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Consider this an open thread... What's on your mind tonight?

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Re: Open Thread

You know Carville was right when he was on CNN with Obama's manager Axelrod , when he said he had told the Clinton's to take Obama's threat seriously when he said he was from Chicago and he knew how to play hardball.

All this racial crap being thrown around by his supporters right after the new hampshire primary doesn't serve obama well , if he thinks thats the way he is going to win South Carolina and he lets this story blow out of proportion it would deal a fatal blow to his candidacy.

My advice to Obama , tell your surrogates to back off before you get in too deep.

All that talk of she wasn't crying for Katrina right after the New hampshire primary by Jesse Jackson jr and blaming his loss on race when he got exactly the share of votes the polls predicted only clinton got more is all directed at South Carolina.

So if this is obama's " Southern Strategy " , try to turn the Clinton's into racists , it would be a sad day .

by lori 2008-01-11 08:28PM | 0 recs
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This is all being fueled by another off-the-record "Punjabi" memo being circulated to the media, but with no attribution to the Obama campaign permitted.

by hwc 2008-01-11 10:50PM | 0 recs
Ca: Cuts Might Shock You

January 11, 2008 California State Budget
http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/VoterGui deSupp.pdf

http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/

Californians Need to Be Aware of Immediate Budget Cuts Proposed--There Are Some Real Shockers Here

While there is a good deal of coverage of the budget and cuts proposed by the Governor for the next fiscal year to deal with the estimated $14.5 million deficit, the more immediate cuts to take effect March 1 out of the current budget to deal with a $3.3 billion shortfall needs to be looked at now--and carefully. In these immediate cuts are cuts in disaster assistance, programs for deaf children, children with severe mental and physical problems, adoptions, enforcement of labor laws and the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA), emergency preparation, and veterans retirement and programs for vets with memory problems. And these are just a few that I detail at the end of this article.

Next year's budget will sort itself out in a process that will go on until June. It will be painful. It is vitally important to the lives of Californians and our future. It needs to be analyzed, debated, and its real life impacts need to be communicated to the voting public and all in the state early--so that the choices made reflect our values and priorities.

The Governor's website contains a fair amount of information on next year's budget. The Governor, his cabinet members, and spokespeople have focused the bulk of their comments on next year's budget as well as the responses of elected officials and civic groups. But it is time consuming and difficult to see the cuts proposed for the current years--almost as if they are being obscured from public view.

Under Proposition 58, passed by the voters in 2004, here is what the Governor is to do if there are immediate problems (which there are) with current spending and revenues:


by dearreader 2008-01-11 11:13PM | 0 recs
by Nathan Empsall 2008-01-11 08:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Open Thread

There are some really fucked up people on MyDD as of late.  

I'm getting tired of this... I can't wait until we have a nominee so we can go back to hating the GOP and some of the douches will go away, and some of the good posters who have left will hopefully come back.

by yitbos96bb 2008-01-11 08:44PM | 0 recs
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I just joined myDD and I didn't even realize 'we' hate the GOP.

by kristoph 2008-01-11 09:01PM | 0 recs
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(hate to reply to myself here but...)

I'd like to add I am independent.

by kristoph 2008-01-11 09:04PM | 0 recs
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I'm starting to think that the GOP and Democratic candidates will NOT be decided on Super Tuesday.  Am I wrong to think that Edwards still has a minor shot at a breakthrough?  Or that Huckabee and McCain are the only real contenders for the Repubs?  Maybe you'll agree that Thompson has only one real test to pass for viability: an autopsy (j/k).

Seriously, does anyone else think we'll have to wait for Ohio to seal the deal?

by nafamabo 2008-01-11 08:47PM | 0 recs
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i have made mention of it , we are going to go way past feb 5 before clinton defeats obama and wins the nomination.

lol

by lori 2008-01-11 08:49PM | 0 recs
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Edwards no longer has a shot at the nomination. I think he will go through 2/5 in the hope that he can  get enough delegates to play king-maker and possibly force a VP spot.

Obama's strategy obviously requires he is within 10% of HRC after 2/5 and use additional funds and his brand of retail politics to make that up through the latter states.

