Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Caroline Kennedy-Schlossberg isn't the only member of her family backing Barack Obama:

Senator Edward M. Kennedy will endorse Barack Obama for president tomorrow, breaking his year-long neutrality to send a powerful signal of where the legendary Massachusetts Democrat sees the party going -- and who he thinks is best to lead it.

Kennedy confidantes told the Globe today that the Bay State's senior senator will appear with Obama and Kennedy's niece, Caroline Kennedy, at a morning rally at American University in Washington tomorrow to announce his support.

That will be a potentially significant boost for Obama as he heads into a series of critical primaries on Super Tuesday, Feb. 5.

Obama has been getting significant support from red state Democrats in recent weeks -- Missouri Senator Claire McCaskill, Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano, and South Dakota Senator Tim Johnson, to name a few -- but this is about as big a blue state endorsement as one can get. Kennedy's support was definitely key to John Kerry's success in 2004. While the math is certainly different now than it was during the last nominating process, one would have to imagine that receiving robust support from the Kennedy clan, and Ted Kennedy in particular, could help open up some important liberal establishment support for Obama at a time when a late infusion of cash and progressive support could still make a major difference ahead of February 5. Kennedy's support could also help sway some superdelegates to the Obama camp.

This doesn't upend everything. But it certainly is a big pick up for Obama.

Tags: Barack Obama, Democratic primaries, Endorsements, Ted Kennedy (all tags)

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129 Comments

Hilly will have to campaign in Mass.
If she wants to win it.
Kennedy, Kerry and Patrick have endorsed Obama.
by parahammer 2008-01-27 08:01AM | 0 recs
Re: Hilly will have to campaign in Mass.

We should be seeing a turnabout in the polls which had Hillary leading Obama in MA by over thirty points. I do believe the liberal people of MA will see through this fiasco: the Bill and Hillary show trying to sell us another eight years of Republican Lite, corporate welfare, and downsizing of government, i.e., the basic liberal-socialist programs that permitted our government to create a safety net and bring all people into the economic system.

Bill and Hillary are the rich folks' Democrats. Maybe they think they can turn up the stock market again and really help their friends: in 1998, the top 10% of families in America owned 85% of the stock market and 90% of all business assets (Edward Wolfe, economist, NYU). Since the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, I am certain those figures have gone up to 90 and 95%, respectively. The Bill and Hillary Show get a lot of campaign financing for that reason. But Democrats? They stopped being Democrats some time ago, when Bill decided that the country moved right along with Reagan. And let's not even talk about foreign policy.

by shergald 2008-01-27 11:04AM | 0 recs
Re: Hilly will have to campaign in Mass.

you talk like a republican

by Scope441 2008-01-27 05:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Outstanding news.

by Socks The Cat 2008-01-27 08:02AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Congratulations to Obama. Good endorsement!

by lonnette33 2008-01-27 08:05AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Is it really? How many Obama posters here would change their vote to Clinton if Kennedy endorsed her. Candidates collect these like strings of beads but unless they come with an organization they aren't really worth much. The most recent poll I've see out of MA has Clinton ahead over 30%. Are these folks going to turn on a dime because Ted says so. And I'd say just the same if he was endorsing Clinton. Most of these endorsements merely serve to reinforce the beliefs of the already converted.  

by ottovbvs 2008-01-27 08:05AM | 0 recs
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She was way ahead in SC not that long ago.
Things change.
by parahammer 2008-01-27 08:06AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Parahammer it must have been apparent for at least sixty days to even the most committed that she had no chance of winning SC. I figured it out about forty days ago and I'm sure Clinton's campaign beat me to it. In fact I'm sure they were wargaming this scenario months ago. The hip shooting and Pavlovian reaction that goes on here and in the media is very strange. It does rather confirm Foreigner's views of us.  

by ottovbvs 2008-01-27 08:12AM | 0 recs
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You figured it out when she was ahead by double digits in some polls (40 days ago)? Nice, good to know that you had so little confidence in your candidate.

by JewishJake 2008-01-27 08:20AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

She started to head south in SC polls in late November according to RCP.  Don't believe me if want but you can go over to RCP and check the record. And I can't believe that the professionals in Clintons's campaign had not been studying polls for years back. Do you think these people rely on what comes out of Rassmussen.

by ottovbvs 2008-01-27 08:25AM | 0 recs
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40 days ago...as in before Iowa? As in before any primary or caucus had been conducted?

Obama won, you don't need to spin his win as a surprising come from behind victory.

by world dictator 2008-01-27 08:47AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Kennedy does have an organization... and a big donor list.  Where I think this helps is it gets some sds to Obama who were waiting to make a choice.

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-27 08:20AM | 0 recs
Re: as you sound more like a loser

explains this to me.

