The Trouble With The Auto Bailout

After the Republican Congress tried to kill an auto bailout, the Republican President has gone around them and approved $17.4b in loans from TARP to rescue the auto industry.

Citing danger to the national economy, President Bush approved an emergency bailout of the U.S. auto industry Friday, offering $17.4 billion in rescue loans in exchange for tough concessions from the deeply troubled carmakers and their workers.

The government will have the option of becoming a stockholder in the companies, much as it has with major banks, in effect partially nationalizing the industry. [...]

Allowing the massive auto industry to collapse in the middle of what is already a severe recession cannot be allowed, Bush said.

"It would worsen a weak job market and exacerbate the financial crisis," he said. "It could send our suffering economy into a deeper and longer recession. And it would leave the next president to confront the demise of a major American industry in his first days of office."

Of course, they're still holding the auto industry to an entirely different standard than they held Wall St. to, i.e., suddenly there are conditions and strings in order for the auto industry to get the money:

Viability Requirement: The firms must use these funds to become financially viable. Taxpayers will not be asked to provide financing for firms that do not become viable. If the firms have not attained viability by March 31, 2009, the loan will be called and all funds returned to the Treasury.

Definition of Viability: A firm will only be deemed viable if it has a positive net present value, taking into account all current and future costs, and can fully repay the government loan.

Binding Terms and Conditions: The binding terms and conditions established by the Treasury will mirror those that were voted favorably by a majority of both Houses of Congress...

Interesting that the fact that a majority of Congress voted for it is good enough to sell the President's plan, just not good enough to pass it. Got it.

But notice the further strings attached to this money, buried way down under the "Targets" section:

  • Work rules that are competitive with transplant auto manufacturers by 12/31/09.
  • Wages that are competitive with those of transplant auto manufacturers by 12/31/09.

Or, to put it more plainly, as Marcy Wheeler states bluntly:

The President of the United States just dictated that American corporations pay their employees significantly less than the employees of foreign owned manufacturers. And/or, he dictated that American corporations pick the pocket of their senior retirees.

This was always about union busting and in the hands of our current president, it still is. For now, President-elect Obama is on board with the plan:

"Today's actions are a necessary step to help avoid a collapse in our auto industry that would have devastating consequences for our economy and our workers," he said. "With the short-term assistance provided by this package, the auto companies must bring all their stakeholders together -- including labor, dealers, creditors and suppliers -- to make the hard choices necessary to achieve long-term viability."

But one hopes that once he is in office, perhaps after the March 31st deadline passes, that the loans can be restructured with an eye toward lifting up America's auto workers as well as the industry as a whole. Despite the mantra of conservatism for thirty years, the two goals are not mutually exclusive.

Tags: auto bailout, Barack Obama, George W Bush (all tags)

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16 Comments

What does "competitive" mean?

In plain English, if I offer wages that are higher than other employers, my wages are very competitive.  Same for working conditions.  This can be interpreted as one wants to interpret it.

by BRoss 2008-12-19 08:40AM | 0 recs
Re: What does "competitive" mean?

This wording inspires a further thought.  It seems that the situation of a worker choosing from competing offers of employment never entered the mind of any of the people involved in drafting this document.  The word "competitive" has the intended meaning only if the text is read from the viewpoint of management, stockholders, and bondholders.  The drafting betrays the feudal mindset of the drafters, in which workers are not citizens.

by BRoss 2008-12-19 10:40AM | 0 recs
Problem? What Problem?

The deal requires certain things by 3/31/09 and 12/31/09.

It's Bush's deal.  He created the requirements with nothing more than his authority as President.

By 3/31/09, Barack Obama will have been President for ten weeks.  Anything Bush did that depended only on his authority as President can be undone or modified by Obama once he is President.

So even if the deal required the automakers to construct and launch a rocket to Jupiter by 3/31/09, and even if it required that every UAW member to be aboard that rocket when it launched, it wouldn't matter.

Those requirements only have meaning if Obama wants to keep them.  And there's no reason to expect that he will.

by RT 2008-12-19 09:03AM | 0 recs
Re: Problem? What Problem?

That's why this is so much better being done by executive order rather than congressional action.  Btw, the labor stuff is not bindingbeven on its face.

by LordMike 2008-12-19 10:37AM | 0 recs
Re: Problem? What Problem?

Fact is the UAW are getting pay and benefits that are well above what toyota and honda are paying their workers. Anyone know honda or toyota workers? I do. They love the companies they work for, feel they receive good and fair pay and benefits and both their companies are doing well. Who is to blame for this mess? The companies for producing cars that are non competitive, the company for agreeing to absurd benefits and the unions for bleeding them dry. Unless both parties work to improve the vehicles they build, make them more fuel efficient and provide and agree to wages and benefitst that match the companies that are killing the Big 3, than a bailout will fail. If the UAW thinks it can continue on this road, than when these companies crash and take 200,000 workers with it...they will have accomplished nothing.

