Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

Now that the quick hit on the CNN/WMUR/UNH New Hampsire poll (.pdf) is out of the way, I'd like to get into some of the nitty gritty details from the data.

My initial reading of the poll is that reader Obama08 is correct in stating that the most important number are those that show the race is highly fluid at this point. In fact, according to the poll only 10 percent of Democrats and 7 percent of Republicans indicate being definitely decided at this point, with just 26 percent of Democrats and 22 percent of Republicans leaning towards one candidate. Indeed, despite the fact that the poll shows that only a small percentage of voters are undecided when given a list of candidates from which to choose (9 percent of Democrats and 12 percent of Republicans), a strong majority of New Hampshire primary voters concede that they're still trying to decide at this juncture.

The poll contains some disconcerting news for Republicans, both those hoping that Fred Thompson will be their party's savior as well the base as a whole. Despite the fact that Thompson has effectively been in the race for a good deal of time, he has seen no bump whatsover during the last month, moving from 12 percent in June to 13 percent in July (a statistically insignificant move). Thompson is also the candidate with the second lowest potential for support, with 30 percent of GOP primary voters stating that they would not support him under any circumstances. As I noted in the headline of my previous post on this poll, Thompson's Southern conservative schtick isn't going over too well in New Hampshire, which tends not to get as frenzied by Southerners as do other states.

But perhaps more worrisome, there is still a good deal of unhappiness among the Republican ranks in New Hampshire with their presidential choices. Just 15 percent of Republicans say that they are "very satisfied" with their field. Even adding on the 56 percent who say they are "fairly satisfied", there still remains a sizable minority -- 27 percent -- unsatisfied by the current crop of Republican presidential candidates. Compared with the fact that just 12 percent of Democratic primary voters are unhappy with their choices (with 86 percent satisfied, 32 percent of whom very much so), Republicans continue to show an excitement gap that could cause them great problems this year.

Briefly on the Democratic race before I move on to other things in other posts, about one sixth of Democratic primary voters indicate that they wouldn't consider supporting Hillary Clinton (16 percent) or Barack Obama (15 percent), each, while close to a quarter (24 percent) say they would not consider supporting John Edwards. While this does not mean that he does not have the potential of winning in the Granite State -- looking at the high number of actual undecideds shows that it cannot be the case that any candidate has the race sewn up -- there still should be a concern within the Edwards camp that New Hampshire voters are not receiving their message.

Tags: 2008, Democratic primaries, New Hampshire, Republican Primaries (all tags)

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10% democrats are decided

This is a huge nugget in my opinion and this is why ive been telling people to disregard those national poll showing Clinton with a 10 point leads.

The fact is, people will not make their mind untill the end of the year and this and so many people are undecided.

If voters in NH still cant make up their mind on who they will vote for even when politics is being pushed down their throats so early,do you really think voters in FL,NY,CA where election fever is very soft, will make up their mind NOW?.

Bingo, this is why national polls at this stage doesnt mean shit...If voters in Iowa and NH are still undecided, then i expect things to be worse in any states that will vote in feb 5th..

Ill diary those numbers.

by JaeHood 2007-07-17 06:35PM | 0 recs
I keep saying this

I've started working my precinct, and it seems like more than half are undecided. Very few firm supporters of anyone--lots of leaners and undecideds.

A lot can change in six months. One thing Hillary has in her favor is that her message discipline is  a lot better than Howard Dean's, and so is her top-level staff.

The other candidates will have to make the case against Hillary and not hope for her to self-destruct.

Another thing she has going for her are the talking heads, especially the Republican ones, who will be talking up her candidacy at every chance. The conservative pundits really want Hillary to be our nominee.

by desmoinesdem 2007-07-17 06:52PM | 0 recs
Re: I keep saying this

Mike Lux who was a community activist in IA for a decade said this on Huffington Post during his trip to one of the activist's meetings on July 10th.:

Most of the people who did say they were leaning someplace were leaning towards Edwards, and it was all people who had been with him before. Here is a sentence I heard about half a dozen times that day: "Well, I haven't decided for sure, but I was with Edwards last time and none of the other candidates has shown me why I should change my mind." Don't underestimate the importance of Edwards getting a third of the caucus-goers four years ago. People in Iowa really get to know the candidates, and don't give their commitments easily, but once they do- absent a big reason to change- they also tend not to move away from those candidates. Given the star power in the race, I don't expect Edwards to pick up a lot of new people, but absent some big mistake on his part or some other big new development, he is likely to keep most of the people he had last time, and that is a hell of a base to start with.

