Oh and Biden saying Obama wanted more oversight as a priority in the bill was a joke. The DEmocrats got nothing of note  accompllished in that respect with the bill.

Take a breath, Joe.

No pause for punctuation, and people stop listeningtoonelongparagraphinamonotone.

Palin is also looking us in the eye, Joe was mumbling and looking down.

Frankly, Palin is more listenable at this point -- Joe seemed dismissive of the topic.

Joe is looking down and at Gwen, which reads as not being able to look the audience in the eye.

Palin has learned the trick of looking into the camera.

She lies well.

She is WIRED!!!

Nothing  but talking points from Governor Palin.

Damn how many redbulls did Palin have today?

she is totally wired.

Not watching, at work and mobile in my ambulance, but it sounds like as long as Joe keeps looking at Gwen instad of into the camera, and Sarah doesn't stick her finger in her nose, she'll be declared 'the winner' by pundits because she showed up and didn't pick her nose.

And she's prettier than Joe.

More slogans which will play well in quick cuts on the tee vee.

hecka

Joe look into the fucking camera! Look at your audience!

Has it been set up so that Joe looks to the left and down, while Palin seems to look us in the eye.

darn right, a noun, a verb, hockey mom

This debate doesn't matter. Obama's got this one wrapped up. Look at the numbers.

Joe scores: "She did not answer the question"

Okay, now Joe is on a roll: no new taxes for 96% of American people.

Looking into camera, opening his eyes.

Palin lying really, really well.

... saying "government -- you're the problem."  WTF?!?!  Obviously my drinking game isn't proactive enough.

Sounds like ....ignoring the questions altogether is a planned line of defense by the McCain camp.  They laid the groundwork to discredit the moderator as biased, now they have the ability to make this into a non paid infomercial.

I hope Biden explains how McCain's 5000 bucks won't buy a families healthcare for 6 months.

Two Major League Baseball Playoff Games going on, is anybody watching?

"John McCain has a detailed health care plan..."

"And let me give you some of those details."

Jesus.  This reminds me of myself as a high school debater.

"Ultimate bridge to nowhere."   Burned!

playing Biden even according to the CNN trackers.

I think Biden hurt them on health care taxes.

I thought that Obama said that one thing they would have to delay would be the energy plan.  Isn't Biden saying the opposite?

I noticd that when she attacks Obama, people's dials go down.

..but I haven't promised anything...

Seriously...I'm going to throw up

Sweet Jesus I can not stand her.

She is by far more annoying than Dubya.

Joe is waaaaaaay to inside baseball.

John knows details that she could never remember in a million years directly because of his experience.

Joe is warming up...

She keeps saying stuff that makes is seem she is brand new at this...

That's not strong.

"More and more revelation revealed to Americans..."

Is this a dog-whistle reference to Alaska as a refuge state during the end times?

She's only got three talking points: reform, maverick and being vigilant.

She sounds like she's about to say "..and the five day forecast coming up".

Women for Biden. Not surprised.

Although, it's apparently she's been doing some cramming.

Here eyes are beet red too. No doubt she comes off as confident, but it's very clear she's just reciting.

He needs to slow down...

She is rambling, trying to keep talking about
Energy...

Is it me, or is Biden doing better among women than Palin (I'm watching CNN).

Oh, shit!  She got to the last page of her talking points, so her only remaining response is "energy"!

Ooh, Joe should ask her how much oil Alaska sells overseas.

Why do the men's gage go down on CNN when the women's go up when Biden talks?  Isn't Joe pretty enough?

"Not one to attribute every activity of man to changes in the climate."

Fuck yeah!  She did it again!

She really just hacked that climate change statement....

If men are digging her, it must be her hair and lips cause she is not making too much sense now...

If man isn't having an effect on climate change, why do we need to "clean up this planet?"

I can't believe they loaded her with that one.  I have no idea what the logic is...

Oh god, she did it, she said "drill baby drill".

She is doing about as well as I thought she would.

I never thought she would be Tina Fey...this form is better for her, where she can ramble as fast as possible.

I prefer fact filled rambling to non fact filled rambling.  

