The election nears

(From the browse, some weekend election notes on the presidential race below).

A heck of a crowd-builder start for Obama in Missouri: 100K in the morning in St Louis and 75K in the evening in Kansas City. At the Gateway Arch, it was the largest crowd ever to hear Obama in the US. Wow is right. Where does he top that?

Charles Lemos has 4 election scenarios, which I pretty much concur with as far as scenarios go. The most likely is that Obama wins 26 states plus DC for 329 EV's to McCain's 209. By any measure, that's a blowout. A landslide for Obama would include adding the states of OH, NC, IN, WV, ND, and MT. A run of the table that would give Obama 386 EV's and 32 states. If you wanted to imagine a scenario of Obama getting over 400 EV's, it would probably mean adding GA's 15 EV's, for 33 states and 401 for Obama vs McCain's 137 EV's.

You gotta stretch to figure out how its possible for McCain to get above 270 EV's, but the path is remotely possible. First, by running the table on nearly all the toss-up red states. That would include winning the states where Obama leads by high single-digits in CO, and VA; leads by low single-digts in MO, NV, FL and NC, and takes Ohio (Ambinder sees this 'royal flush' as a possibility, still). Or, McCain manages to win in PA, and that allows him to lose CO & VA, where Obama seems pretty sure to win. But for McCain to win in PA (which does vote entirely on Nov 4th), it would take a big shake-up event to happen in the next couple of weeks. Otherwise, it's over.

In NC, people are voting big. The first two days of early voting are done, and it favors Obama. On the first day, it was 114,000 first-day voters, 64% Democrat, 21% Republican and 15% unaffiliated. On the second day, it was 100,000, so up to 214,000 voting early thus far, and 62% Democrat, 22% Republican, and 16% unaffiliated. Early voting in NC continues through Nov 1st. About 46% of all registered voters in the state are Democrats, and 32% Republican. This is going to be a good indicator to see how big a margin of early voters the Democrats can maintain in the state.

September fundraising for for Obama was over $150M (including a couple of hundred from yo). Amazing. There should be no doubt now, that his not accepting public financing was the right decision. From the looks of it, McCain has spent about $44M through Oct 12th, leaving him with, at most, about $10M a week to spend through the election. Obama spent $6.5M last Sunday alone, and over $32M that previous week. It's a 3:1 advantage for Obama. The RNC put in $6M that week, lessening it to a 2:1 advantage. Obama in 17 states, McCain in 14 states.

TIPP was a phenomenal pollster in '04, getting the margin spot-on. They've got a lot of undecideds in their recent poll, showing Obama up by 7 percent (47-40-13). The movement from to Obama & Unsure, since their first tracking poll release on the 12th, can be directly correlated to Obama pulling up among black/latino middle-income (44-75K) voters, and McCain losing support among whites. Obama picks up 2.4% among black/latino voters, and McCain loses 2% of mostly white voters, and Obama sticks at the same among white voters (Obama 40, McCain 46, Unsure 13) over the 6 day period, but look, if Obama has 40% of the white vote, he probably just needs about 2% more of it to win the national popular vote (Kerry got 41% in '04).

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the Obama field operation

is unlike anything anyone's ever put together. He wouldn't have it if he were stuck with public financing and what the state parties could raise for GOTV efforts.

McCain has basically no field in PA. I cannot imagine how he comes from behind to win there. So he would need to overtake Obama in CO, VA, and many states where Obama leads narrowly.

Can McCain do that with dozens of Obama field offices turning out the voters they've spent the past few months identifying? I am skeptical.

I expect Obama to overperform his poll numbers in some key states, especially states like NC and VA where he has a heavy GOTV presence and Kerry did not compete. AA turnout is going to be through the roof in those states.

by desmoinesdem 2008-10-19 04:27AM | 0 recs
Re: the Obama field operation

I think we are all pretty much in agreement for the future... NO DEM EVER accepts public financing again in the GE... unless the country goes to a 100% publically financed election... no outside ads or donors at all allowed.

by yitbos96bb 2008-10-19 11:45AM | 0 recs
Re: The election nears

Did TIPP show much movement in the last two weeks of 04, or are the dynamics pretty much set now, Jerome?

by brit 2008-10-19 04:28AM | 0 recs
Re: The election nears

Not sure about TIPP itself (I don't think they ran a daily track in 2004,) but here is how the national polls went from 9/1 through 11/1 in that year:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/bush_vs _kerry.html

Overall the race was very stable over the last month before the 2004 election, although there was a slight tightening towards Kerry in that last week.  Alas, it was not enough.  

