Some Selling to Do on Public Financing

Before I get started I just want to thank Todd for pulling the slack yesterday when I was dealing with an interesting issue. While I was walking to class yesterday the zipper on my backpack jostled open and my laptop fell out, crashing to the pavement. As luck would have it, only the screen was damaged, as I found out once I was able to high tail it to the Apple store. Within a few short hours they were able to replace the screen. Also as luck would have it, it seems that my insurer will pay for the repair. As you might imagine, yesterday was a long, but interesting day for me...

A couple days ago Gallup released polling showing that, by a fairly wide margin, Americans disapprove of presidential candidates accepting campaign contributions from federal lobbyists. Thus the take away line for many was that John Edwards' call for other presidential candidates (read: Hillary Clinton) not to accept donations from federal lobbyists has the potential to resonate with the American people.

But another data point from the poll seemed more interesting to me, in a sense, and that was on the public financing of presidential elections. As a quick backstory, those who were in attendence at the Yearly Kos presidential forum or had the opportunity to watch it in full might remember the overwhelmingly strong response the crowd gave to Chris Dodd when he spoke in favor of public financing. Indeed, such a position is assumed to be widely popular with the Democratic base, and possibly even the American people. But that same Gallup poll showed something else. Take a look:

Thinking now about the different ways in which presidential candidates can finance their campaigns, do you think each of the following is an acceptable or unacceptable way for a presidential candidate to raise money for a campaign. How about money from public financing from the federal government?

Acceptable41
Unacceptable57
No opinion2

This poll brings up a couple of interesting points, as well as at least one question that may bear polling -- perhaps even official polling sponsored by the federal government or Congress. As many on this site likely know, there already is a federal financing scheme in place for presidential elections, and has been since the 1976 election. Every single major party presidential nominee has taken public financing in the general election (though that could change this time around), and most candidates have accepted public financing for their primary campaigns (though that began to change in 2000). So do Americans realize that there already is a public financing system in place for presidential elections?

But even if we leave that question unanswered for now, these numbers seem to suggest that there is still a lot of work to be done before there is the political will necessary to implement a system of public financing for all federal elections. Perhaps if you turned the question on its head -- i.e. would you support public financing for federal elections -- you might find more support, even possibly majority support, for such a system. Yet these new numbers from Gallup suggest that there is more than a little reluctance among the American people today for public financing. So those who believe in such a system likely have a lot more work to do in selling such a system if they hope to see one implemented any time soon.

Update [2007-8-31 13:20:49 by Jonathan Singer]: David Donnelly, who works on this issue and who has done a lot of writing here at MyDD, will sound off on this topic early next week, so make sure to stay tuned.

Tags: campaign finance reform, public financing (all tags)

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Re: Some Selling to Do on Public Financing

There's just too much money in elections. But I don't support public financing. Government should fork out money to other vital areas such as healthcare instead of silly political campaigns.

McCain's campaign financing reform has been a disaster...

by areyouready 2007-08-31 08:43AM | 0 recs
Re: Some Selling to Do on Public Financing

Public financing is the only way to get the corruption out of the system and shrink the money spent on campaigns back to a reasonable level.  We need free airtime for candidates, and shorter campaigns (which isn't going to happen--along with overturning outrageous parts of Buckey v. Valeo that ban spending limits and treat money as speech), but politicians need to be freed from having to spend most of their time raising money, collecting IOUs to be repaid to wealthy interests.  Even the ACLU, which on free speech/civil libertarian grounds opposed McCain-Feingold and its ban on soft money, supports public financing.

It works very well in Maine, Vermont, and Arizona.  Minnesota had it for federal elections until the courts struck it down.

We need public financing.  Clean campaigns and clean elections.

by Sandwich Repairman 2007-08-31 10:01PM | 0 recs
Does anyone talk about the cost?

I have heard in the past that it would be less expensive.

Discussing the cost and comparing to where we are now and where this is going would make more sense to me than a generic and vague question.

by citizen53 2007-08-31 08:44AM | 0 recs
Re: Does anyone talk about the cost?

Public financing is less expensive.  Look at the evidence in Maine, Vermont, and Arizona.  Presidential candidates opt out of public financing so they can raise and spend more; not less.  Public financing is one of the key reasons why political campaigns in other industrialized countries cost so much less than ours.  (Canada gives each party a set dollar amount for each vote they got in the last federal election, creating an incentive to vote for a party or candidate even if they have little chance of winning.  That's not the only source of campaign funds though.)

by Sandwich Repairman 2007-08-31 10:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Some Selling to Do on Public Financing

it reflects what I call the deep "knowing" cynacism that the American people have about politics. If you want to under the Congressional numbers, these numbers of public finance, and just about any other item such as campaign strategies, it all stems from that. No on trust peo to do the right thing.

by bruh21 2007-08-31 09:06AM | 0 recs
Re: Some Selling to Do on Public Financing

Voters seem to think that this owuld constitute a major new public expense and an increase in their taxes.  We need to sell it to them by showing how small a percent of their taxes would go to this about how much more they would save by not having representatives beholden to corporate interests.