Ben Smith reported earlier this week that the Clintons were concerned about Kennedy's endorsement and were making a full-court press:

   I do know, however, that Hillaryland is worried: Two sources say she's directed a flood of calls the senator's way, with everyone from union leaders to his Massachusetts constituents scrambling to stop what Clinton's camp is worried could be an endorsement of Obama.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/27 /liberal-lion-ted-kenned_n_83441.html

by Jr1886 2008-01-27 08:23AM | 0 recs
Re: as you sound more like a loser

Of course they don't want Kennedy to endorse Obama so they tried to talk him out of it although I'd take Ben Smith with a pinch of salt. Since you think Ted Kennedy is so important would you have switched your vote to Clinton if he'd endorsed her. I already know the answer. It's a nice trinket to have but it isn't material.

by ottovbvs 2008-01-27 08:31AM | 0 recs
Re: as you sound more like a loser

There are lots of people on the fence between Obama and Cliton.  This should help many of those tip to Obama

by Helenann 2008-01-27 08:46AM | 0 recs
Re: as you sound more like a loser

Again, I am not sure I agree with that... but here is what I think it gives him...

1) Obviously 1 more Super Delegate.  TK has a lot of power in the party and could help pull additional SDs Obama's way.  

2) If this thing gets Brokered, TK could be very helpful unless a shotgun marriage is pushed on Obama and Clinton (which IMHO is the most likely option in a Brokered Convention with Clinton in the top spot.)

3) TK has a huge donor list and that not only helps Obama it potentially keeps that money away from Hillary, which could be big the longer this goes... remember, a lot more of Hillary's donors are maxed out than Obamas.  

4) TK has a good organization in MA, which could help to GOTV for Obama on Feb 5... This along with Kerry's group can be very helpful.

5) Positive media coverage

I think the effects of this endorsement and most of them play out behind the scenes more than in the public eye.  

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-27 09:12AM | 0 recs
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Just what are Foreigner's views of us? :D

by frankies 2008-01-27 08:30AM | 0 recs
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By and large they think we are reactive, gullible, narcissistic, celebrity obsessed, believe our own propaganda, are boastful, and grossly self indulgent. Just my take after interacting with them for forty years. They also think we have lots of good qualities like generosity and optimism.    

by ottovbvs 2008-01-27 08:34AM | 0 recs
Re: The endorsement

is not supposed to change anything here in this blog, but in the real world it will make  a huge difference. Believe it or not most people don't follow politics as we do here. They relied on their leaders to guide their decision. Why is Hillary so popular in so many states? It's bc of Bill whether you wanna say it or not but that's the truth. So her support is not firm and can be swing very quickly to another candidate. Hint: check RCP average for Hillary in Nevada before Iowa vs the margin of victory.You need to stop being delusional. Ted has real influence in Massachusetts and will sway some SD to come out of the closet and support Obama too.

by Jr1886 2008-01-27 08:45AM | 0 recs
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All the little baystaters line up and do what Uncle Ted tells them. It could be worth a handful of votes but it will not be material. Go ahead believe it's going to change the basic dynamics of MA if you want. It's no skin off my nose.    

by ottovbvs 2008-01-27 08:50AM | 0 recs
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Ha!  I thought of exactly the same thing, even though they were a little before my time.

by rfahey22 2008-01-27 10:08AM | 0 recs
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Otto, did you also foresee the IA results as well? This is nonsense. Ted Kennedy's endorsement in the democratic party is huge, in no small measure because he has known the Clinton's for years and opted not to endorse Hillary.

I will wait for the actual endorsement tomorrow at the rally in DC but let's not kid ourselves. This is huge,if for no other reason b/c it says to other elected officials who may fear going against the Clintons, it's ok.

Huge.

by commoncents 2008-01-27 08:47AM | 0 recs
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I never said anything about IA. Why will you Obamanauts invent stuff. I said I came to the conclusion over a month ago she was going to lose SC. It's been popular wisdom for about three weeks so it was hardly a Nostradamus like prediction. I'd be very surprised if the Clinton campaign didn't come to this conclusion before me since they are professionals. As for Ted Kennedy, I repeat my basic question to you. If he'd endorsed her would you have switched your vote to Clinton. So why would you think based on such info as we have, that voters in MA are going behave any differently than you.    

by ottovbvs 2008-01-27 08:57AM | 0 recs
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I would also bet you and they didn't expect her to lose by as much as she did... I know I didn't... I expected 8-10% victory for Obama... not 28%.

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-27 09:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Otto,

To directly answer your question.  I wouldn't change my vote because I have made up my mind, but polls show a lot of people in Mass have still not made up their minds.  This will have influence.  It is also likely to add a lot of fundraising prowess to the campaign.

by jbsloan 2008-01-27 09:27AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

the next minute after Ted will endorse Obama I will send my check to Hillary

by WeNeed3rdParty 2008-01-27 08:45AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Who cares?

by Jr1886 2008-01-27 08:45AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Hillary does

by world dictator 2008-01-27 08:48AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Especially if the rumors are true.

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-27 09:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Money down the drain!

by Helenann 2008-01-27 08:47AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

No Democrat - not even Kucinich - would accept Edwards pledge to reject donations from Washington lobbyists - which he has done his entire political career.

The Dem establishment loves them some lobbyist donations - and their pay-to-play game is safe with Oblahma or Hillary.

And it's not surprising the Dem establishment would use an empty suit rockstar as a tool to build the Dem base.  