by devilrays 2008-10-19 06:08AM | 0 recs
They did run a daily track in 04

That is the poll Jerome refers to, the one that was spot on with the margin (although not the actual numbers, where Rasmussen and Pew did better).

by Davidsfr 2008-10-19 07:01AM | 0 recs
moreso

TIPP was pretty fluid in 04:  

TIPP        10/21       45       45
TIPP        10/24       48       41
TIPP        10/26       47       43
TIPP        10/28       45       45
TIPP        10/30       47       42
TIPP        10/31       45       44  
TIPP        11/1       47       44

by Jerome Armstrong 2008-10-19 07:30AM | 0 recs
Re: The election nears

I will say this after being with this site since the beginning, in 2002, and listening to all the poo-pooing during the primary. It is nice to see Jerome acknowledge what is likely going to be reality in two weeks.

That Obama wil receive more votes for President than anyone else in the history of the US and will receive a larger % of the vote than any Democrat since LBJ.

by southerndemnut 2008-10-19 04:34AM | 0 recs
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Actually, the change of heart worries me.

Sort of like when Jimmy the Greek picked your team to win on Sunday.

"Uh oh."

by Bush Bites 2008-10-19 08:06AM | 0 recs
Re: The election nears

Or they end up on the cover of Sports Illustrated... or your favorite player is the Madden Cover Boy.

by yitbos96bb 2008-10-19 11:46AM | 0 recs
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Hey, Favre hasn't gotten hurt.  So far.  Either way, one of the streaks (Madden or Favre's starting streak) will end this year.  

Or Favre will just suck.  That counts too.

by ProgressiveDL 2008-10-19 05:41PM | 0 recs
Good Summary Analysis

Thanks!

by cmpnwtr 2008-10-19 05:00AM | 0 recs
Powell to endorse

According to CNN breaking news, Powell will say that he is voting for Obama.

by gavoter 2008-10-19 05:17AM | 0 recs
Huge news

This is devastating for McCain if true.

We here in the progressive blogosphere poo-poo Colin Powell for the UN speech. But in "middle America" and among non-extremist Republicans, Colin Powell is one of the most highly respected men in the country.

I was talking to a conservative Republican McCain supporter yesterday about this. She's a single issue voter - abortion - and confesses that she "likes" Obama but couldn't vote for a pro-choice candidate. That said, she said a Powell endorsement would be a big deal because she really likes Powell a lot. She won't switch her vote because the abortion issue is too big for her (very evangelical and pro-life) but she thinks it would sway a lot of other people.

I asked her if it would be rejected as "Powell just voting for another black guy" and she thought the notion ridiculous. Powell is the most popular black public figure in Republican circles. More than Condi Rice. More than wingnuts like Alan Keyes.

by elrod 2008-10-19 05:29AM | 0 recs
Penna is out of reach for McCain

Here's the scenarios I can concoct that have McCain winning the Electoral College.

McCain needs to win Ohio. He'll need to flip Minnesota. He needs Florida. And he needs to run the table on these battleground states: Nevada, Missouri, Indiana, New Hampshire and North Carolina.

But that's still not enough. On top of all these he'd have to flip Colorado or Virginia.

McCain might get lucky on some of this, but the Obama campaign has the resources to fight everywhere.

Obama will probably be able to spend the last week helping Democrats running for key governor races (Washington, Indiana, Missouri & North Carolina) and Senate races (Alaska, Kentucky, Georgia, Mississippi, Texas and Nebraska).

by Carl Nyberg 2008-10-19 06:22AM | 0 recs
There is no early voting in PA

Hence the effort by McCain there. It is very hard to flip a state when a large portion of the vote has been cast by election day.

by Davidsfr 2008-10-19 07:11AM | 0 recs
Re: There is no early voting in PA

Which makes me very optimistic for Ohio, Florida, NC and maybe Georgia.

by yitbos96bb 2008-10-19 11:47AM | 0 recs
by Vox Populi 2008-10-19 06:37AM | 0 recs
Re: The election nears

Flipping states like PA, CO, NM, IA, VA, and even FL might be hard for McCain to do at this point. Most people have made up their minds and/or have cast early ballots. McCain spent the entire summer taking states like VA for granted. His GOTV operations in these states pale in comparison to Obama's, and it's the boots on the ground that gin up enthusiasm and get people to the polls. I also haven't seen any McCain ads, at least not here in northern VA, so his dwindling funds will not be enough to wage a tough fight.  

by Steve24 2008-10-19 07:23AM | 0 recs
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Of course it's possible that MCain can pull a Royal Flush, much the same way people said in 1988 and 1992 that Dukakis and Bush 1.0 could pull an Inside Straight. But Kerry, Gore, Dole Bush and Dukakis all had one thing in common: A sinlge path to winning, and Gore was the only one who did it (minus the theft).