3. Obama has a really good core of leadership in the state, and people are just as fascinated by him as the rest of the country, but he has a long way to go in terms of building support. I didn't talk to a single person at the conference who said they were leaning his way yet. People thought his speech was pretty good, it was well-received, but people were no more likely after his speech to be for him than they were beforehand.

The cross-section of Iowans I was with on Saturday was a little more populist and progressive than the average Iowan caucus-goer, but not by much: Iowa Democratic caucus-goers tend toward progressive populism. If my trip there was any indication, this race is really fluid, but my suggestion is that you not underestimate John Edwards.

by BDM 2007-07-17 07:38PM | 0 recs
this sounds about right to me

I know a lot of the people who caucused for Edwards in my precinct. Some are firmly for him again, the rest seem to be leaning his way. I have not yet met anyone in my precinct who was for Edwards last time but has ruled him out this time.

If he holds on to 75-80 percent of the people who caucused for him before, then he starts with probably 25 percent of the delegates right there. If he adds to that, say, a third of the former Gephardt supporters, a quarter of the former Kerry supporters, and a third of the former Dean supporters, that's a win in Iowa right there.

Most Iowans want to give the candidates a fair hearing--not only the top tier. I talked with a friend who went to see Dodd a couple of weekend ago and said her family was very impressed by him. The media may be saying Dodd has no chance, but her family is giving him serious consideration. This is why no one can take anything for granted.

by desmoinesdem 2007-07-17 08:02PM | 0 recs
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I'm hoping Freddie keeps up his tease for awhile.

That way, he and the party regulars can both keep believing that he's their savior.

Then, he'll announce and fall on his fat ass.

And they won't have anyone else to turn to.

by Bush Bites 2007-07-17 06:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

I don't think we can say it doesn't matter entirely!

The trends in the various polls is what to look for.

by lafinur 2007-07-17 06:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

A full 47% of Democratic voters see Clinton as the best bet to beat the Republican opponent.  Obama is next with only 17%.  That should weigh heavily with those currently still trying to make up their mind.

by georgep 2007-07-17 06:41PM | 0 recs
paraphrasing my thoughts from the other thread

I think that those 47 percent of NH residents may not comprehend that the rest of the country is not as progressive as the northeast.

Probably Hillary could win NH, and probably she wouldn't hurt Democrats down-ticket there. They have already elected a woman governor and woman to the US House from NH.

All across the midwest, west and south, though, Hillary would have a very tough time in the purple states, and she would hurt our down-ticket candidates badly in both purple and red states.

I don't even think she has a chance to win Iowa. I suspect we would lose Wisconsin as well with her at the top of the ticket.

I think our Senate seats in SD and LA would be gone for sure.

I think there is a disconnect in NH with people just not getting this aspect of Hillary's candidacy. The political culture in the northeast is very different.

by desmoinesdem 2007-07-17 06:49PM | 0 recs
Re: paraphrasing my thoughts from the other thread

What a laughable post.  I am sorry, but I can't take your stuff too seriously.  You are too anti-Clinton to be fair, balanced or unbiased.  But worse, it clouds a sense of realism, which is a terrible thing to lose.  :-)

by georgep 2007-07-17 08:05PM | 0 recs
Re: paraphrasing my thoughts from the other thread

and you sound too pro-Hillary to be objective...

by rapcetera 2007-07-17 08:20PM | 0 recs
heard a story about Birch Bayh once

He was a senator from Indiana in the 1970s (he is the father of Evan Bayh). He was swept away in the Reagan landslide of 1980. Reagan won Indiana that year by an enormous margin of about 400,000 votes (56-37 over Carter).

After his loss, Bayh was asked what he would have done differently in his campaign if he'd known that Reagan was going to win Indiana by 400,000 votes. He said, "I'd have taken the year off." The point being, there was just no hope that he could overcome Carter's drag on the ticket in 1980.

Ticket splitting still occurs, but from what I have read it is in decline. We've got Democratic House reps and senators who depend on a certain percentage of voters supporting them despite casting votes for the Republican presidential candidate.

If the Republican carries a state by an overwhelming margin on the presidential line of the ballot, it gets very hard for some of our Democrats to win. If Kerry had been more competitive in SD, Daschle probably would still be in the Senate.