Biden just say that global warming is man made, absolutely man made, we know it. We do? can he produce the irrefutable evidence supporting the concept that global warming is man made? No he cannot, becuase there is no irrefuable evidence. COudl we be contributing to? Yes, but is it the direct cause? No it is not......hate to say it, but he just made a foolish statement.

The intraders think she's doing well... what's the inside scoop from the folks here with digital CNN?

Tiny footprints on land? Does she forget her state was the recipient of the biggest oil spill in history??

Wondering if the Americans will buy it

Prices are set by supply and demand.. Unless there is some kind of government SUBSIDY..

China and India's consumption is up, Europe's consumption is up.. that drives prices up.

The ONLY way to reduce oil prices is to REDUCE CONSUMPTION...

Palin knows that, but she wont admit it..

fine line on same sex benefits, but it's about time they finally showed some balls with this issue.  flat lined though with genders.

She has a wide variety of friends?

Some of my best friends are....

if you have to say you're tolerant, you probably aren't.  also, the traditional form of marriage wasn't always one man one woman.  it was one man many women, or one man one girl, or one man, one woman considered property.

foriegn policy.... hm.  

gay marriage is immoral end of discussion

God I wish Dems running for national office would just get some fucking balls on this issue.  Stand up, people.

What the hell just happened on gay marriage there?  Did she just surrender?

Did you see her run away from that last question?

OH lord, war talking points. Can't she just answer a question?

all due respect, i didn't hear a plan.  awesome.

Adults can choose their partners, unless it threatens "traditional marriage: one man and one woman."

Uh, you fundies are the only ones threatened, Sarah.

Biden may not support gay marriage, or rather, folks can call their own marriages what they like, but he at least is for granting complete civil rights, which Palin skirts, of course.

The Surge?

White Flag?  

What is she ranting about?

biden's mouth coming back to haunt him, oy.

ooh, she's mad now, y'all look out!

the problem with Biden is that he is stiff....no personality....all she has to do is hold her won and not screw up while he blabbers on and on...

Biden needs to grab this and run...

White flag of surrender -- you bitch!

I gasped.

Forget when the Iraqi's want us gone, it's not until our army commanders give the call to leave -- which of course they can't, without the commander in chief, or Congress' say so.

joebama mama reference!

Wow Biden goes right off the meter when he talks foreign policy.

And all she can do is repeat talking points.

Petraeus is the decider of Foreign Policy?

The Castro Brothers..

Somebody prepped her for this talking point...

She said nukular.

She's just repeating, word for word, what McCain said in the debate!

I'm sick, I really am.  This woman should not be allowed within 1000 miles of the white house.

She is very weak here....

It's hard work!

Sheesh...she sounds like Bush?

Sarah: Same old, same old talking points, the ones the ditto heads repeat on threads.

To this day -- ya'd think they never had an independent thought in their lives "We are the Borg."

She lets Palin talk off topic on multiple occasions. When Biden broaches one topic, Palin talks about whatever the fuck she wants. And ifill jsut moves on to the next topic. I would rather see one less topic discussed if it means getting the right answer on the prior one.

Looking backwards? Hello, George is still president!

she doesn't believe the administration is a failure?  blame game?  the only people that don't like the blame game are the ones who are having the fingers pointed at them!

What is she talking about.

Talk about change? Finger pointing?

This is foriegn policy?

This is polemic.

Maverick...God almighty...

We have the quote of the night:

PALIN: "It's a toxic mess on Mainstreet that's affecting Wallstreet."

Hah!  Totally blindsided!  She had no prepared text for this, so she was hosed.

Palin will be declared as the big winner of tonight's debate, if she keeps avoiding making a major gaffe.. She came in with low expectations and his holding her own against Biden. Also, Biden is coming off as being angry.

Wish I could ask her if she is such a supporter of Israel why she quoted anti-Semite Westbrook Pegler in her acceptance speech.

Oh good, she's talking compete gibberish again.  She fumbled the nuclear trigger question.

ps and I love the photo of her sitting at her desk reading the John Birch Society.

Biden is STILL dominating this part...

She switched to Afganhastan, she spanked her.

Wow, I'm a washington outsider...