Wake up.....the benefits and wages are helping to bankrupt the companies....

by adb67 2008-12-19 10:40AM | 0 recs
Re: Problem? What Problem?

The UAW had made wage and benefit concessions prior to all this that are due to take effect in the next year or so anyway. They've now made further concessions. There's no excusing the shoddy gas-hog cars that the big three have been building. That's a huge part of the their problem. The major difference why they are doing so much worse than Toyota and Honda though is that the big three have been in business in the US long enough to actually have retirees to have to fund pensions and health care for.

Tackling health care reform nationally in a meaningful way that cuts costs will make a big difference to the financial position for the big three - as well as many other US firms who have to compete on uneven footing against foreign companies that have their health care costs covered by their respective governments. A large part of the troubles at the big three is more of an American problem than a big three problem though it impacts the big three heavily.

by Quinton 2008-12-19 12:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Problem? What Problem?

There's no excusing the shoddy gas-hog cars that the big three have been building. That's a huge part of the their problem

You are living in 1970 not 2008. That's a huge part of the problem.

by antiHyde 2008-12-19 02:18PM | 0 recs
Re: Problem? What Problem?

Chevrolet comparison with Toyota cheaper, better warranty, but 1 mpg less. Does one mpg make a gas hog?

Buick vs Lexus is Lexus "shoddy"?

And from Consumer Reports, well known hater of US cars and lover of all things Japanese:

Of the 39 cars rated "Most Reliable" in Consumer Reports new list, four are by domestic manufacturers. They are the Ford Fusion, Mercury Milan, two-wheel-drives Ford F-150 V6 and GM's Pontiac Vibe. The Vibe is built in cooperation with Toyota and shares its engineering with the Toyota Matrix.
 This quote is from Toyota skids in reliability rankings

by antiHyde 2008-12-19 02:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Problem? What Problem?

Chevrolet comparison with Toyota cheaper, better warranty, but 1 mpg less. Does one mpg make a gas hog?

You're comparing one Chevy car with one Toyota car.  A comparison at a lower level than one manufacturer's entire fleet (weighted by sales) compared to another's, is bogus.

With respect to reliability, it's simple: there's no American car I can buy, and plan on its still being reliable after 200,000 miles.  But when my wife and I bought our current Honda Accord back in January 2000, we knew we could count on that.  (It's at 181,000 now, and doing fine.)

You are living in 1970 not 2008. That's a huge part of the problem.

The Hummer H2 didn't exist in 1970.  Nor did the Lincoln Navigator and all those other elephantine SUVs.

adb67: Fact is the UAW are getting pay and benefits that are well above what toyota and honda are paying their workers. Anyone know honda or toyota workers? I do. They love the companies they work for, feel they receive good and fair pay and benefits and both their companies are doing well.

Most of the difference in employee compensation is legacy costs - paying pensions and health care for retired American auto workers.  The auto workers chose to pay past auto workers less at the time, and give them future benefits instead.  The workers are still owed the money.

And building cars is capital-intensive, not labor-intensive.  The difference in labor costs, even including all those legacy benefits, comes to about $800 per car - but the American manufacturers have to price their cars at ~$2500 less than Japanese cars, on the average, in order to compensate for the perceived quality difference.

So the penalty that the auto workers labor under due to labor costs is ~1/3 of the penalty they've brought on themselves due to a long history of making cars that just plain weren't as reliable.  (Maybe the cars they're making now are just as good, but it'll take consumers awhile to believe it.  Only time can fix that problem.)

Finally, even if the UAW lowered their labor costs to parity with the Japanese manufacturers, what's to stop Honda and Toyota and Nissan from lowering their wages too, once the UAW makes concessions on theirs?  Why, nothing.  And that's what they're gearing up to do, too.  The workers at the Japanese factories in the U.S. make good money because of the UAW.

by RT 2008-12-20 04:51AM | 0 recs
Re: Problem? What Problem?

You're comparing one Chevy car with one Toyota car.  A comparison at a lower level than one manufacturer's entire fleet (weighted by sales) compared to another's, is bogus.

No, it's the fleet comparison that is bogus. Do you know anybody that buys a fleet? The claim was made that Detroit builds nothing but gas hogs, so I linked to a comparison between a GM car, a Toyota car, and a Chrysler car all aimed at the same market segment. You can't compare a Hummer to a Corolla, nor can you compare a Tundra to a Cobalt.

by antiHyde 2008-12-23 05:28PM | 0 recs
Re: The Trouble With The Auto Bailout

It's hard to get past the fact that the Bush Administration was happy to give far, far more than this to the financial industry with no attempt whatsoever to renegotiate anyone's wages - even though compensation is 60% of the financial industry's costs, compared to a mere 10% in the auto industry.

Even Bill Kristol, who has as little of value to say as any pundit in existence, put his finger on the problem this week.

