Home Depot Founder: Give Republican Or Get Shot

Well this is classy. Bernie Marcus, the founder and former CEO of Home Depot, warned other business owners about the risk of a big Dem majority (via Ari at Oxdown):

If a retailer has not gotten involved with this, if he has not spent money on this election, if he has not sent money to Norm Coleman and these other guys," Mr. Marcus said, apparently referring to Republican senators facing tough re-election fights, then those retailers "should be shot; should be thrown out of their goddamn jobs.

He's worried about card check, of course. The fight over the Employee Free Choice Act will be a brutal one. With the Begich win in Alaska last night, progressives moved another step closer to such monumental legislation.

Expect Republican panic.

Tags: EFCA, Election 08 (all tags)

Comments

41 Comments

Too f'ing bad....

Screw him and all the other big box retailers like him who hose their own employees.

by Daryl Northrop 2008-11-19 05:59AM | 0 recs
Re: Too f'ing bad....

I live down the street from the North American headquarters of Home Depot. The cheap broadcast radio around town is running a cut rate commercial that goes something like this.

"Jim Martin wants to take away your right to have a secret ballot. He's with the liberals! "

Its insane. They are sooo scared of fair wage, fair pay. They pay themselves 200 million dollars a year salary and if someone wants to get enough money to be able to feed their family and have a normal life, its katie-bar-the-door.

by Trey Rentz 2008-11-19 07:18AM | 0 recs
Speaking of hosing your employees

Isn't Home Despot well known for cruising in their restrooms?  It's the kind of place Larry Craig loves to shop!

by NM Ward Chair 2008-11-19 10:15AM | 0 recs
Give Republican Or Get Shot

I am very suspicious of card check legislation.  You do realize it takes away the private vote in forming a union, right?  Believe it or not there are nefarious union organizers out there who, when this legislation is passed, will hand these cards to employees and say "sign this to get more information."

At least with a vote the employee is very aware of what they are doing.

by Vox Populi 2008-11-19 06:00AM | 0 recs
Re: Give Republican Or Get Shot

You do realize it takes away the private vote in forming a union, right?

Actual, it doesn't. The Employee Free Choice Act preserves the choice of whether workers organize through a private vote or majority sign up. Hence the phrasing of "choice" in the name of the Act.

Disclosure: I proudly work for the SEIU.

by Matt Browner Hamlin 2008-11-19 06:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Give Republican Or Get Shot

The thresholds should be changed.  It should be lowered to have an election, and should be raised for 'card check' (something like 70% maybe?).  It should be a clear majority of employees wanting a union if there isn't going to be an election.

by Vox Populi 2008-11-19 06:32AM | 0 recs
Re: Give Republican Or Get Shot

The thresholds are changed.

Elections require a majority of employees voting.

Majority sign-up requires a majority of all employees.

The bar is higher for majority sign-up than for an election.

And again, it's still the workers choice which method is used.

by Matt Browner Hamlin 2008-11-19 07:10AM | 0 recs
not true at all

It allows for two ways of forming unions, which is exactly what happens now on a smaller scale.

The Employee Free Choice Act lets a majority of workers who want a union to get their union, something that they don't have now.  

If 30% of workers want to use a "secret ballot," they can do so.  If 51% say they definitely want a union, they can get their union, in a process called "majority sign-up."  More than 500,000 people have joined unions the latter way in the last 5 years.

This is about leveling the playing field for working people to help rebuild the middle class.

Here's what happens when workers try to form unions now:  

What the Employee Free Choice Act does prevent is an employer manipulating the flawed system to influence the election outcome.  When faced with organizing campaigns: 25 percent of employers illegally fire pro-union workers; 51 percent of employers illegally threaten to close down worksites if the union prevails; and, 34 percent of employers coerce workers into opposing the union with bribes and favoritism.

by Michael Whitney 2008-11-19 06:22AM | 0 recs
Re: not true at all

I'll preface this by saying I was a Teamster for two years and am a pro-union guy.  But I know for a fact that there are paid union organizers out there who will go to worksites, hand over organization cards to busy employees and say "sign this for more information."  Without realizing it, that employee is voting for a union when he or she may not want one.

