Chris Matthews's Terrible Horrible No Good Very Bad Day

Earlier today, Jonathan brought us word of the audience revolt against Chris Matthews's question to Hillary Clinton at the AFSCME Presidential Forum as to whether she would have a problem were Scooter Libby pardoned. But there's nothing like seeing it and hearing it yourself. Huffington Post has the video and it's definitely cringe-worthy must-see viewing. How does Hillary manage to come off as the reasonable one when she's essentially just ducking a question?

So, OK, Matthews's day didn't start off so hot. But then he went to do his real job, hosting Hardball and lo and behold a show that was meant to be about his moderating the AFSCME forum turned into virtually all Mike Bloomberg all the time once his announcement hit, so much so that Chris had to cut away to a previously aired (and lame-ass) Brian Williams interview with the mayor. Well, in a candid moment of frustration, Matthews uttered the following (clearly directed not at us but to an unseen other):

We're all reacting here and putting on shit, we have nothing...

Whoopsie...Yes, Crooks and Liars has it.

Matthews later repented:

I apologize for that, I shouldn't have used that word on the air, I didn't think I was. Things are breaking around here, we're trying to get the story on the air.

Actually Chris, no need to apologize, it WAS shit. More deification of the so-called virtuous middle. Democrats talk about healthcare, the environment and gun control and the media yawns, but put an R next to their name, suddenly they're bold mavericks bucking the status quo in Washington. Give me a break.

This media fascination we're seeing with Bloomberg is something we've experienced in California for a year or so now ever since Schwarzenegger launched his version, what is it now, 3.0, the post-partisan. Dday and Brian at calitics, Cali bloggers both, capture the frustration we all feel well. As for the rest of you, welcome to our world.

Tags: Chris Matthews, Hardball, Media (all tags)

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Not really a R

Perhaps the most revealing part of this is that Bloomberg is only a Republican because he couldn't get the primary nod as NYC mayor for the Democrats. Before that he was a lifelong Democrat and his policy positions are almost all to the left of most national level Dems (though that might be damning with faint praise).

by splinterbrain 2007-06-20 03:42AM | 0 recs
I think Mike

Seen the three way polling with him in the race?  I like Mike a whole lot.  He basically would throw the election to Democrats right from the get go.

by dpANDREWS 2007-06-20 04:11AM | 0 recs
Matthews couldn't have been happy

I think he would have rather covered the Democratic candidates forum, which of course he moderated.  I think that would have made him much happier ("Howard do see how I asked that question ...").

The Bloomberg story just wasn't that big to get almost wall to wall coverage on Hardball.  The producers screwed up.

by dpANDREWS 2007-06-20 04:10AM | 0 recs
Re: Chris Matthews's Terrible Horrible No Good Ver
As much as I wanna follow the liberal herd on this one, I find nothing wrong with asking Hillary about her thoughts of a possible Libby pardon. Republicans are the ones that think this case is not a big deal. We think outing one of our secret agents working on WMD is a very serious matter, and I want to know if Hillary opposes the imminent pardon.
I am totally lost as I try to find an answer as to why the crowd heckled Mathews, who is a media-whore, granted, but again, the question was a normal one.
by kingsbridge77 2007-06-20 04:12AM | 0 recs
for all we know

the "crowd" was 3 Hillary people who weren't even in AFSCME.

Matthews on his show through out whether they were "plants".

it seems like a very easy question to answer.

I thought the left loved Fitzgerald.

by TarHeel 2007-06-20 04:21AM | 0 recs
Re: for all we know

It would be even funnier if they were plants.  I feel no sorrow for Tweety.  The only thing I wish is that Punkin Head could get the same treatment.

by Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle 2007-06-20 07:34AM | 0 recs
Re: for all we know

Chris thinks he's a man of the people by doing these things. The treatment he gets at those college tour shows may have given him a false sense of his own popularity.

by zappatero 2007-06-20 10:12AM | 0 recs
Re: for all we know

I am sure the college shows are a stacked deck .. if you boo or anything .. you'll probably get tossed out .. it's like all those idiots that watch Mad Money

by Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle 2007-06-20 12:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Bloomberg

Personally, I think "Mayor Mike" only runs if Hillary gets the nomination.  That's the only way he can possibly win - plenty of disaffected people across the spectrum who don't want a continuation of the Bush era, but can't stomach Hillary.

He would clearly have a better shot at my state's EVs than Hillary would.  Thus, I'd probably vote for him.

I would also have no problem with a full Dem Congress and President Bloomberg.  We would like his judges, and I don't see him vetoing any of our priority legislation.  I bet he would run for re-election on the Dem ticket.

by NC State Dem 2007-06-20 05:20AM | 0 recs
Re: Bloomberg

That's true. It was stated as much. He would not enter if Obama got the nod because Obama already has what would be Bloomberg's Base. Disgruntled Republicans , Independents and Progressives against Hillary.

