Called. Thanks for the heads-up. You gonna crosspost this at dKos, et al?

The biggest mistake that Democrats have made since the 2004 election was voting for Steny Hoyer over Jack Murtha.  Hoyer had a long history of sticking it to Pelosi and other top Democrats.  He was never part of "the winning team" but the most selfish guy on the Hill.  He did a nice job of fund-raising in 2006 but other than that is a consistent drag.  The money he brings to the table is not enough to balance the rest of his act.

"Vietnamization" all over again.

Just.  Get.  Out.

The problem with guys like Hoyer is that they don't have the pulse of America. They are always like general's fighting the last war.

They had to be dragged screaming and kicking to make the 2006 election about Iraq and their change of policy. Now they are willing to cave into Bush aqnd the corporate media spin so that they don't have to get into a bruising fight over the change of policy. What they don't realize is that by doing that they now also take responsibility for the war with no political benefit. They have let down the American people by not forcing a new policy to get out of the quagmire. They will pay a price in 2008 - but it probably doesn't matter to them as they are with the DC cocktail circuit crowd.

According to the State Department, terrorist attacks in Iraq are up 770% since 2004.

2004: est. 866 terrorist attacks

2005. est. 3500 terrorist attacks
      
2006. est. 6685 terrorist attacks

I think Steny Hoyer thinks with 10,000 attacks we get a free toaster or something.

Here's Hoyer hedging against Murtha from last week in The Hill:

Looking ahead to a post-veto Iraq spending bill, appropriators are looking at either a two-month or five-month bill, and House Defense Appropriations Chairman John Murtha (D-Pa.) said Thursday he thinks one can be passed in two weeks. [...]

Many senators, as well as House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), say they're not inclined to support a two-month supplemental. "There are a lot of ideas being discussed, and Mr. Hoyer personally feels that at this time he doesn't see that particular option moving forward," said Hoyer spokeswoman Stacey Farnen Bernards.

Hoyer and Emmanuel are reverting back to their jelly-spined ways on Iraq. They want 'the issue' for '08 and would rather throw good lives on top of the pile of the lost instead of working to end the Iraq occupation ASAP. It's pathetic.

so why aren't you supporting Reid-Feingold, and why did you support this supplemental in the first place?

Reading the full article, I'm not seeing how Hoyer is indicating that he is "caving to Bush", as any Bill that has "consequences" in it, as Hoyer mentioned, is going to be vetoed again by Bush, because he wants to stay in Iraq forever. Is Matt assuming that Hoyer is "caving to Bush" because he's talking to GOP'ers about alternative bills?

Murtha's two month appropriation certainly seems to me to be a reasonable resolution of this "impasse", but there may be other alternatives; lets wait to see what Hoyer and others propose before preemptively demonizing them.

Send the same bill with $1 less in funding or 1 day earlier withdrawal date. If he vetoes that, do it again ... sooner or later even complete idiots get the point.

Hoyer is bad news and he has way too much power.

If the progressives don't target dem leadership in a more direct and sustained way this kind of stuff will go on forever.

This must be the anti-Hoyer story of the month! Kinda early, no? BTW, are we Dems now against any compromise with the president? Aren't we the pro-diplomacy crowd?

"If the progressives don't target dem leadership"
OMG! Pelosi-Hoyer has been a winner the past 3 years! What 99% of Dems voting with their caucus isn't good enough for us? Didn't we used to chastize the GOP for group think?

Send the bill back. I wrote a diary about why.

 ...is that he, at heart, loves this war. Genuinely gets a rush and a thrill from it.

 Hoyer's a good, reliable Democrat on most domestic issues, and I think he's well aware that the polls show that the public wants this war to END, but he just enjoys the killing too much for to act on pulling the plug on the war. It's more a personal thing than a political thing. He's in a safe seat, so he has little to lose by acting that way.

  Democrats like Hoyer have their value, but they shouldn't be allowed anywhere near leadership positions. Unfortunately that ship's been sailed...

I am sorry, but Hoyer is a spineless, capitulating wuss.  He's history.  He's part of the old-guard Democrat that has no balls against the new, mean, take-no-prisoners, Rove Republican Party.  

Guys like Hoyer are stuck in the by-gone era of moderate, sensible Republicans.  They don't exist anymore and Hoyer's ass better get with the program.

Hoyer never served in the military during Viet Nam, but he has no qualms about sending other people off to die in a futile war.
Hoyer is a disgrace to all Marylanders.
His suport of the Bankruptcy act and his conlusion with the K street lobbyists is disgraceful and indecent.