Personally I think HRC has a shot (60%) at ending it 2/5. If she takes NV I think this would be greatly improved (75%). If she takes SC (irrespective of NV) it's all over but for the shouting.

by kristoph 2008-01-11 08:56PM | 0 recs
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Yes, as an Obama supporter, I agree.  If Clinton wins Nevada and SC, what momentum would Obama have going into Super Tuesday?  People would just think of him as an electric candidate that fizzled out. I don't even think if Obama were to win both  Nevada and SC that he could do Clinton in on Super Tuesday.  Obama had 5 days to enjoy having the deck stacked against Hillary, but now he is almost back to where he was before Iowa.

What I have not heard from many people is the possibility that Edwards will in the end direct his delegates to go to Obama. If Obama keeps it close with Clinton delegate wise, it could get very interesting with Edwards, assuming that he picks up a few delegates along the way.

Let us all remember that before Iowa that the conventional wisdom was that Obama needed to win both Iowa and NH. Since he did not win NH, he is left with very little margin for error. Hopefully he can pull it out, but I wouldn't bet on it.

by mecarr 2008-01-11 09:08PM | 0 recs
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(Disclaimer: I am anti-Edwards.)

I don't think Edwards will give his delegates to Obama.

I think he will 'sell' them to Obama in exchange for a VP ticket and a more left leaning platform.

by kristoph 2008-01-11 09:22PM | 0 recs
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Not a bad move. If he can't get the presidency with his delegates, might as well use them to get something.

by mecarr 2008-01-11 09:26PM | 0 recs
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Bloomberg is apparently banking on Texas settling it, at least on the GOP side.

by Nathan Empsall 2008-01-11 09:03PM | 0 recs
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In what situation does Bloomberg run do you suppose?

I mean, he is not going to take the democratic base and he is not going to take the evangelical.

Is what's left big enough? Does he think he has enough money to go after some of the bigger states?

I just don't get how he could possibly win.

by kristoph 2008-01-11 09:19PM | 0 recs
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Bloomberg isn't going to run. Unity 08 closed up shop. And why would he spend millions on a losing campaign? Even if Huckabee is the nom, the same effect can be had by the nonevangelical republicans sitting home and letting him lose to send a message.

by Ga6thDem 2008-01-12 05:27AM | 0 recs
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Unity08 closed up shop because two of their main people went to go work for Team Bloomberg.

by Steve M 2008-01-12 08:25AM | 0 recs
Brokered Convention

Brokered convention. It could happen. Looking at the Super Tuesday states, there are a lot of open primaries in which Obama does well. We could see three Democrats come out of Super Tuesday with significant amount of delegates. At that point, if you do the math, they will have to win almost all the remaining delegates to secure the nomination. Of course, superdelegates are not in play here, which throw the equation into question.

by RJEvans 2008-01-11 09:23PM | 0 recs
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If a brokered convention didn't happen in 2004 then it's not likely to happen this year.

by Ga6thDem 2008-01-12 05:28AM | 0 recs
Re: Brokered Convention

2004 was way different. We had Kerry who exploded into the scene just riding a wave to the nomination. You can't compare 2004 to 2008.

by RJEvans 2008-01-12 01:23PM | 0 recs
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After criminal acts were committed by juvenile immigrants in Germany and these acts made headlines, the conservatives, especially Mr.Cook , didnt hesitate to make political use of it by calling for more drastic juvenile/immigtrant laws. This use was lately criticized by Mr.Struck

http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2008/01/stru ck-said-cook-was-happy-down-to.html

by ccokz 2008-01-12 02:17AM | 0 recs
by misscee 2008-01-12 04:55AM | 0 recs
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Does Obama plan on allowing the racist charge on the Clintons stand until after the So. Carolina primary and then put out a disclaimer?  I think he should do so now and not let this get started, it would be hard to stop....

by my nickle 2008-01-12 05:41AM | 0 recs
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Agreed!  As an Iowa Obama precinct captain I was appalled that the race card was played at the HRC campaign after NH.  DOH!  In the first place it is preaching to the choir, in the second Obama transcends racial divide.  And let's not forget there is legitimate backlash to PC pontificating.  Let's focus on the issues.  All the talk of race and gender is distracting from the important work at hand!

by cwilcox 2008-01-12 06:05AM | 0 recs
Breaking the rules

What happened to the rules?

Post as many comments as you like, but only 1-2 diaries per day.

I see some people posting 3,4,5 diaries a day.

by sndeak 2008-01-12 07:22AM | 0 recs
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A vote for Hillary is a vote against Chris Matthews

by my nickle 2008-01-12 03:56PM | 0 recs

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