I'm all for lowering the threshold for an election, but it will take some serious convincing to get me onboard with card check.

by Vox Populi 2008-11-19 06:28AM | 0 recs
there are also employers

who will fire and intimidate employees during the period between the 30% card check and the secret election.  Are you concerned about them as well?

by JJE 2008-11-19 06:32AM | 0 recs
Re: there are also employers

I am, and I think that the Justice Department should go after those employers who illegally fire or intimidate their employees.

by Vox Populi 2008-11-19 06:35AM | 0 recs
Well EFCA is not just card check

it also severely increases penalties against corporations which use illegal means to keep out a union.

by ClintoniteNoLonger4McCain 2008-11-19 06:54AM | 0 recs
Re: not true at all

If the playing field has to be inclined towards employers or employees, corporations or unions, I would much rather see it be inclined to those who start out disadvantaged; the workers not the owners.

The process of unionizing needs to be made as intrusion free and simple as possible.  Unionized workers just do so much better than nonunionized.

by mady 2008-11-19 07:01AM | 0 recs
Even this is ok with me

I'd prefer a corrupt union over a greedy corrupt corporation.

by ClintoniteNoLonger4McCain 2008-11-19 06:51AM | 0 recs
Why have either?

n/t

by Vox Populi 2008-11-19 06:55AM | 0 recs
Re: Even this is ok with me

I want to make that into a bumper sticker.

by Jess81 2008-11-19 07:00AM | 0 recs
And also
EFCA (and right to choose) is the primary reason why I voted for Obama.  
I much much preferred McCain on foreign policy issues, and McCain was quite good on the environment too.
by ClintoniteNoLonger4McCain 2008-11-19 06:53AM | 0 recs
Re: And also

Should I troll rate you for saying that, or does that only apply for my comment? lol

The important thing is I remain open to persuasion.  I think companies like Wal Mart are true evil and they should be unionized.  But I think there are other big box retailers who treat their employees well and the standard of living would likely decrease if they were represented by a union.

by Vox Populi 2008-11-19 06:57AM | 0 recs
Standard of living decreased by forming a union?

For a Voice of the People you certainly are ignorant.  Forming a union has never caused workers' standard of living to decrease AFAIK.  Never.  Wages and benefits always rise when workers can bargain collectively, even considering the paltry union dues that non-members are forced to pay in "union shop" states.

by NM Ward Chair 2008-11-19 10:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Give Republican Or Get Shot

Uprated to counter ratings abuse.  That is in no way a troll comment.

by Dreorg 2008-11-19 08:39AM | 0 recs
Re: Give Republican Or Get Shot

I appreciate it.

by Vox Populi 2008-11-19 08:55AM | 0 recs
Re: Home Depot Founder

Well of course a home-improvement company would want McCain to get elected.  Think about it.

by Steve M 2008-11-19 06:06AM | 0 recs
Re: Home Depot Founder

I was an assistant store manager for Home Depot for almost six years. Bernie left the company in 1999 because he was running it into the ground. He's got nothing to do with the current company, at all.

by ragekage 2008-11-19 08:31AM | 0 recs
Re: Home Depot Founder: Give Republican Or Get Sho

Forget Employee Free Choice Act. The Democratic Party is now pro-business and anti-union. Look at all the Clintonistas in charge. Clinton could have done this in 1992. Besides, the Republicans will say,"boo", and Reid and Pelosi will go running to surrender.

by antiHyde 2008-11-19 06:08AM | 0 recs
Onion: Bush Calls for Panic

"For those of you who have remained resolute in your belief that things will turn around eventually, I urge you to close your eyes, take shallow rapid breaths, and begin freaking out immediately," Bush added. "At this point, anyone who isn't scared to death needs to wake the fuck up--because we're screwed here."

The president then picked up the telephone from his desk and hurled it through the Oval Office window.

Link.

by RT 2008-11-19 06:11AM | 0 recs
thanks for the note!