Bloomberg would need perceived rabids from both sides of the aisle in order to enter and take all those in the middle. Obama already has those in the middle and when he gets the nod, he will have the Democrats who vowed to support whoever won regardless of whether or not it's their choice candidate.

Bloomberg would be most effective if the race were Hillary or Edwards on the Left and Romney or Mc Cain on the right.

He may be discouraged from entering with Guiliani on the right and Obama on the Left.

by ObamaEdwards2008 2007-06-20 05:41AM | 0 recs
I busted up

I knew it when I first heard it that it was going to be posted. I laughed so hard and then said to myself,

"Well, shet. He's right"

by ObamaEdwards2008 2007-06-20 05:34AM | 0 recs
Re: Chris Matthews's Terrible Horrible No Good Ver


Good for Hillary... she expertly worked that in her favor.

She's far from my top choice.. but damn she's good.

by jgkojak 2007-06-20 06:50AM | 0 recs
Re: Chris Matthews's Terrible Horrible No Good Ver

Nice work by Hillary.

All of the candidates need to take it to these pundits and throw their stupid question back in their faces.

by Aeolus 2007-06-20 06:54AM | 0 recs
Re: Chris Matthews's Terrible Horrible No Good Ver

No it wasn't stupid -- especially when her friend and looong time advisor Carville wants Libby to have no time -- does she agree with Carville?  How many other DLC'ers support Libby?

by SandThroughTheEyeGlass 2007-06-20 07:23AM | 0 recs
Re: Chris Matthews's Terrible Horrible No Good

The question was only stupid if the answer was obvious.  But by her response it appears the answer was not so obvious and Chris had a legitimate reason to ask.  

by Doug Dilg 2007-06-20 07:15AM | 0 recs
Re: Chris Matthews's Terrible Horrible No Good Ver
Hillary is not winning to please the netroots. She's running to win the election. Everybody (even her opponents) concede that she's running a very effective campaign. Rather than just recognizing that in general, let's examine this particular interaction. First, she knew that she would be asked about a pardon, in this forum or otherwise. And she planned an approach to deflect the question that could get the crowds behind her, which she achieved brilliantly. Why deflect? Well, if she does come out and say, "keep the SOB in jail and throw away the key," then she knows that, come next debate, a moderator is going to compare this pardon to her husband's pardons, and the whole thing will be a mess. So she works to deflect the issue now. You might not like her non-answer, but the AFSCME delegates -- a labor audience, majority female, with large numbers of Blacks and Latinos -- just ate it up. And Hillary's appeal to these audiences, plus her skill at avoiding traps, is why she is doing so well in the polls (even if many in the netroots don't like her.)
by markjay 2007-06-20 09:17AM | 0 recs
"centrism" = rejection of conservatism

As horsehit as this recent praising of and call for a return to the political center (i.e. of the Broder/Lieberman sort), one positive aspect of this is that it represents yet one more indication that conservatism as an ideology and political movement is dying if not dead among the general populace. These pundits may not have the courage and principle to genuinely embrace progressivism, still preferring to refer to it as the "far-left fringe", and its adherents as crazy hippies blogging in their pajamas. But in their embrace of phony centrism, they are, in effect, rejecting conservatism, in a sort of reverse-polarity triangulation. And that can't be a bad thing. They might not intend to, but in their own way they're moving the goalpost back towards the left. And it's up to us to move it even further leftward--and keep it there.

by kovie 2007-06-20 09:31AM | 0 recs
MSNBC last night

Far worse than Hardball scrapping their AFSCME coverage last night in favor of building up a Bloomberg candidacy was Keith Olberman trying to hype Obama's address at TBA as "going negative".  It was one thing to rightfully criticize the Punjab memo, but when Obama talking about how he opposed the War from the start is viewed as a negative attack, it's clear there's an editorial decision being made that is going to try to attach negative campaigning to any highlight of differences Obama makes.  This is especially disingenous when Obama doesn't even mention any other candidate and where intention is for positive action.  Here's the passage where Olberman accused Obama as going negative:


I am proud that I stood up in 2002 and urged our leaders not to take us down this dangerous path.  I've said it before and I'll say it again - this is a war that should've never been authorized and never been waged.  

So many of us knew this back then, even when it wasn't popular to say so.  

We knew back then this war was a mistake.  We knew back then that it was dangerous diversion from the struggle against the terrorists who attacked us on September 11th. We knew back then that we could find ourselves in an occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences.  

But the war went forward.  And now, we've seen those consequences and we mourn for the dead and wounded.  

by Doug Dilg 2007-06-20 11:19AM | 0 recs

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