by lorax 2007-08-31 09:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Some Selling to Do on Public Financing

I think that's actually a pretty bad question. Putting "paid for by the federal government" is a pretty good way to get people to say they don't like something.

by thirdestate 2007-08-31 09:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Some Selling to Do on Public Financing

Until you call it Social Security or Medicare...

by Sandwich Repairman 2007-08-31 10:06PM | 0 recs
Re: Some Selling to Do on Public Financing

There is a lot of ignorance on this issue even by those that you would think might know better.  Having said that I will take the coward's route and suggest that more information can be found at http://www.newrules.org/gov/reform.html

 

by Hugh Stearns 2007-08-31 09:54AM | 0 recs
Agreed - there seems to be a lot of confusion

about what public financing is, echoing the other comments above. People assume it means more taxes. Surprised to see public financing receive the same lack of support as taking money from PACS.

by okamichan13 2007-08-31 10:05AM | 0 recs
well

Since every taxpayer in America sees the checkbox every year (most don't check it), and it clearly states that it does not increase your taxes, either

1.  People already know about public financing.

or

2.  People will always be ignorant.

In any case, I don't see any reason to like the current system.  People seem to forget, but I remember many lierbaks telling me they would vote for Nader in 2000 because they wanted to get the Green Party to the threshold for public financing.  I also remember Gore being screwed as he had to hoard the very limited amount of money (which is totally inadequate to run a nationwide campaign).  So the system hurt us twice... and who can say the political system does not seem corrupt?

by John DE 2007-08-31 10:58AM | 0 recs
oops

lierbaks = weird typo for liberals.

by John DE 2007-08-31 10:59AM | 0 recs
Re: Some Selling to Do on Public Financing

What we currently have is a public subsidy for a handful of the most powerful candidates.  We do not have, what most reasonable people would call federally funded campaigns.  

A decent system of federally funded campaign will:
Reduce the influence of money (thus increasing the power of the vote)
Expand the range of candidates
Increase the quality of information available on candidates.

It may also provide a better opportunity for challenging the hegemony of the Democratic and Republican Parties.  This is why something that makes so much sense to most Americans is not being seriously pushed by either party.  It is time that Democrats start advocating democracy, which means pushing for real campaign finance reform.

by Hugh Stearns 2007-08-31 12:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Some Selling to Do on Public Financing

This one is easy to understand -- probably a majority of people think of campaign spending as egotistical waste. Why in hell should they have to pay for it?

What we need to sell is the democratic process itself, and that will be hard without some very far reaching reforms. Especially overturning the Buckley decision -- rich guys don't have a free speech right to buy an election.

People do seem to like thorough-going public financing in Maine and Arizona. The partial reforms just make it worse though.

by janinsanfran 2007-08-31 02:43PM | 0 recs
Re: Some Selling to Do on Public Financing

Good point.  What we have now is the typical symbiosis of wealth and concentrated political power.  This cannot be a part way sort of thing.  We need to make the FEC independent, nonpartisan, untouchable and with guaranteed levels of funding.  We need to do the same thing with Public Radio and television, which are important parts of this equation.  

It is interesting that red state Arizona has really been a pioneer in good campaign finance reform both on a state wide level and Tucson was the leader in creating a city wide reform that has worked well.

by Hugh Stearns 2007-08-31 03:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Some Selling to Do on Public Financing

I would ban PACs and all campaign contributions from organizations--unions, corporations, non-profits.  Only individual people should be able to give to political campaigns.

I would limit donations from each person to each candidate to $100 a year.

I would enforce the Communications Act of 1934 (we, the public, own the airwaves, and license broadcasters to use them in the PUBLIC interest) and require free radio and TV airtime for political candidates.  Every candidate meeting the threshold of support should be able to speak to us for 30 minutes if they want like Ross Perot did successfully in 1992.  It would be far more substantive and less dominated by horserace reporting by the media.  Thirty second ads and 10 second sound bites would be less common and less important.

About that threshold of support: In order to qualify for public financing and free airtime (and maybe to get on the ballot), candidates would have to demonstrate that they have at least a nominal base of support (the way parliamentary procedure requires motions to be seconded).  They would do this by collecting $5 donations from a percentage of people (1%?  5%?) in the jurisdiction they're running in.  Once they did that, they would get a lump sum of clean (public) money to use on their campaign.  The only money candidates would be allowed to spend on campaigns would be the public lump sum and donations from individuals complying with the $100/year limit.  The amount of the lump sum would be an inflation-indexed amount per resident or registered voter in their jurisdiction.  But in 2007, it would be less than $1 per person/voter.  There is no reason for a Senate campaign in Ohio to cost $11M, or for a House campaign to cost $1 million.

Finally, unlike the awful restriction we live with under Buckley v. Valeo, this clean system would be mandatory, not optional.

Effects of this system:

*Wealthy people are no longer more attractive political candidates.  Non-wealthy Americans have just as much ability to run for public office as the Maria Cantwells and Jon Corzines.

