Preserve My Chairmanship Or Die!

I suppose it was inevitable that Joe Lieberman would take the fear-mongering he used against Obama in the general, which mirrored the Rovian "elect Republicans or die" strategy that worked so well for the GOP in 02 & 04, and use it in his campaign to keep his chairmanship of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.

Greg Sargent has a good catch from this Hartford Courant article:

"Sen. Lieberman prefers to remain in the Democratic caucus," the aide said. "However, he believes he should remain as chairman of the Homeland Security Committee. ... He thinks that political retribution should not go ahead of homeland security."

Funny, considering the man Lieberman supported for president advocated a foreign policy that has made us less secure at home and abroad. But as Sargent notes, it's just plain absurd for him to even suggest that just because he's chairman of the Homeland Security Committee that he is somehow our protector-in-chief.

Can the Lieberman camp really be arguing that stripping Lieberman of his committee slot is tantamount to putting politics ahead of our safety, because we're so defenseless without him there to protect us?

But looking at the larger issue of Lieberman's role in the Senate, we're getting some pretty clear signals that his leaving the Democratic caucus is not likely to happen, at least not by force. Even Sen. Reid today sounded a conciliatory note:

While he has opposed Democratic efforts to end the war in Iraq, "Joe Lieberman votes with me a lot more than a lot of my senators," Reid told CNN's "Late Edition."

"Joe Lieberman is not some right-wing nutcase," he said. "Joe Lieberman is one of the most progressive people ever to come from the state of Connecticut."

As did Sen. Dodd:

"What does Barack Obama want?" Dodd rhetorically asked reporters Friday in Hartford. "He's talked about reconciliation, healing, bringing people together. I don't think he'd necessarily want to spend the first month of this president-elect period, this transition period, talking about a Senate seat, particularly if someone is willing to come forward and is willing to be a member of your family in the caucus in that sense."

Fine, keep him in the caucus, it's not like caucusing with the Republicans makes sense for him on any level, but allowing him to keep his chairmanship is unacceptable.

What Josh said:

So Lieberman's entitled to his policy differences - but it's absolutely unacceptable for Joe to maintain oversight of a powerful committee with jurisdiction over the subject he used to attack Democrats.

Continue to put pressure on your Senators to oppose Lieberman's maintaining his chairmanship and sign the petition to the Senate Steering Committee to strip Lieberman of his chairmanship today.

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Re: Preserve My Chairmanship Or Die!

While Lieberman deserves punishment, I don't think we should go too hard on him. Obama won anyway, and if the Dems really want bipartisanship, they should let him go for now. If we want to keep a coalition, we need a big tent. He does usually vote with us

by Lakrosse 2008-11-09 02:55PM | 0 recs
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Did you miss the point of this? Most of us Lieberman haters do not even care who he caucuses with. If he wants to stay with the Democrats, fine. But it is insane to give him chairmanship of a committee when he has attacked many democrats on issues pertaining to that committee directly or indirectly. He has been an incompetent chair failing to investigate instances of negligence or mistakes by the Bush administration.

It is not just about retribution. It is about common sense. There is nothing in the rulebook saying that an non party guy get chairmanship of the committee. What happend in 2006 was a bargain made to get control of the senate. That deal is over now.

by Pravin 2008-11-09 03:44PM | 0 recs
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I'll be honest..., if the caucus is going to pussy out and not strip him of any chairmanship, then the ABSOLUTE minimum they can do is move him to another committee.  

There is NO WAY this judas should have the powers to limit Obama he will have if he remains in place.

by yitbos96bb 2008-11-09 05:26PM | 0 recs
Let's not forget

Leiberman called Obama's patriotism into question during the campaign.  He should be able to caucus with the Dems, but should not chair a committee.

by orestes 2008-11-09 08:18PM | 0 recs
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Take him off leadership and let him do what he wants to do. He's welcome in the party, and we should try to work with him as often as possible, but in leadership roles, I'd like someone that will be on board with what we want to do. And Lieberman simply cannot be trusted.

by vcalzone 2008-11-09 03:21PM | 0 recs
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Lieberman has already shown he will work against the party no matter what. Even while voting with us, he only spoke up on areas where he could work against us. So what reason is there to keep him on? What does he offer? In order for a threat to be credible, it has to be clear that there is some consequence involved.

We already KNOW he can't be trusted. What do we have to lose?

by vcalzone 2008-11-09 03:26PM | 0 recs
Just does not make sense

They will not give Clinton a sub-committee chairmanship, but they will give Liebermann a committee chairmanship. Talk about an old boys club.

by ann0nymous 2008-11-09 03:22PM | 0 recs
Re: Just does not make sense

The whole strict seniority thing in the senate is dumb. Seniority can be a factor, but not hte only factor.

by Pravin 2008-11-09 03:45PM | 0 recs
Lieberman has zero leverage

He knows he can't join the Republican caucus if he doesn't want his CT constituents rising up in revolt.  Plus, becoming a Republican at this time is sort of like getting traded from the New York Yankees to the worst team in the major leagues, the Washington Nationals.  

by ProfessorReo 2008-11-09 03:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Preserve My Chairmanship Or Die!

Kick Lieberman out of the caucus and take his chairmanship.  Do it NOW.

