Open Thread

Tell the world what is on your mind.

Also, the "short leash" Iraq Accountability Act just passed the House, 221-205. We actually picked up three votes from last time. It is slow, but it is progress. It is also worth noting that of the ten Democrats who still voted against it, eight are in the out of Iraq caucus. So much for the vote on HR 2237 being part of any deal to pick up progressive votes.

Tags: Open Threads (all tags)



Re: Open Thread

From skimming through the roll call...the only Democrats voting "No" are No-Funds-At-Any-Cost people...Kucinich, et al. Except for Tanner who is a Blue Dog.

Even Marshall, Barrow, and Taylor voted for it.

by need some wood 2007-05-10 04:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Open Thread
Look like we noticed that at almost exactly the same time, considering the changes I made to my post. :)
by Chris Bowers 2007-05-10 04:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Open Thread

who is this Michaud dude and why is he a Democrat?  Isn't he from, like, a blue state???

by jgarcia 2007-05-10 04:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Open Thread

He's a de facto member of the Out of Iraq Caucus.  He's also a Blue Dog, but he opposes all these bills from the left, not the right.

by texas dem 2007-05-10 04:31PM | 0 recs
Re: Open Thread

okay, cool.  thanks.

by jgarcia 2007-05-10 04:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Open Thread

He voted against habeus corpus, last year.

by BingoL 2007-05-10 04:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Open Thread

Can someone fight through the pork on this bill and tell me where the oil law legislation, and other benchmarks are noted?

by SandThroughTheEyeGlass 2007-05-10 04:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Open Thread

i gave it a try (just a skim, there was 202 pages!) and posted my summary on an fdl thread... would very much like some other eyes on this...

it's probably too long a comment to include here... so instead, here's the link: -withdrawal/#comment-684760

by selise 2007-05-10 06:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Open Thread

Man, you are not joking about the pork. Take a look at Section 1330 in the bill, it deals with what the Iraqis have to do as far as security, section 1330 (2), which I've copied below, deals with what the Iraqi gov't must do.  Unless I missed it, I didn't see anything else specific to the transfer of control  of the oil to international entities(Exxon).  I'm wondering though if this has to do with having the Iraqis ratify their constitution(per Art.137), which would then give the federal gov't authority to negotiate and sign international treaties and agreements per Article 110 of the Iraq Constitution.  Interesting  possibility.  Hope this helps.

Section 1330(2)

(2) whether the Government of Iraq has--

(A) enacted a broadly accepted hydro-carbon law that equitably shares oil revenues among all Iraqis;

(B) adopted legislation necessary for the conduct of provincial and local elections, taken steps to implement such legislation, and set a schedule to conduct provincial and local elections;

(C) reformed current laws governing the de-Baathification process to allow for more equitable treatment of individuals affected by such laws;

(D) amended the Constitution of Iraq consistent with the principles contained in article 137 of such Constitution; and

(E) allocated and begun expenditure of $10 billion in Iraqi revenues for reconstruction projects, including delivery of essential services, on an equitable basis.

by Kingstongirl 2007-05-10 06:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Open Thread

Thanks == I will try and read tomorrow with fresh eyes...

by SandThroughTheEyeGlass 2007-05-10 08:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Open Thread

Anyone more knowledgeable have information on the prospects in the Senate?

by Sam L 2007-05-10 04:44PM | 0 recs
Just curious

what are the conditions/ restraints on this bill?

by okamichan13 2007-05-10 05:32PM | 0 recs


Advertise Blogads