Like me....She is STILL not on her feet..

She's somehow allowed to be a sarcastic bitch, while Biden could never get away with the same level of rudeness.  

Good Lord, the Republicans sound like they are running as Democrats on foreign policy.  We are being lied to, methinks.

She is praying this gets off Foriegn Policy soon....

She is out of bullets...

He knows how to win a war? How?

The Pundits will check in the morning...

Wow, that was incredibly weak?

  She is so contemptuous: "You (Biden) can say what you want to say."  Joe appreciates your permission, Sarah.

I keep hearing that John McCain knows how to win a war.  Which war did he win again?

She winked at the camera- can't you just see her giving a SOTU address?

If she were winking at me like that on the street, I'd smack her.

OH MY GOD!!!  Quit talking like an idiot!!

There you go again- she's been waiting all night to say that.

Biden is still winning...

Pointing backwards??

Man, she is BAD at delivering the talking points....

Tell me that those male graphs on CNN are now
rating her down...

Shout out?  

She is awful

Hey anyone notice how Joe is finishing his comments unexpectedly and then turning to Palin immediately?

She keeps getting thrown off guard and comes off as nervous.

This "ah shucks" bs won't fly anymore .... that ship has sailed.

GIVE HER HELL JOE!

someone shoot me! She is soooooo not ready for prime time!

She acts like a day care teacher!

She is NOT "charming" she is friggin stupid!

uh oh, she agrees with Cheney??

Redundancy...is redundant

She totally dodged the executive/legisative VP question.

Joe didn't

Wow, this debate failed for the most part to expose Palin's lack of knowledge because Ifill's priority was to keep moving even when Palin refused to answer questions at times and would stick to her talking points on whateveer topic enters her mind lest she forgets to mention them later on.

Even Katie Freaking Couric asked better questions. All ifill did was move on quickly enough to enable Palin to move on to the next talking point.

Biden smacked her on the VP.....

Oil and Gas regulator?  

Accounting for much progress?  

Her connection to the heartland?

OMG!!!!!

Biden smacked her on the VP.....

Oil and Gas regulator?  

Accounting for much progress?  

Her connection to the heartland?

OMG!!!!!

Blatantly steals Joe's kitchen table.

Yes, but what is your Achilles heel, Sarah?

GO JOE!!!

cripes, if she says maverick one more time, I'm going to scream...

Whoa, Joe just won the debate using a personal story.  

Boom.

The question is not whether Barack Obama will win, the question will be by how much..

just chock up a bit when mentioning his son almost dieing?

Joe jumps on the maverick meme! GO JOE!

She's acting like she and McCain are running as independents?  Mainstream Republicans must be squirming.

He's slamming the maverick thing right back at her....

had to live with her and listen to her everyday, I think I would have a blody forehead from BANGING my head on the wall!

   Did Palin just start talking about appointment power?  She has NO credibility on that issue.

The Filter of the Main Stream Media?

She just tried to excuse her drubbing from Kati Courcic...

For all that she didn't have any gaffes, and didn't fall off her heels, I would be hard pressed to say she won this debate.

Compared to her interviews she has acquitted herself reasonably well but to Biden's credit he still makes her look like an incredible lightweight by comparison.  On the issue of credibility as potential commander-in-chief she really hasn't shifted the perception that she is unqualified.

Her Mom and apple pie stuff just doesn't fly, whereas Biden's poise and character is tangible, whether you agree with him on policy or not.

I guess I'll have to switch over to a cable news channel and hear what the pundits are saying...yuck.

Biden blew Palin away in the final comment segment. Palin's answer was pure McCain cheerleading while Bidens was a well reasoned, and thoughtful, addressing the specific needs of a majority of Americans.

Good ending, Joe.

Wasted opportunity. Kind of a boring safe debate with Palin ducking many followups. How the hell did Ifill let her talk about taxes and energy when the topic was something else?

ifill should have asked her about how she can keep saying country first when she has made fun of east coast elites and her husband was in the Alaska Independent Party at one time.

She'll make a great one-term govermor of AK.

Well, not Great great.

Biden did a good job at  not being condescending, Palin not so much.