Oprah began playing the race card - and Dem reps would be viewed as "racist" for not supporting Oblahma. In the meantime - endorsing him builds their own constituent base.

by annefrank 2008-01-27 09:01AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama
That same poll had 41% saying that they could change their mind and 8 % undecided.  It seems like it would be easy to make up a big gap in Massachusetts.  Also, polling in Massachusetts is likely to see a similar effect it has in Iowa, Nevada and South Carolina because this election is changing the number of people coming out to vote.  
The Mayor of Boston, Tom Menino is supporting Clinton and he has a strong machine, but it is nothing compared to the Kennedy's.  Add Deval Patrick, John Kerry and Michael Dukakis all supporting Obama and that is a lot of muscle in massachusetts.
by jbsloan 2008-01-27 09:24AM | 0 recs
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You're right jb. We are seeing the Dem "machine" at work. This is how GW won in 2000. After his initial loss, the repug "machine" got behind him and wala - we got ourselves an inept incompetent preznit and an endless war. The Clintons never had the machine behind them, so they became their own. Kennedy was never a friend of the Clintons for some reason.

by India 2008-01-27 12:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

The one thing I have noticed in every primary/caucus  state so far is this: Nationwide, Hillary is ALWAYS ahead of Barack by 25+ points. Then Barack starts campaigning in that state and then  people get to hear his message live and unedited (Especially not through a Clinton surrogate).  The GOTV effort ramps up, a presto! you have a tight contest.

Regardless of what the polls say, GA, NY, NJ and MA are toss-ups.

And believe this too, eventually Bill is going to start becoming a liability.    

by xodus1914 2008-01-27 10:34AM | 0 recs
Look at the difference

Clinton supporters = people looking to latch on to the "inevitable" candidate, and those who owe the Clinton's political favors.

Obama supporters = those people who know that he is our best chance to win in November and most likely to bring in support to form the widest possible coalition.

by highgrade 2008-01-27 08:05AM | 0 recs
Re: Look at the difference

The difference I see is about 40 I.Q. points, so our votes will cancel each other out....:)

by robert ethan 2008-01-27 08:13AM | 0 recs
Re: Look at the difference

Wow, I can't believe you called Clinton supporters stupid... insulting yourself like that... tsk tsk.

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-27 08:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

DJ is a very typical Obama supporter I'd say. Somewhat emotionally overwrought judging by the tenor of his comments.

by ottovbvs 2008-01-27 08:07AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

No doubt Caroline was talking directly to Uncle Ted when she wrote:


As parents, we have a responsibility to help our children to believe in themselves and in their power to shape their future. Senator Obama is inspiring my children, my parents' grandchildren, with that sense of possibility.

In her endorsement of Obama, Claire McCaskill talked directly of how she was pushed over the edge by her daughter's enthusiasm.  The idealism of youth will be a major influence throughout this election, both in their active participation and in the effect they have on their parents and grandparents.

by Piuma 2008-01-27 08:07AM | 0 recs
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by robert ethan 2008-01-27 08:12AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy

What does that even mean? Besides, I actually LIKED many parts of the 60's, such as the Great Society, so I don't really see the point.

by JewishJake 2008-01-27 08:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Nice borderline racist response :(

Borderline?  That was blatant.

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-27 08:22AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy

"The Black Candidate" - you're as respectful as you are insightful, Bob.

by rfahey22 2008-01-27 08:23AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy

It is this dispictable actions of The Clintons, that the publice rebuked and rejected The Clintons.  I would be very concerned, as Democrats of the exit polling.  1/5 AA voters said if Clinton is the nominee, they would not vote for her.  If she is the nominee, she need every vote she can get.  The damage The Clintons have done within the Democratic Party is not easily forgiven and was just shocked by Democrats and the establishment alike.  Expect more endorsements going Obama's way and warranted.  We don't want, nor need the likes of The Clintons and their "only care about themselves" attitude.  We need to transcend and move on as a party, together, they represent NOTHING of that.

by Edna Howard 2008-01-27 08:27AM | 0 recs
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You're doing a good job returning to the 60s yourself with that kind of language.

by animated 2008-01-27 08:28AM | 0 recs
Re: Nice borderline racist response :(

There wasn't anything borderline about that. It went sailing way past the line.

by Denny Crane 2008-01-27 08:44AM | 0 recs
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Come on Al Gore.

by rikyrah 2008-01-27 08:15AM | 0 recs
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this was leaked by the clinton camp to kill the announcement- no class.

i have not been as disappointed in two people as i have been with the clintons in these past weeks.

i do so hope that fVP Gore decides to endorse Sen. Obama.

by dad 2008-01-27 08:16AM | 0 recs
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your proof

by world dictator 2008-01-27 08:50AM | 0 recs
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This is huge!! and I think Massachusetts will narrow very soon.