I find it incredible that you and other Hillary supporters deny that she would harm our down-ticket candidates in a lot of red and purple states.

by desmoinesdem 2007-07-17 09:02PM | 0 recs
What is laughable

is that yu accuse others of being biased when you have never written anything negative about Hillary and refuse to acknowledge her unfavorable numbers among the general population.

You are one of the most consistentely partisan posters on this site.

Myself, I have critized Obama and defended Hillary. Not often, but every now and then where it has seemed like the right thing to do.

by Populism2008 2007-07-18 09:39AM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

I would say that if voter;s un-decided's have not gone with Clinton by now, then they are most likely to support someone else.

I believe that this shows fluidity and the IA caucus winner will get a huge boost for the NH primary.

by BDM 2007-07-17 07:42PM | 0 recs
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I don't see why asking NH voters to play pundit has any bearing.  Voters can only credibly speak to their own interests; they can't predict what others will do.

by Adam B 2007-07-18 05:33AM | 0 recs
Nope

NH isn't liberal - it is small government, low taxes, keep the government out of my bedroom.  It is not Massachusetts or NY.

by nascardem 2007-07-17 06:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Nope

AKA they are libertarians?

Socially Liberal
Fiscally Conservative
?

by JeremiahTheMessiah 2007-07-17 07:00PM | 0 recs
maybe not liberal

but probably less sexist when it comes to electing women to high office. And the GOP is on life support in the northeast now, so I'm not surprised people in the northeast have fewer concerns about Hillary's electability.

by desmoinesdem 2007-07-17 08:04PM | 0 recs
Re: maybe not liberal

Obama will win New Hampshire easily, if he's this close in the polls now. The indie voter really has no other candidate that makes scense and they will vote in huge numb ers with the interest this primary will have, Hillary better hope those voters find the GOP field more interesting than they do now.

by nevadadem 2007-07-17 08:07PM | 0 recs
you assume too much

The independent has no other candidate who makes sense? I totally disagree. There is an opening for Obama, but independents will have plenty of other options. I would think that both Richardson and Edwards could appeal to indies, and so could a longshot like Biden or Dodd if they came up with a surprise in Iowa.

by desmoinesdem 2007-07-17 09:05PM | 0 recs
Re: maybe not liberal

"fewer concerns about Hillary's electability"?  

That makes no sense.  The opposite in fact is true.  NH voters (Democrats and Democratic-leaning Independents) believe by an overwhelming margin that Clinton would be the best candidate to win the general election.  They have "concerns" about Obama's and Edwards' ability to do so, but basically none when it comes to Clinton.   I think the reality is such that you will find that this question will show itself over and over in other states with the strong affirmative for Clinton in the GE fitness, even in states like Iowa.  I wonder what you will say when you see the same answers there?

by georgep 2007-07-17 08:25PM | 0 recs
let me try to explain it to you again

Do you deny that American political culture is somewhat different in different parts of the country? As in, attitudes in the northeast do not necessarily reflect those in other parts of the country?

The Republican Party is in worse shape in NH than it is in many other states we will need to carry in 2008.

So pardon me if I'm not convinced by the 47 percent of NH residents who think Hillary is the best candidate to take on the Republicans. They might want to talk to Democrats in places like Colorado and New Mexico and South Dakota and Louisiana to find out if they are eager to face the voters with Hillary at the top of the ticket.

by desmoinesdem 2007-07-17 09:09PM | 0 recs
Re: let me try to explain it to you again

So they will.   Will you consider that you may be simply wrong if voters in those states voice the same sentiments?   I totally reject as utterly ridiculous the arrogant fake-superiority of an "Ah, they are all just dumb" dismissal of the collective Democratic voter community, so please don't go where some others apparently are willing to go because they don't get their personal wish.  

by georgep 2007-07-18 08:23AM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

Its not serious for Edwards to continue to participate in the debates. He is fighting to say ahead of Biden! Come on!

Let the heavyweights debate!

by lafinur 2007-07-17 07:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

This poll is really good news for Clinton because it shows the race splintering into 3 non-Clinton candidates. If Richardson finishes in 3rd ahead of Obama in Iowa and 3rd in NH ahead of Edwards that puts Clinton in an even better position that previous polls have shown.

by robliberal 2007-07-17 07:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

Rob WHAT A SPIN. tHE LAST (3) NH polls shows Clinton's lead in single digits.