Lieberman commits treachery on a routine basis -- he did it to Bill Clinton during the Lewinsky investigation in 1998 and 1999, he did it to Al Gore when he tanked the Cheney debate and by giving away the 2000 recount, and he did it to Barack Obama by campaigning for McCain in 2007 and 2008.  Worse, he as much as called Obama a traitor and a terrorist after BEGGING Obama to campaign for him in his 2006 Senate reelection, something Obama was happy to do, even though Lieberman was not the Democratic nominee.

Why is Lieberman a treacherous prick?  Because there are never any negative consequences, and there are sometimes positive ones.

Reid says Lieberman is loyal on all issues but one, so we should be nice to him.  If Lieberman is REALLY in step with Reid on all issues except the Iraq war, well then, it shouldn't matter where Lieberman caucuses, or if he belongs to a caucus at all.

Lieberman needs to lose his committee chairmanships and he needs to be kicked out of the caucus, partly as punishment for his many past acts of disloyalty, and partly as a deterrent to any other Democratic Senator who considers similar treachery.

by 1st Republic 14th Star 2008-11-09 03:36PM | 0 recs
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What Reid needs to explain is if Lieberman is with us on all issues but one, why does he frequently bash Democrats while he has never bashed Republicans in recent times and even worse, he is on very good terms with right wing hosts like Hannity.

W@hat I do not understand is why are blogs like DKos and MYDD so powerless that we cannot read interviews by bloggers with these DEmocratic senators about this situation. Can you imagine Republican politicians blowing off right wing radio hosts on a similar topic? Blogs are the liberal equivalent of talk radio.

by Pravin 2008-11-09 03:48PM | 0 recs
Dodd is on his own

The next time Republicans attack Dodd related to some scandal(funny, Lieberman didnt come to his defense regarding that scandal in the primary), he is on his own. Let him twist in the wind. Why should we spend any effort defending wimps? Dodd has been spurned by Lieberman once during the CT General election. Lieberman never went to bat for Dodd when Republicans attacked him. Now Dodd is kissing Lieberman's ass. No wonder Democrats have trouble getting respect.

What killed the republicans wasnt their strong arm tactics. Nothing wrong with that. It was their incompetence and extreme ideology.

If any Democratic senators are reading this, you got an excellent chance to blackmail the party. If Lieberman can do it, you can do it too.

by Pravin 2008-11-09 03:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Preserve My Chairmanship Or Die!

What about spliting Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs into two committees and giving Lieberman the latter? They shouldn't even be together in the first place.

by Nathan Empsall 2008-11-09 03:55PM | 0 recs
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If we give him Gov't Affairs, he tie up the Obama administration in endless hearings and investigations for any kind of transgression, actual or imagined, by the WH or career staff.

Remember, Lieberman is the guy who voted to impeach Clinton for lying about a BJ and let Bush's actions go unquestioned.

by the mystical vortexes of sedona 2008-11-09 04:42PM | 0 recs
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I'm starting to think that if Joe Lieberman killed half of Harry Reid's family, Reid would send him a box of chocolates and a thank you card for not killing the other half.

How can the Democrats hope to win the respect of anyone when they don't even stand up for themselves against someone like Lieberman?

by Vetch 2008-11-09 04:45PM | 0 recs
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Reconciliation an dhealing come AFTER punishment.  EVERY good parent knows this.  And yes, I am calling liebermann a child because his actions are just like my 10 year old daughter...self-absorbed.  Except she is still learning to be an adult and he should damned well know better.

I woudl seriously consider letting the Senate go back to Republican hands if the Dems and Reid are so spineless as to let Liebermann's past antics go without consequence.

The worst in my book is a leader with no spine.  I can ONLY IMAGINE the dirt Joe has ont eh Senate leadership...maybe that is a good name for him, dirty Joe.

by Hammer1001 2008-11-09 04:45PM | 0 recs
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Hmm... I'm wondering if Joementum has more Senate markers than we thought.  

Pressure campaign has to be out there.    

I wonder if they are stupid enough to make this vote public....

by yitbos96bb 2008-11-09 05:24PM | 0 recs
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When you got people like Barbara Boxer who supposedly are outraged by the Bush administration conduct with respect to the War on Terror remain silent on Lieberman being chair of Homeland Security, do we really trust our democrats to put country first over friendship?

by Pravin 2008-11-09 07:33PM | 0 recs
Colin McEnroe on Lieberman

http://blogs.courant.com/colin_mcenroe_t o_wit/2008/11/what-he-did-for-love-1.htm l

Is there a way Jerome or someone interview a single Democratic party senator and chalenge them why many of the great points we bring up on MYDD are invalid when it comes to Lieberman?

The trouble is this: We can come up with very incisive diaries. But it is all for naught unless the Democratic politicians are forced to answer logically why our points are invalid. The problem is that we do not have any means of asking these politicians these questions. We are powerless. Not even DailyKos has been able to snag politicians and put them on the spot. We possess only a fraction of the power possessed by even the lowest rated right wing talk radio show host.

All these Kos conventions are useless until we have the power to talk to our reps via online chats or interviews.

by Pravin 2008-11-09 07:43PM | 0 recs
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I'll call my Democratic senator in a few minutes, and I signed the petition. Down with the Smurf!

by RunawayRose 2008-11-10 05:25AM | 0 recs
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by RunawayRose 2008-11-10 05:25AM | 0 recs
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Call Your Senators NOW

by dereau 2008-11-10 07:41AM | 0 recs

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