Should Al Gore endorses Obama, this would be a game changer as someone who works with the Clintons for 8 years in the Whitehouse to rebuke her like that. So much for I am more experienced argument.

by Jr1886 2008-01-27 08:16AM | 0 recs
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Speaking as someone who knows MA very well having lived there for years I can assure you this is not huge in MA.  

by ottovbvs 2008-01-27 08:38AM | 0 recs
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  What about speaking as a Clinton hack?

by cilerder86 2008-01-27 08:50AM | 0 recs
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hahahaha...now that was funny

by Jim Engler 2008-01-27 10:04AM | 0 recs
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   Looks like I netted a "1" from the #2 Clinton hack of MyDD.  

by cilerder86 2008-01-27 11:45AM | 0 recs
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Most likely this will not switch a firm Clinton supporter to Obama, but what we've seen in all the primaries so far is that there a huge amounts of people who do not make up their minds until the last moment, and an endorsement like this helps tremendously in Obama's pitch to them.

by Piuma 2008-01-27 08:53AM | 0 recs
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Of course, the Kennedys are extremely unimportant figures in MA, it's not like 2/3 of the state votes for them, or like they have extensive roots and networks in a state they have had the spot light in for decades... oh wait.

by JewishJake 2008-01-27 08:55AM | 0 recs
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Speaking as someone who was born in Central Mass and lived here most of my life, I respectfully disagree.  Kerry not important, yes; Kenney, very important

by labor nrrd 2008-01-27 12:46PM | 0 recs
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Right. Al Gore, who said he competed with Hillary for VP. Al Gore who gave us Lieberman (ha!) and a bitter stupid loss to GW by walking away publicly from his own record as VP. Same goes for Kerry, who blatantly ignored his own choice for VP and endorses Barack. No loyalty, these characters. Who needs them. Now the Kennedy endoresements are HUGE. The media is going to play it up so big tomorrow. It will be like a coronation and the polls will move accordingly.

Hil needs our emotional support more than ever righ now.

by India 2008-01-27 12:46PM | 0 recs
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Congrats to the true establishment candidate.

by mbfeldma 2008-01-27 08:17AM | 0 recs
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I know, because Teddy Kennedy is such an establishment asshole, him being one of the most vocally Progressive Senators and all...

by JewishJake 2008-01-27 08:22AM | 0 recs
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not according to Barack Obama. Obama said he sits on his butt quite a bit

by world dictator 2008-01-27 08:51AM | 0 recs
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guess it didn't matter to to the Sen. then did it?  I love when non-issues, that ppl try to make issues then blow up in the person's face.  Yea, Sen. Kennedy obv is very distraught over a joke Sen. Obama made 4 years ago.....

what a joke

by Jim Engler 2008-01-27 10:05AM | 0 recs
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did you even watch the speech?

by world dictator 2008-01-27 01:26PM | 0 recs
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TK is a good endorsement for Obama-superdelegates. TK's a good man. I respect him a great deal. But TK isn't Moses, nor is Obama Jesus. TK can't make voters choose Obama. In the end, the voters will make their own personal decision. I am extremely confident in Hill's experience, in depth knowledge of the issues, and her strategy for making CHANGE happen, not HOPING for it. Fortunately, for Hill, she's got a good shot at the DEM NOM and I'm happy with her position at this point. Anyone insinuating that because TK endorsed Obama that this thing is over is DELUSIONAL.

by lonnette33 2008-01-27 08:22AM | 0 recs
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I don't think anyone is saying the nomination is over, rather just that this is very important for Obama in the Super Tuesday state of Mass., and the fact that as a liberal icon, there is a good chance this will push some liberal votes into Obama's camp.

by JewishJake 2008-01-27 08:24AM | 0 recs
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He'd already got the extreme lib vote in MA.  

by ottovbvs 2008-01-27 08:39AM | 0 recs
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Yes, but not nationwide. As Chris Bowers has noted over at OpenLeft, Obama has not done well with very Liberal voters in NH or NV, and would do well to pick up these voters, so one of their icons endorsing him WILL help.

by JewishJake 2008-01-27 08:56AM | 0 recs
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I don't see anyone making that claim.

by rfahey22 2008-01-27 08:25AM | 0 recs
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  Obama needed this.  The polls show him losing Massachusetts by 30 points.  It should be more competitive now.

by cilerder86 2008-01-27 08:22AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Haha. All I have to say is many bad words about the Clintons. I'll keep it to that level.

by Djneedle83 2008-01-27 08:22AM | 0 recs
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The super tueday polls mean nothing because so many voters are undecided and tell polls half-truths.

It's great when ARG has Clinton down by 3 the day before the primary. ooops.. The flawless SurveyUsa had Obama up by  15 points or so..ooops there.

by Djneedle83 2008-01-27 08:23AM | 0 recs
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Here's a question...why are so many key Dems endorsing Obama over a former first lady (and, let's face it, former president) who they've worked with for years and seems strongly favored to win the nomination? Sure, maybe they are just getting on board with the Obama buzz, but these guys are, after all, politicians.

I can understand the Red State endorsements of Napolitano and McCaskill, but why Kerry, Kennedy, and Leahy?

by animated 2008-01-27 08:33AM | 0 recs
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Because Obama is the most inspiring, visionary, honest and brilliant politician in a long time who has the skills and fortitude to unite a divided nation and heal a divided world.

He is the future.

by Helenann 2008-01-27 08:50AM | 0 recs
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Because Obama is the most inspiring, visionary, honest and brilliant politician in a long time who has the skills and fortitude to unite a divided nation and heal a divided world.