I could spin the winner of IA as any of the top (30 candidates , then taking NH. Especially with 64% OF THE VOTERS SAYING THEY COULD CHANGE THEIR MIND OR AS REALLY BEING UN-DECIDED'S.

by BDM 2007-07-17 07:45PM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

No, it is you who is spinning like an old record player.   All the time you claim that Intrade is the only thing to look at, to dismiss all polls.  Now you have changed your tune and dismiss Intrade's 55% to 25% prediction?   Shows how serious you are here when you flip-flop around with such ease.  

by georgep 2007-07-17 08:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

1.  You watch for general trends in polls.  The last 3 polls have ALL shown a trend UP for Obama and a trend DOWN for Hillary.  That's noteworthy.  

2.  Intrade.  The thing you are failing to see with intrade is that Hillary is at the lowest point in her campaign so far for New Hampshire on intrade.  Obama is in between his highest point and lowest point in New Hampshire right now.  (Wavered between 20-28, sitting at 25 now).  

So you were 1.  Spinning how BDM/Obamaniacs are using the polls.  2.  Spinning what Intrade tells us.  

by JeremiahTheMessiah 2007-07-17 08:17PM | 0 recs
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WOW! the HRC inevitability team can spin anything ....they even use Walter Mondale as an example about how stupid dems could be in nominating the "establishment" candidate, now Hillarys is viewed as the most "electable" by dems even though she has way more people saying they would never support her, it's becuase people like the HRC team and the right wing pundits have made sort of a deal to give the GOP a shot in this election....they will help the Clinton machine in the primary and convince the "low info" HRC supporters that she stands a good chance of winning the general and then immediately go to war upon the nomination, the good news is Obama has the money, the enthusianstic supporters and the ability to break through this charade.

by nevadadem 2007-07-17 08:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

You are just sore that Clinton has a gigantic lead in your state after you stated that not a single person in that state actually likes her.      

by georgep 2007-07-17 08:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

You're still spinning.  Clinton has a significant lead that is at it's lowest point right now in New Hampshire.  In both POLLS and INTRADE.  So no matter where you look, time is looking good for us.  

by JeremiahTheMessiah 2007-07-17 08:18PM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

Are you trying to tell me that Clinton's current THIRTY percent lead on Obama on the INTRADE site is her LOW point?   It is currently 50.1% to 20%.   You are actually SERIOUS here?   Intrade is predicting an absolute blowout of Obama in New Hampshire.  You can't spin that.  You can't spin a THIRTY PERCENT margin.   That would be insane.  

by georgep 2007-07-18 08:27AM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

My mistake.  I was still on New Hampshire.  As for Nevada, Hillary is at her lowest point on Intrade and Obama is at his highest point so far in the campaign on intrade.  Spin that for us.  

by JeremiahTheMessiah 2007-07-17 08:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

I have to add that Nevada has only been on Intrade since the beginning of July*  My mistake.  

by JeremiahTheMessiah 2007-07-17 08:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

So, yes, Nevada.  INTRADE has Nevada at 70% Clinton and 15% Obama.  Another absolute blowout predicted by INTRADE.  As you believe in INTRADE you have to believe that they are seeing Clinton topping every state they have in their listings, except for South Carolina.  

by georgep 2007-07-18 08:30AM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

Oh please! I could show you another poll where Clinton has 52% favorable rating among the public. I could show you a poll where Clinton beats Giuliani in Ohio, Arkansas and gives us a fighting chance in Virginia and Florida. I can also give you another poll showing Obama with a 54% favorable rating, and another poll where is losses in Ohio and Florida and struggles in New York. New York for crying out loud! Get the picture? The Clinton electability issue is mute. Denying is going to get Republicans in trouble. Don't take me for some Clinton supporter. I like Clinton, I won't mind voting for her, but you need to understand the race before making the Clinton is not electable argument. Don't forget, Clinton has 110% name ID. Everyone has an opinion of her. Obama and all the other candidates are developing candidates.

by RJGajadhar 2007-07-17 08:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

You make a good point.  You can get polls that tell you anything, which is why the key is to watching a general trend in polls.  Usually being able to show similar trends from different polling outlets.  Etc.  

One source when it comes to polls is a bad idea.  

by JeremiahTheMessiah 2007-07-17 08:35PM | 0 recs
if Clinton's lead in NH is in single digits

come January, she could easily lose to someone coming out of Iowa with momentum.

