Obama goes into filibuster mode again.

Citing SNL in a prsidential debate and sarcastically asking her opponent if he needs a pillow is decidedly NOT presidential.

Stick a fork in her. She's done.

This msnbc video feed is just awful.  They clearly don't have enough bandwidth.  On my end, video is unwatchable and audio drops out regularly.  Does anyone know of an audio-only feed?

Clinton complained about always being asked the first question...when it was only the second question?

The first question went to her because they played two Clinton clips.

The second question was about NAFTA and her position(s).

why doesn't Williams attack Obama like he is trying to do with Hillary!!!

How annoying is Tim Russert?

more annoying than Wolfe!

and that's saying something!

This internet feed is atrocious.

So far, the audience is subdued.  But Obama is on the defensive and is giving a wishy-washy response on whether to get out of NAFTA.

Wrong Obama: Americans are the most productive people in the world, not just as productive.

I have no idea what Obama is saying, because the audio keeps dropping out. Did he say he would pull the US out of NAFTA?

why is she so loud? She's practically yelling. I have to turn down my TV every time she starts talking.

there should be a debate without moderators with just the candidates talking to each other and asking each other questions

anyone else having a problem with the live feed?

I thought Al Gore was going to be President! EXACTLY RIGHT

Thought al gore was going to be prez, that was a pretty good line.

In response to a question about whether NAFTA has actually been somewhat decent for Ohio, Obama appears to not even pretend to answer the question and repeat his standard canned economic plan.

Tough question from Russert about Clinton and New York jobs. Not sure the Al Gore deferral tactic worked, but it was creative.

This feed is giving me a headache.  But I shouldn't have expected any better from MSNBC.

These moderator questions are terrible. The health care part of the debate was the best one in terms of eliciting a good discussion, and that had nothing to do with the moderators.

Obama is losing because the audience is not helping him this time.

saying SHE voted for the money for the war?  kamikaze?  that is not a good tactic in my opinion.

i guess that means that Obama is a robot and runs on applause.

http://wksu.org/

you're welcome.

Going alan keyes is a high stakes campaign?

umm

by Obama.

"Clinton's aside about always getting the first question was a bit odd."

A bit of an understatement... I can't remember anyone ever using SNL as evidence of their problems.

Of course, there has been the writer's strike... maybe all the candidates would be using SNL to support their theories if it had been going on the whole time.

"give in to g bush on day one."  swing and a miss

Clinton has yet to win a debate about Iraq against Obama, and she never will. It all comes down to their early support/opposition to the war.

wasn't it actual intelligence that got us in Iraq in the first place.  

Obama on Iraq:

I agree he gave a good speech. But since then, I don't think of him as being a vocal opponent of the war. Neither of them has really tried to do much that I can remember.

I like how he referred to Bush as "this individual." Ha.

Obama is keep sending hand or facial signals to Brian Williams and Tim Russert to help him? I get it Obama. They love you. You do not need to behave like their favorite student here. It is very funny to see him looking at them and practically begging to cut Hillary.

Hillary is not holding up well...

She's acted like a petulant child

oh god!  re-invade iraq!  this won't go well for anyone.

Is scaring me....

But Hillary got him: you're not in reality.

Russert is off on a bizarre question of what if. Hillary properly shuts him up.

What's wrong with Tim Russert? Actually I feel he is trying to trap BOTH Hillary and Obama for Republicans. No more hypothetical questions!

Obama really walked into that thing about the subcommittee on Europe by talking about the Foreign Relations Committee.

...and join forces with the terrorists, and Jack Bauer can't diffuse the bomb in time...

Seems to be pretty even so far, honestly though could the moderators quit playing gotcha, last week's debate was the only one that didn't seem like the mods hated both canidates.

Hillary is coming across as she is screaming...the line about the pillow was ridiculous. Why is she always interrupting the moderator. Interview: Obama!

Oh. good. Just like SNL. Great Obama does not need any follow-ups. Commercial break! Ha Ha. It's getting actually very funny!

Obama: I was too busy campaigning to hold any hearings. Not a good answer.

Clinton has managed to hold at least three hearings on her Subcommittee on Superfund and Environmental Health, the last on October 17, 2007.

Brian Williams: Commercials are more important than the debate.

and they dont go back to her!

It's insane. Are they showing Hillary criticizing Obama AGAIN?

Wait, wasn't Clinton trying to say something before they went to break? But now they come back and ask a question to Obama?

always goes to the controversy.

http://www.cagle.com/caglecards/main.asp ?image=http://cagle.com/working/080226/e nglehart.jpg

It's a bit of a stretch to say that Obama passed the ethics reform bill. That was a huge collective effort, and Harry Reid was the main sponsor. I don't think Obama was even a cosponsor.

I think Obama just gave his entire stump speech in response to the mistaken question.

I am getting tired of Obama's annecdotal stories. I know you met a lot of people! So what are you going to do specifically to help them? Tell me!

Obama is boring the hell out of me because he is resorting to pat speeches and being overly defensive about the "all talk, no action" meme.  He's not shutting Hillary down.  If he lets her make a comeback, he doesn't deserve to be president.  And I want Obama to win.

moon over parma, give your love to me tonight.

I suppose it's a good thing that NBC is asking them to back up their campaign rhetoric.

GOD THAT IS BULLSHIT!

she didnt say she wanted it to fail, she said she was glad it DID FAIL

JIM COOPER IS A FUCKBAG

All they are doing is playing these stupid attack clips. Now they're playing one where Obama is attacking Clinton...

Where are the issues? The Moderators are trying to get them to attack each other on personal issues, but the candidates are fighting back and talking about the real issues.

The best debate was the head-to-head one before Super Tuesday. That one was almost all about the issues. This one just sucks.

and there goes the feed again

How dare! Did he just mention JIM COOPER??

NO RESPONSE?

question.  

Russert is asking some of the most ridiculous questions tonight.

is anyonelse uncomfortable?

UGH blah blah blah from Obama. Is this an interview or a debate?

Obama is putting me asleep more than my high school algebra teacher did

Russert - 'you once got a book from someone who knew Farrakan and said good things about him and so how can you be seen as credible on Israel?'  Wha?

Todd, I think the anger thing (for Obama) might be a lot like the emotion thing (for Clinton) something that they can't do too much because of the stereotypes that surround women and Black men.

What is going on? The first pointy question for OBAMA is this? WOW! MSNBC REALLY works for republicans.

she is going after him on this?

ridiculous.

That was a nice response by Obama.

two highlights so far:

1. when obama corrected clinton's misrepresentation of his statement on pakistan, highlighting, while doing so, the fact that bush recently did exactly what obama had suggested, resulting in the capture of the 3rd most wanted al qaeda member. another 'judgement' point for obama.

2. when obama called her out on crediting her 8 years as first lady as relevant experience, yet opting out of responsibility for things are inconvenient, such as nafta.

obama is cool, calm & collected. hillary is not faring very well at all.

with someone to his front-left.   Who or what is he smirking at?

more liberal than kennedy.

hehehe

saw his soul.. isnt that what obama wants to do when he is off negotiating with these states?

Wathing Keith discuss the debate.  He needs to just jo to Obama and get it over with.  He is so in love this this guy he can't possibly give an unbiased opinion of the debate.