Wow, it took me a second, but I now realize that was stated seriously, and not tongue-in-cheek. OMG, maybe Barack Obama really is Raymond Shaw.

by blueflorida 2008-01-27 09:07AM | 0 recs
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And your comparison of Obama to a Manchurian Candidate makes any more sense? Seriously, your pointing out the deification of Obama would be a bit more credible if you didn't make unbased and horrible comparisons yourself.

by JewishJake 2008-01-27 09:19AM | 0 recs
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Sassy!

Settle down, JJ. Crack open a can of pop. Put your feet up. Let out a silent fart or two.

The very point I was trying to make was that folks need to incorporate a tad bit more realism into there evaluations of the candidates -- especially Obama, for the simple reason that he inspires a bit more enthusiasm than the rest and therefore people become inclined to think the's some sort of superman. The whole point was for you to reject the comparison of Obama to the Manchurian Candidate. Just as you should reject his deification.

Anyway, however well or poorly executed, there's a technical term for this.

by blueflorida 2008-01-27 09:46AM | 0 recs
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Caroline Kennedy likens him to her Dad.  Ted will be endorsing him tomorrow.  The newly elected Democratic Governors in red states are endorsing him in droves.  John Kerry sees him as the future of the party.  He attracts old, young, black, white, asian, latino, natice american, men and women.  He is in the process of building the biggest political coalition we have seen in our lifetimes.

I see it. These others can see it.  It is real.  And it is powerful.  

And maybe that scares you and you can't see through your fear.

by Helenann 2008-01-27 10:09AM | 0 recs
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Too funny blueflorida! Raymond Shaw!

by India 2008-01-27 12:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Cult of personality much?

by LakersFan 2008-01-27 09:33AM | 0 recs
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A good question, and the answers tell us a lot

"why are so many key Dems endorsing Obama over a former first lady (and, let's face it, former president) who they've worked with for years and seems strongly favored to win the nomination?"

It is about a lot more than buzz. The reality is that while he was president, Clinton had mixed relations with the Democrats in congress, especially the liberals. A lot of Bill's political success was due to his carefully painting himself as the middle of the road, "triangulating" himself between the congressional democrats and republicans. As a result, there was always tension in his relationships with folks like Kennedy -- things like welfare reform, the health care reform, NAFTA etc all hurt. (And then, of course, they had to deal with defending him during impeachment -- they all were happy to fight the Republicans for overreaching, but they were also angry at Clinton for being stupid enough to end up in the situation).

When I was working on the hill (for a union), a common buzz among Democratic offices was that they felt Clinton was ignoring the needs of the Democrats, and governing only with his own political interests in mind.

A lot of progressive and liberal Democratic leaders respected Bill Clinton for his amazing political abilities, but many of them never really warmed up to him.

Whether their impressions are accurate or inaccurate, whether they are fair or unfair, it probably explains why some liberal Democrats are not looking forward to the prospect of another Clinton presidency. Now that they are sure that Obama is truly viable, they are willing to risk some political capital in a fight with the Clintons.

(This may be an example of how Bill is a mixed blessing for Hillary's campaign -- in addition to the goodwill he has, she also gets the baggage that comes with it)

by lifelongdem 2008-01-27 09:30AM | 0 recs
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Agreed.  Also, I think there remains a Clinton fatigue within a sizeable section of the party.  Nothing is ever easy with them and a certain segment probably wants to avoid the right wing venum that inevitably comes with them.

Obama is proving the only viable alternative so that is probably why they are endorsing him.

by John Mills 2008-01-27 01:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

This is the biggest endorsement to date for Obama, because this one could actually win him a state.

BTW: How can anybody call O.B. the outsider when all of Washington seems to have endorsed him?

by ND1979 2008-01-27 08:34AM | 0 recs
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This is the biggest endorsement to date for Obama, because this one could actually win him a state.

Are you serious. Ted Kennedy's endorsement win MA for Obama.

by ottovbvs 2008-01-27 08:40AM | 0 recs
good question

I would add the corollary, how can people claim Obama is the outsider when the whole Washington media establishment and punditocracy are for him?

by desmoinesdem 2008-01-27 08:42AM | 0 recs
Re: good question

This argument won't fly. So you think John don't envy these endorsement too? he just won't get them. He's humiliating himself and might end up losing everything. He needs to endorse one of the two top candidates before he loses it all. Check out this good article. Warning it's not pleasant as you are a tremendous supporter but it says it as it is:http://dickpolman.blogspot.com/2008/01/j ohn-edwards-headless-chicken.html

by Jr1886 2008-01-27 08:52AM | 0 recs
of course he would like the endorsements

but he will not get them, because he is challenging the establishment.

Look at the way some conservatives, like Andrew Sullivan, fall all over themselves praising Obama. Is that because they think he would govern like a progressive?

There is no reason for Edwards to drop out. You should want him to stay in, because he probably damages Hillary at least as much as Obama, if not more.

by desmoinesdem 2008-01-27 09:15AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

By virtue of his age, he will always be the outsider.  These endorsements by the old lions of the Senate are important to combat the notion of him being too young, too inexperienced, or too outside to effect change.  It is proof there are people on the inside who want change and realize the potential of Obama to bring a true mandate for change.

by Piuma 2008-01-27 08:46AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

They know that but have to whine someway. All of them would be trumpeting this endorsement has their chosen candidate get it.

by Jr1886 2008-01-27 08:54AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Jr that's where you are wrong at least in my case. I'd have said exactly the same had Clinton got it. It's nice to have but not material. The only endorsements that are really worth having are ones that come with organisational muscle. You think everyone is going to behave in a different way than you would do. It's actually not very likely.    

by ottovbvs 2008-01-27 09:02AM | 0 recs
now his age makes him the outsider?