The scenario you lay out is the best-case for her (other than winning Iowa).

But if Edwards and either Richardson or Obama finish ahead of Hillary in Iowa, it would be a big blow to her candidacy.

by desmoinesdem 2007-07-17 08:06PM | 0 recs
Problem with this is

It cant be Edwards....Even if Edwards hangs on by an inch in Iowa, i dont think the boost will be large enough to make up about 25 points to the front runner.

Edwards needs to close he gap in NH.

I think Obama is the only person at this moment that could beat Hillary if he wins Iowa...Not only that, but Obama will have enough money to dictate the pace of the race.

Hillary could easily survive an Edwards Iowa wins, as long as he's currently polling in the low teens in NH...The Iowa boost is worth 10-14 point and this wont be enough to overtake Clinton.

by JaeHood 2007-07-17 08:52PM | 0 recs
I mostly agree with that

I think Edwards needs a fairly convincing victory over Clinton in Iowa. Also, he needs to bring up his support in NH a little before January. But if he is very strong in Iowa and Clinton is in third or lower, he could easily bounce enough to win or be a close second in NH.

A scenario that concerns me would be Hillary as a strong second place in Iowa. I think she could ride that out, especially if Obama ends up third or fourth.

by desmoinesdem 2007-07-17 09:13PM | 0 recs
Edwards is dead in the water

I can't believe we are even discussing his chances. He's the Democratic version of McCain. Finished. The race is between Hillary and Obama.

by Populism2008 2007-07-18 09:43AM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

do you guys really believe tha stuff? I really wonder?

by nevadadem 2007-07-17 08:09PM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

I'm commenting on Rob proclaiming it's "good news" that her lead is down or whateve1

by nevadadem 2007-07-17 08:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

They have to spin to keep up the mantra of inevitability for Hillary. This comes right from Clinton Head quarter's.

by BDM 2007-07-17 08:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

No kidding.  Don't let georgep try to misrepresent what is going on on Intrade.  

by JeremiahTheMessiah 2007-07-17 08:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll
as for Edwards, honestly I like him so I try to keep my opinions aboout his chances as objective as possable but he simply is not going to eb the nominee, he may have the best policies and proposals of all the candidates but it's irrelevant, his race and gender is probably the reason why he has virtually no chance of winning, asking the democratic electorate to pass on one really strong non-white male candidate would be possable but they are not passing up 2 with atleast 3  times as much money and organization for a failed candidate from 2004. It's just not going to happen even if he wins Iowa whoever emerges either Hillary or Obama will crush him in the big states. Now that the "Gore thinbg really looks like a non-starter to me it's obvious it's going to be Hillary or Obama vs most likely Fred Tor Romney, although you still have to give Rudy somewhat of an outside shot especially if "terror"
becomes more of issue than it is now.
by nevadadem 2007-07-17 09:04PM | 0 recs
no offense, nevadadem, but

how old are you? Are you old enough to have followed the last campaign closely?

You are taking a lot of things for granted. The race may look quite different by the time anyone goes to vote. The polls were deadly for Kerry all through the late summer and autumn of 2003.

by desmoinesdem 2007-07-17 09:16PM | 0 recs
Re: no offense, nevadadem, but

I'm not offended I'm 30 but I don't think the last campaign was similar, the dem race then was like the GOP's now, a bunch of guys who had big flaws looking for a nomination to most likely lose the general election, Hillary is Hillary and I think she's the worst of the "big 3" but her nomination while not inevitable will be impossable for Edwards to stop, Obama on the other hand denies her near total minority support which she would have aginst Edwards and appeals to voters who frankly wouldn't bother picking between Edwards and Hillary, yes I think the race and gender thing is a big hinderance for Edwards this year among the primary electorate, and in addition Edwards doesn't play well in New Hampshire, where the dem base is not an economic populist one so any momentum from Iowa would be stopped cold.

by nevadadem 2007-07-17 09:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

In regards to INTRADE:   You CAN'T misrepresent a 30% Clinton lead over Obama in NH (50.1% to 20%.)  You simply can't.  You CAN'T misrepresent a 50% for Clinton in Florida (Clinton leads 70.1% to 20% here.)   You CAN'T misrepresent a 50% lead for Clinton in Nevada.   If you guys believe in INTRADE so much, you have to take the bad with the good, and it obviously shows a a lot of bad  for the Hillary-detractors (heck, even Iowa is going Clinton, according to the INTRADE people.)