I'll be off to Lowe's Home Inprovement now.

by candideinnc 2008-11-19 06:14AM | 0 recs
Re: thanks for the note!

Me too.

Another reason to call it "Home Despot".

by Jess81 2008-11-19 07:04AM | 0 recs
And me.

Why not drop a line to your local home depot management while you're at it, explaining why.

by Sumo Vita 2008-11-19 07:52AM | 0 recs
Same for me

I only shop at HD if what I need can't be found anywhere else, and that's maybe once a year. The rest of the time it's Lowe's or the internets.

by Spiffarino 2008-11-19 10:30AM | 0 recs
Re: thanks for the note!

Guys, again, they don't even own any Home Depot stock anymore! Jesus Christ with the knee-jerk reactions. Chill out.

by ragekage 2008-11-19 08:32AM | 0 recs
Poor guy

I'm having a really hard time feeling bad for Mr. 2,000+ Store Locations right now.  I do feel a little bad for his employees, however.

by Dracomicron 2008-11-19 06:19AM | 0 recs
Blatant display of my own ignorance.

What in the hell is card check?  And what is the Employee Something Something Something Act proposed to be all about?

It seems like shitloads of people like them and shitloads hate them.  But shitloads of us have little to no idea what they are either.

by SuperCameron 2008-11-19 06:57AM | 0 recs
Re: Home Depot Founder: Get Shot

This is the next big issue after the election.  Everyone needs to get educated and organized about this, and support it (if you're for it, obviously).

I fully expect to lose though: when the chips are down, Democrats have to be dragged kicking and screaming before they'll support workers.  But at least they can be dragged.

by Jess81 2008-11-19 07:03AM | 0 recs
Lowe's

I've always supported Jimmy Johnson over Tony Stewart anyway...

by gil44 2008-11-19 07:03AM | 0 recs
Re: Home Depot: Give Republican Or Get Shot

I find it really disturbing that in the comments section of a post about the CEO of WalMart threatening to bully, beat, and kill CEOs who don't give to a specific Republican Senate campaign - the main area under debate is whether we should pass majority sign-up and the Employee Free Choice Act.

by Matt Browner Hamlin 2008-11-19 07:18AM | 0 recs
Re: Home Depot: Give Republican Or Get Shot

wrote Wal-Mart, meant Home Depot...

by Matt Browner Hamlin 2008-11-19 07:22AM | 0 recs
Re: Home Depot: Give Republican Or Get Shot

He isn't the CEO anymore, he retired in 2002.

by skohayes 2008-11-19 11:42AM | 0 recs
Great let the unions

Do to retail what they did to Detroit.

Tell us, why is the automotive sector doing so well in AL?  MS?  SC?  NC?  Why are there so many happy workers and productive plants in the south?

by RichardFlatts 2008-11-19 07:52AM | 0 recs
What the unions did to Detroit

Was make manufacturing jobs pay decent wages and benefits.  It's not the unions' fault that the big 3 built lousy gas-guzzlers that were hard to sell when gas prices skyrocketed.  It's also not the unions' fault that foreign companies sheltered in "Right to screw your employees over" states don't have to pay pensions or health care for their retirees.  That's Congress' fault!  The EFCA will help level the playing field.  So will universal health care.

As to "happy workers" and "productive plants," the plants are decades newer, and the workers would be happier with job security, better pay, and benefits.  The workers are also just happy to have a job, because without a union, the bosses can fire them any time they please.

by NM Ward Chair 2008-11-19 10:29AM | 0 recs
Re: Great let the unions

"why is the automotive sector doing so well in AL?  MS?  SC?  NC?"

Because japanese automakers didn't put all their eggs in SUVs.  

The market share of the big three has been falling consistently for the past few years.  I'm quite sure that has nothing to do with unions.

by Jess81 2008-11-21 11:29AM | 0 recs
What is the political

leanings and social leaning of Lowes?

I prefer to shop at McLendon Hardware but there are a Lowes and a home depot 10 min from my house and McLendon's is about 20 to 30 min away.

http://www.mclendons.com/

by kevin22262 2008-11-19 08:03AM | 0 recs

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