Please, Piuma, recognize that Obama is a full-fledged member of the club. If he were an outsider, he would not have the near-unanimous support of the Washingon pundits.

by desmoinesdem 2008-01-27 09:17AM | 0 recs
Re: now his age makes him the outsider?

I think the Club is in transition.  There is no doubt Barack had to fight members of his own party in his Ethics reform bill.  There are entrenched interests in his own Party but people are not all pure, nor are they all evil.  Within every politician there is a good side of him who came to politics out of a feeling of public service.  There is also the power side and the corrupting influence it has.  Just as Obama calls for all of us to work together and follow our better instincts, he is saying the same to Washington.  And there are people who respond to that, who want to see their colleagues and even themselves be better.  

This is what Kennedy appealed to, especially after he was elected.  Almost everyone in Politics today was touched by the Kennedy experience and have longed for that idealism to return.  That hope has returned and people are moving toward it.

by Piuma 2008-01-27 10:57AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Obama needed this more than Clinton did. It's obviously a good endorsement for him. Still we've seen from the Primary season edorsements can be overhyped. Clinton got the Des Moines Register and came in third in Iowa. Obama got both of  NH's representatives and the Boston Globe and lost New Hampshire. He also got the Service Workers union and lost Nevada. People haven't been paying much attension to endorsements. Now Teddy is big, but I think more so from an organizational perspective than from people changing their minds just because he picked Obama. People will make up their own minds, and some ideas will concider Teddy's endorsement as one factor. NY and NJ are virtual locks for Clinton. MA even with this endorsement is no lock for Obama.

by Christopher Lib 2008-01-27 08:54AM | 0 recs
newspaper endorsements have little value

Clinton got the Des Moines Register, Quad-City Times and Burlington Hawk-eye, and Obama won all those counties.

Edwards got the Council Bluffs paper, and Clinton won that county.

Obama got the Sioux City paper, and Clinton won that county.

by desmoinesdem 2008-01-27 09:19AM | 0 recs
T. Kennedy must believe in "fairy tales"

The Liberal Lion has roared. And he roars for Obama. hehe!!

but seriously Obama begun a slow process of ratification by the Democratic establishment shortly after Iowa, and now it seems the flood gates have been kicked wide open.  Also what does this say about the Clinton's? After all these years of knowing the Clinton's, Ted Kennedy chose to go with Obama. WOW!

So it's official. Kennedy is in. Will Gore be next?

by rapcetera 2008-01-27 08:55AM | 0 recs
Impressive

That's 2 out of the 4 big ones for Obama.

Kennedy & Kerry for Obama.

Clark for Clinton.

Gore remains.

by Jerome Armstrong 2008-01-27 09:04AM | 0 recs
my thoughts exactly.

I think Gore sits it out or endorses Obama, and I think he does the latter before the 5th.

by neutron 2008-01-27 09:24AM | 0 recs
Clark???????????

Big????

How is Clark big? How is Clark on the level of Kennedy or Gore?  

Sorry but Clark does not possess the Gravitas of the other folks on your list there....

by rapcetera 2008-01-27 09:27AM | 0 recs
Re: Clark???????????

That is what had me scratching.  CLARK?  Big?  How?  The only huge endorsements with movement is Ted Kennedy and Al Gore, period.  Al Gore today is a Nobel Peace Prize Laureate, he has his own bully pulpit.  He is not Al Gore from 2004.

by Edna Howard 2008-01-27 09:45AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Clark was a big one? I hardly thought so,lol

by Jr1886 2008-01-27 09:07AM | 0 recs
Comparing strings of beads.

My Kennedy is brighter than your Clark. My Leahy is shinier than your Schumer. It's ludicrous as has been demonstrated time without number. Go ahead believe a mass of Clinton supporters are going to become Obama supporters although you wouldn't do the reverse in a million years. JR you're a poor judge of human nature.  

by ottovbvs 2008-01-27 09:18AM | 0 recs
Re: Comparing strings of beads.

I really think you're missing the point. The fact is, a healthy portion of the electorate is undecided or soft in their current decision, and I'm sorry, but endorsements DO affect those people and their decisions, just as much as media influenced momentums from from individual Primary/Caucus victories do.

by JewishJake 2008-01-27 09:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Comparing strings of beads.