Today, G.M., Ford and Chrysler get no respect. Maybe they don't deserve much. Detroit has many sins to answer for, and it's been doing plenty of answering. But -- and I say this as someone who grew up in non-car-driving family in New York and who is the furthest thing from an auto aficionado -- there is a kind of undeserved disdain, even casual contempt, that seems to characterize the attitude of the political and media elites toward the American auto industry.

As Warren Brown, who writes about cars for The Washington Post, recently put it, "There is a feeling in this country -- apparent in the often condescending, dismissive way Detroit's automobile companies have been treated on Capitol Hill -- that people who work with their hands and the companies that employ them are inferior to those who work with their minds and plow profit from information. How else to explain the clearly disparate treatment given to companies such as Citigroup and General Motors?"

Now there are other ways to explain the disparate treatment of G.M. and Citigroup. Finance is different from manufacturing, and banks from auto companies. It may be that the case for a huge bank bailout was strong, and that the case for a more modest auto package is not. Still, it seems to me true that the financial big shots haven't been treated nearly as roughly in Congress or in the media as the auto executives, who have done nothing remotely as irresponsible as their Wall Street counterparts.

by Steve M 2008-12-19 09:17AM | 0 recs
Re: The Trouble With The Auto Bailout

I don't get the leap from "competitive" wages and work rules to "significantly less than".  Can you explain that leap to me?

by the mollusk 2008-12-19 09:24AM | 0 recs
Re: Unfunded pensions

The auto companies chose not to fund most of the costrs of pensions and retiree health benefits.  The costs would come from future revenues as require.  Well, nearly all of the difference between Toyota's costs and Detroit's are those pensions and health care benefits.  So to match the overall costs, Detroit would have to either reduce current pay to well below Toyoya rates (and Toyota is working on cutting their costs in half) or drastically take it to retirees.

Bush's Presidential pension is $191,300 plus goodies like staff and office space.  I am sure he did a lot worse job than most of the retired auto workers and he clearly spent less time at the job than they did.  The US government has a huge Bush deficit and no plan to get out of it.  Ever.  That's another precondition where he failed.  Why don't we, say, knock a $100,000 a year from W's pension and use that to reduce taxes?

by David Kowalski 2008-12-19 09:35AM | 0 recs
Re: Unfunded pensions

whatever...what the hell does this have to do with the subject at hand.....Fact is the wages and benefits of the Big 3 is way above what their competition who is trouncing them is providing, and their workers are happy and being paid fairly. You want to continue to pay wages above the competivie environment while the company tanks.....go ahead.....when the company tanks, there wont be any wages........

by adb67 2008-12-19 11:17AM | 0 recs
factually challenged

In that instance, Toyota Motor Corp. gave workers at its largest U.S. plant bonuses of $6,000 to $8,000, boosting the average pay at the Georgetown, KY, plant to the equivalent of $30 an hour. That compares with a $27 hourly average for UAW workers, most of whom did not receive profit-sharing checks last year. Toyota would not provide a U.S. average, but said its 7,000-worker Georgetown plant is representative of its U.S. operations.

Harley Shaiken, a professor at the University of California, Berkeley, who specializes in labor issues, said Toyota's high wages are somewhat expected.

"Toyota pays high wages in part to avoid the UAW," Shaiken said, adding that economists would refer to Toyota's high wages as the "union threat effect," meaning companies pay union-comparable wages to fend off organizing efforts and the risk of a strike.

"But what Toyota inadvertently shows," he added, "is that you can compete paying higher wages."

Assembly workers for Detroit automakers last year remained a bit ahead of Honda's U.S. hourly workers, who made an average $24.25 an hour, or $26.20 with the $4,485 bonus they received. In November, Honda paid bonuses for the 21st consecutive year, the longest streak in U.S. auto history, said Ed Miller, Honda spokesman.

Nissan workers are paid $24 an hour in Mississippi and $26 an hour in Tennessee, but company officials would not disclose employee bonuses.

Now what is the bullshit you are spouting...

by molly bloom 2008-12-19 01:13PM | 0 recs
Re: factually challenged

Its the long term benefist that are killing them. The pay being given to workers who arent working, the lifetime benefits being paid out that are killing them. The fact is the big 3 cant control benefit costs but are being forced to bear the brunt of by paying out lifetime benefits lock stock and barrel to retirees. They are paying benefits levels way above and beyond what the majority of major corporations are paying the average worker. Its benefits that are the biggest culprit. And yes combine that with wages that in some cases are beyond competitive levels and you have a recipe for disaster. Oh, and why on earth should these companies be forced to continue paying workers who dont have jobs anymore?  Its absurd......if you are naive enough to believe that this mess is only due to poor management decisions and not also due to the greed of the UAW, than your just being ignorant.

by adb67 2008-12-20 04:03AM | 0 recs

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