*Politicians spend very little time raising money.  They owe far less to PACs, lobbyists, or any organization.  Their debt is solely to the people they represent.  Access and influence shift accordingly.  Lobbyists can meet with politicians, but they can't remind them of the $10,000 campaign contribution they made.  Lobbyists don't get to write legislation (Medicare Rx benefit, pollution regulations, many more); the people we elect do.

*The amount of money spent on political campaigns is slashed to a fraction of what it is now, as we stare a $1 billion presidential election in the face.

*Better candidates are enticed to run for office, since they don't have to be wealthy or spend much time fundraising or being corrupted to do so.

*Cynicism decreases--and turnout and other participation should increase--as the people know politicians can't be bought and paid for by shady contributors.

*In addition to reducing the cost of campaigns, free airtime raises the level of political discourse by facilitating its being much more substantive.  If our media act responsibly (a big IF), our news coverage of campaigns also becomes more substantive and relevant and less superficial and vaccuous (Clinton's cleavage, Edwards' haircut, Obama's swimsuit).

*Independent and minor party candidates can compete on an equal footing with Democrats and Republicans.  They can have the same amounts of money to spend, and get on the ballot just as easily as Ds and Rs.  It's not proportional representation, instant runoff voting, or single transferable vote.  It doesn't change first past the post.  But it's a major, fair improvement.

Sounds like a helluva great system to me.  ;)

by Sandwich Repairman 2007-08-31 10:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Some Selling to Do on Public Financing

Actually this can be done voluntarily.  Cities like Tucson and Austin have done this very successfully.  There are two distinct advantages to a voluntary system.  The first is that it is legal.  Remember we have one of history's most absurd Supreme Court rulings (Buckey) riding over this.  Second, making the system voluntary really does put pressure on the government to keep the system up to date and fair to keep people from opting out.  This is done by providing really good deep information resources to those candidates that opt in.  This includes free old and new media access. Political information is a little like restaurants.  One of the best things that can happen to a restaurant is have a competitor go in right next door.  People are drawn to areas that offer more choices.  By presenting information sources with deep information on all candidates who are participating you increase traffic.  There is also an unwanted stigma for those who opt out.

A very interesting aspect of this approach is who supports it.  Clearly it is not in the interest of Republicans for the general public to be well informed.  But the Democratic Party too has been reluctant in these areas.  I think that all or most of the D's are claiming to be in favor of this sort of campaign finance reform.  But this is easy to say even as you vote against it or even as you take huge sums of money from Rupert Murdoch (and yes `m talking about HRC.)  Perhaps some of you who are a little better informed can talk about the voting histories of our various candidates in regard to this issue.

by Hugh Stearns 2007-09-01 06:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Some Selling to Do on Public Financing

Ultimately public financing is much better when it's mandatory and everyone running has to comply with it.  Buckley, though it has good parts, is an abominable decision that promotes corruption over democracy and has to be overturned.  That will take a few Democratic presidents obviously (who would Gore have nominated?).  Anymore, the stigma of opting out, at least in presidential campaigns, has pretty much evaporated.  I was shocked when Bush opted out in 2000; now that both nominees did in 04 it seems typical and expected.  True, a voluntary system does show some politicians' true colors.  But I don't think that's worth nearly as much as insuring that all campaigns are funded with clean money, and getting cynicism down and participation up and dirty influence out of the system.

Sure, in any non-federal election, any jurisdiction can create a voluntary public financing system.  Lots of cities have them.  NJ and NC are experimenting with pilot programs, and here in WA there's an effort to do at least that if not something like AZ, VT, and ME have done.  And it's probably got a good shot given this state's above average record on good government (we created the Public Disclosure Commission and nonpartisan congressional redistricting by voter initiatives).  But we need to be able to enact mandatory public financing, and we need it in congressional and presidential elections, too--not just state and local ones.

by Sandwich Repairman 2007-09-02 10:16PM | 0 recs
Re: Some Selling to Do on Public Financing

I think that so long as we keep corporate money out of the elections than we are just fine.  Obama's campaign raising tons of money from small donor's is what I would consider the perfect blend of libertarianism and grass roots democracy.  We have to limit "soft money" and campaign contributions and gifts.

by roger2012 2007-09-02 11:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Some Selling to Do on Public Financing

Soft money is banned; that was the landmark accomplishment of McCain-Feingold.  

There is BOATLOADS of corporate money in political campaigns, and there will be as long as we still have PACs.

Obama is right not to take money from lobbyists, and to raise money primarily in small donations from a large pool of people, but that's still optional; it needs to be mandatory.  And the current donation limits are far too high; worse than they were before McCain-Feingold.  We don't have a system where anyone can run for office regardless of wealth.  We don't have a system where money can't corrupt politicians, and the people know that.  We don't have a system where people can get elected without owing all kinds of favors to monied interests before they even take office.  We don't have a system where everyone has equal access and influence to politicians--there's no PAC for welfare recipients, or the uninsured or unemployed.  We don't have a system that does much of anything to contain the cost of campaigns, so politicians have to spend hours and hours every day raising money, rather than meeting with their constituents and working on addressing their problems.

What you suggest is wholly inadequate if we are to have a real democracy; we need much more wholesale reform.

by Sandwich Repairman 2007-09-03 09:23PM | 0 recs

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