Jewish Jake if he'd endorsed Clinton would it have changed your vote. Everyone on the Obama is getting carried away with SC euphoria. My basic premise is that you win elections with coalitions and an effective on ground organization to get that coalition to the polls. Clinton has her coalition and Obama has his. The relative proportions of those coalitions change state to state depending on local demographics. There is movement at the edges brought about by things like Kennedy's endorsement but its not terribly material. You can disagree with my basic premise if you like but I'm still going to believe it. It's next test comes on Tuesday because regardless of all arguments about seating or how much play it gets there's no getting around the fact it's a hell of a good opinion. You may not believe me but I'm a believer in intellectual honesty, it's one of the reasons I ceased to be a Republican about 12 years ago. If I see things shift in FL I'll be the first to admit it because it will be material unlike the largely ephemeral endorsement of Ted Kennedy.l  

by ottovbvs 2008-01-27 09:44AM | 0 recs
Clark would have been big.

if he endorsed somebody other then Clinton.

It was still important to shore up support.

by neutron 2008-01-27 09:34AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Barack Obama is like the top prospect on a baseball team. Has a world of potential. However he's being blocked by a very effective veteran at the position.

Do the Democrats essentially trade their veteran star for a guy who has potential to be better?

Obama's time will come. Democrats smell blood and see Obama as their best chance to win in November. They see Obama as their savior. As their Reagan. As their guy who is going to transform the face of electoral politics for the next ten years.

Guys like Obama don't come around every year, and while I'm leaning towards Hillary (I'm skeptical on the whole hope message, don't want to be let down and don't want the country to pick the wrong person. I like Bill Clinton regardless of the smear against him and having him back in the White House is a positive for me not a negative) but i understand the calls of the party for a change in the leadership at the top.

If not in 08, he'll be the guy in 2012 (Hillary is very beatable in the General). It's exciting because who do the Republicans have? John Kerr.. I mean Mitt Romney?

What young charismatic guy do the GOP have? It's a shame that the primary has become such an issue of race.. because we really do have the best candidates and each one should be a part of the next Democratic administration.

by falcon4e 2008-01-27 09:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

THANK YOU for your very astute, honest and objective  comment. Such comments are very hard to come across here on Mydd

by rapcetera 2008-01-27 09:25AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Ted Kennedy is trying to relive 1980 through Barack Obama.  Of course, Obama has a better chance of being the nominee than Fat Teddy ever did.

by Vox Populi 2008-01-27 09:18AM | 0 recs
he could have won that race

if not for Chappaquiddick. I remember 1980--Chappaquiddick was the only thing holding my mother back from supporting Ted Kennedy.

by desmoinesdem 2008-01-27 09:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

hehe! poor Teddy, now he's gonna be called "Fat" for endorsing Obama.

by rapcetera 2008-01-27 09:23AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

lol well honestly I've heard him called "fat" for my entire life on late night TV.

by Vox Populi 2008-01-27 09:32AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Otto: I am an HRC supporter, but Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and Deval Patrick have all come out for Obama. If it happened for my candidate, I would say "close up shop, Obama."

Massachusetts just got a lot closer IMO.

by ND1979 2008-01-27 09:26AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Well there's a recent poll out there which says she's over 30% ahead in MA. Does that overstate her lead. Probably. Do all these in MA endorsements help him of course. Is it a game changer. Not likely surely. Let me tell you Deval Patrick and Kerry are not quite demigods in MA. Kennedy is but if I was a 45 year old working woman supporter of Clinton does Kennedy change my basic mindset. I don't think so.        

by ottovbvs 2008-01-27 09:32AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Falcon: Love the analogy and you being a baseball fan (like myself) know that the youth usually wins out and the veteran is traded.

The other possibility is that the prospect is traded (in this case his voters are pissed and stay home) and then he (they) come back to terrorize the team that traded them.

I just wish that we had an Obama or HRC in 2004 and not be forced to choose between the best 2-3 candidates we have had since 1996. Spend it out in other words.

by ND1979 2008-01-27 09:31AM | 0 recs
Who is in Who's Head

You know, for a week and a half, we heard how much Clinton was in Obama's head.  I'm starting to think the exact opposite:

1)  Bill Clinton viewed himself as a liberal transformational figure.  Obama's remarks to the Reno paper, quite frankly, pissed him off.

2)  Bill Clinton viewed himself as a spokesperson of the AA community.  Obama's overwhelming support among AAs in South Carolina may put an end to this and the bitter Jesse Jackson comparison seemed to be him lashing out against him.

3)  Now this.  Bill Clinton viewed himself as the heir to the Kennedy's (the famous Boy's Town picture was a major part of his 92 myth making).

Clinton's anger isn't necc. against Obama, it is about his legacy being eclipsed.

by ChrisR 2008-01-27 09:35AM | 0 recs
Re: Who is in Who's Head

Seems if Bill is worried about his legacy being eclipsed he wouldn't be squandering it so liberally as he has done in this partisan and brutal campaign.  He cares nothing of his legacy so much as winning.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-01-27 12:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Who is in Who's Head

Legacy Schmegazy. Clintons record is set in stone. A couple of weeks energetic campaigning in SC is going to have zero affect on what people think or believe about bubba. Guys do look beyond the end of your nose. This whole thing will be forgotten in a couple of weeks.    

by ottovbvs 2008-01-27 01:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Who is in Who's Head

Well, that certainly would seem to be part of the Clinton calculus.  I wonder, though.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-01-27 02:21PM | 0 recs
the one pattern we've seen is