by RandyMI 2008-10-19 08:48AM | 0 recs
Virginia

Every day that passes gives me a stronger sense that VA is almost locked down. Yesterday's bonehead remark about the "real Virginia" by the McCain campaign confirmed it. I would noy be shocked if Obama wins VA and McCain argues that he should get the electoral votes because NOVA doesn't count. LOL

by RandyMI 2008-10-19 08:52AM | 0 recs
Re: The election nears

I just hope that everyone gets out and votes...the possibility of voter irregularities and suppression will be diminished with an overwhelming turnout.  The last two elections have been irregular and I for one don't want to see it happen this time.  The polls are looking good...but I'm still nervous.

by neechi 2008-10-19 10:55AM | 0 recs
Re: The election nears

$150 million dollars.  That number is so unreal... hell I was just hoping he hit $100 mill... and he bested that by 50%.  Guess we know WHY he is buying the network time.

by yitbos96bb 2008-10-19 11:51AM | 0 recs
Lemos seems to have forgotten

that Iowa was a Bush state in 2004, but otherwise it's an interesting read.

I don't agree with him though that flipping PA is a more likely route to victory for McCain than holding onto the Bush states minus NM and IA. Clearly this was a scenario that the McCain campaign invested heavily in (literally) but the polling suggests that PA has been one of the states with the most dramatic pro-Obama swings in reaction to the economic meltdown - Obama seems to be somewhere between 10 and 15 points ahead now, and I find it very hard to see how McCain can recover a deficit of that magnitude.

So it looks to me as if McCain's only vaguely realistic route to victory is to hold the line in the Bush states. That, though, will be a monumental task. OH, MO and NC I could believe, but NV, FL, CO and VA all look really tough for him.

Meanwhile Politico is reporting that the Obama campaign has bought up advertising in central WV and is sending Biden there this Friday. WV isn't even a second-tier target, so to be making such a big push there so late in the game suggests to me that they are VERY confident - they must be seeing some excellent internal polling in the other swing states, not just in WV.

It's clear now that McCain had little or no bounce from the final debate and remains around 5-7 points behind nationally. Barring a live boy/dead girl level scandal or a major terror attack or other huge event I just can't see anything shaking the race back towards McCain. I'd be very surprised if Obama gets below 300 EV and 360+ looks a very real possibility.

by al1 2008-10-19 02:48PM | 0 recs
I asked this in the tracking thread

But I thought I'd ask it here as well. What do you make of the numbers in the TIPP poll giving McCain a substantial lead among 18-24 year old voters? What is causing that, and is it affecting their numbers?

by vcalzone 2008-10-19 04:32PM | 0 recs
Re: The election nears

In light of McCain's gambling tendencies, instead of a Royal Flush, it's more like 3 consecutive Hard Eights.

by ProgressiveDL 2008-10-19 05:43PM | 0 recs
Re: The election nears

What happening with the 18-24 vote in the TIPP polling data? For the last three days it has flipped to pro-McCain. Something's not right.

by bamboo 2008-10-19 09:07PM | 0 recs
Re: The election nears

The real issue is not how well Obama or McCain might do state-by-state, but that we shouldn't have battleground states and spectator states in the first place. Every vote in every state should be politically relevant in a presidential election. And, every vote should be equal. We should have a national popular vote for President in which the White House goes to the candidate who gets the most popular votes in all 50 states.

The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC). The bill would take effect only when enacted, in identical form, by states possessing a majority of the electoral vote -- that is, enough electoral votes to elect a President (270 of 538). When the bill comes into effect, all the electoral votes from those states would be awarded to the presidential candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC).

Because of state-by-state enacted rules for winner-take-all awarding of their electoral votes, recent candidates with limited funds have concentrated their attention on a handful of closely divided "battleground" states. In 2004 two-thirds of the visits and money were focused in just six states; 88% on 9 states, and 99% of the money went to just 16 states. Two-thirds of the states and people have been merely spectators to the presidential election.

Another shortcoming of the current system is that a candidate can win the Presidency without winning the most popular votes nationwide.

The National Popular Vote bill has passed 21 state legislative chambers, including one house in Arkansas, Colorado, Maine, North Carolina, and Washington, and both houses in California, Hawaii, Illinois, New Jersey, Maryland, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Vermont. The bill has been enacted by Hawaii, Illinois, New Jersey, and Maryland. These four states possess 50 electoral votes-- 19% of the 270 necessary to bring the law into effect.

See http://www.NationalPopularVote.com  

by mvymvy 2008-10-20 12:45PM | 0 recs

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