by georgep 2007-07-18 08:34AM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

On RCP Clinton has an 11.2% lead in NH in the poll averages. Her support has remained constant in the polls for NH for over 6 months. Obama has remained in second place in the high teens to 20s. What has changed is that Richardson now has momentum and Edwards is losing ground rapidly in NH as he is in other states. Edwards is now barely ahead of Richardson in the RCP averages.

by robliberal 2007-07-17 09:43PM | 0 recs
Republican Dissatisfaction

Adding new and improved candidates to the Republican field will not decrease the dissatisfaction of Republican primary voters.  Dissatisfaction with the field is in the end merely a symptom for dysfunctional Republican government and the bankruptcy of right wing ideas.

We are witnessing the collapse of spin.  Unfortunately, the spin machine, although discredited, remains in place.

If personalities motivate the Republican base at all then it will be their distaste for some of the Democratic candidates.

by Hellmut 2007-07-18 06:30AM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on polls in general
Isn't mincing poll numbers that are 6 months from the primary a lot like staring at static on a TV and saying you see a pattern? Or looking at cloud formations: "I see a teacup" "No, it's an elephant" "No, I definitely see a sailboat" Meanwhile, as we stare up at the sky and try to interpret meaningless numbers, bigger problems that require our attention pass idly by on the reality-filled terra firma.
by cesar 2007-07-18 08:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

Ron Paul is the excitement factor that you are ignoring. Of those 27% unhappy, many of those votes are for Ron, but are not registered because pollster do NOT ASK.

Ron just won the first straw poll in NH by 65%

1.  Ron Paul has almost as much net cash on hand as Mitt Romney (to get that number, you deduct the $9 million of debt that the Romney campaign owes).

2.  Ron Paul has been the number one most searched person on the entire blogosphere for the last three months straight per http://www.technorati.com

3.  Ron Paul has 530 Meetup groups, more than 4 times as many volunteers as Obama, 22 times more volunteers than Hillary, and hundreds of times more volunteers than Giuliani or Romney, per Meetup.com.  In addition, new Ron Paul volunteers is growing at a rate of 36 times faster than Obama, and 96 times faster than Hillary as documented at:

http://www.meetup.com/topics/polact/cand pres

4.  Liberty is popular and honesty is popular.  Ron Paul leads in polls of people who have heard him speak.  And it is still 5 months before the primaries, so there is still plenty of time for people who haven't yet heard Ron Paul's message to hear it.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/haman1. html

Ron Paul is very impressive.  He has support all over the US.  I think it is impossible to calculate how much he "has on hand". Check out just a few things people have done across the country:

Bill Board paid for by RP supporters:
http://dailypaul.com/node/729

Ron Paul 100 days, 100 signs:
http://dailypaul.com/node/721

Ron Paul July 3rd, 2007 overnight:
http://tinyurl.com/yoalv3

KOTV reports on Ron Paul signs all over:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bm7BfyIPjeA

Folks, there is a quiet revolution.  Be prepared for liberty!

PS: If you missed Ron Paul at google, it was awesome. Ron Paul impressed the moderator! More Ron Paul supporters?

Video of Ron @google: http://youtube.com/watch?v=yCM_wQy4YVg

Quote of typical supporter:
"I am a liberal democrat. I personally have given his campaign $350.00. Handed out hundreds of flyers, spent dozens of hours blogging and working on websites. Spent over a hundred dollars and hours of time on banner making. Not to mention going out on foot to the meet-ups and spreading the good word.  If you add up the grassroots effort Dr Paul would have to have spent 20 or 30 million so far".

Read many similar comments on this page:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2 007/07/16/272259.aspx?CommentPosted=true #commentmessage

"Ron Paul is the `hottest' GOP candidate at the moment."
http://www.etherzone.com/2007/lebo071707 .shtml

Ron's Google interview got twice as many viewers in 3 days than Hillary's in 4 months.

by NH4RP 2007-07-18 12:16PM | 0 recs
Re: Thoughts on the CNN New Hampshire Poll

Obama doesn't use meetup, he has his own social networking built within his site, so it's remarkable that he's even in 2nd place on that outside site

by Max Fletcher 2007-07-18 03:39PM | 0 recs

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