That when the campaign is elsewhere, the polls show a significant Hillary lead. But once people see the candidates up close, the lead is either shaved down to a couple points or erased completely. This is what has happened in every state thus far. Hillary was winning SC by 20 points weeks ago, and ends up losing by almost 30.

by highgrade 2008-01-27 09:40AM | 0 recs
Re: the one pattern we've seen is

Clinton was shown winning SC about three months ago by 20 points and since then it's been downhill all the way. In truth if anyone had taken two minutes to think about it this was nonsense. The idea that in a state where just over half the electorate was black that bloc were not going ot vote overwhelmingly for the black guy was absurd. The penny dropped with me about a month ago and I cannot believe Clinton and co didn't figure it out months ago as a possible scenario. I really think you are missing the basic coalition theory of how politics works.

by ottovbvs 2008-01-27 09:54AM | 0 recs
Re: the one pattern we've seen is

Even you could win SC if you could get 85% aa vote.

by indydem99 2008-01-27 11:10AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Dixiecrats just like old Strom. Give me a break.

by ottovbvs 2008-01-27 09:55AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama


The Clintons have chosen to make themselves dixiecrats

W.O.W.

There must be a fire sale on hyperbole somewhere.

by blueflorida 2008-01-27 10:33AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Ted kennedy has been in the senate for 45 years. This makes Obama the establisment candidate. You can not get more establishment than Kennedy. It is really laughable for Obama to claim to be an outsider. Between Kennedy and kerry th MA twins they have 70 years of Washington. Senator Obama is "Hoodwinking" and "Bamboozling" the electorate.

by indydem99 2008-01-27 11:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Just a reminder.  Ted Kennedy ran against Carter in the Dem primary, then, when he lost the nomination to Carter, refused to endorse him, which no doubt had some effect on Carter's loss.  This did not go over at all well with Democrats. Then, before Iowa'04, Ted Kennedy endorsed Kerry.  How much influence this had in turning votes away from Dean is open to debate.  But we do remember how the '04 general election turned out for Kerry, don't we?  And Kerry has endorsed Obama, too.  Those of us who opposed the nomination of Kerry, because we were fairly certain he would lose, are unlikely to forget Ted Kennedy's hand in this...and over time a number of other events.  So while I think Kennedy's endorsement might help Obama some in Massachusetts, it may have either no effect or a negative one in the rest of the country.

Has anyone ever done a good study on exactly how much endorsements actually effect a political race?

by miriam 2008-01-27 11:13AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

I wonder how those independents feel if they have to vote for kennedy the outsider. LOL

by indydem99 2008-01-27 11:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Thanks miriam for the 1980 Kennedy reminder. I now remember how nasty Teddy got with Carter. Really tore him down. That divided the party. See how easy it is to forget?

TK does have a lot of power but he will never be as great as either one of the Clinotns.

BTW, since Caroline, Teddy, and Oprah now love Obama, look for the First Lady of California to start weighing in. It's inevitable.

by India 2008-01-27 12:59PM | 0 recs
Sebelius, too

Check Mark Ambinder.  She's about to endorse Obama.

Sebelius garners headlines here in KC and not only has an effect in the KS caucus, but a significant effect on the KC media.

Really, really big get for Obama.

by ChrisR 2008-01-27 11:36AM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

This statement from Kathleen Kennedy Townsend was just released by the Clinton campaign:

"I respect Caroline and Teddy's decision but I have made a different choice. While I admire Senator Obama greatly, I have known Hillary Clinton for over 25 years and have seen first hand how she gets results. As a woman, leader, and person of deep convictions, I believe Hillary Clinton would make the best possible choice for president. She shares so many of the concerns of my father. Hillary has spent a lifetime speaking out on behalf of the powerless and working to alleviate poverty, in our country and around the world. I have seen her work up close and know she will be a great President. At this moment when so much is at stake at home and overseas, I urge our fellow Americans to support Hillary Clinton. That is why my brother Bobby, my sister Kerry, and I are supporting Hillary Clinton."

by indydem99 2008-01-27 01:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

Isn't one of Obama's raps on Clinton that she is old Washington, that she's been around too long, that long-lived Washington pols are what is wrong with the country?  How does that square with who Kennedy is.

My own opinion (which may be bunk) is that the JFK branch of the Kennedy's do want another family to have 2 presidents. They are the Dems premiere political dynasty. They expected that to happen to them and if not for the tragedy of Bobby's assassination, it probably would have. They are jealous of that legacy.

Meanwhile the Bobby branch of the Kennedy's has endorsed Hillary.

by vdeputy 2008-01-27 03:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Ted Kennedy to Endorse Barack Obama

I think the Caroline Kennedy endorsement will be a bigger boost to Obama.  Especially do those of us driking the "Kool-Aid" as I am told on this page so many times...

And while I think the Kathleen Kennedy Townsend endorsement is nice, I don't think any Clinton supporter, even the ones here on MY DD would tell me that they rather have Kathleen then Ted and/or Caroline.  It seems that no mater who endorses Obama, the Clinton supporters here attack it as not being so great....

Please....  Ted Kennedy is a big endorsement.  As was Kerry. As was McCaskill. As will be (TBA)

by shoeshine boy 2008-01-28 06:53PM | 0 recs

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