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Will none of them agree with Reid, that the war is lost?

Kucinich doing Obama's dirty work?

I really liked Dodds line 'This is a failed Policy, our troops have been heroic'.

Kuch, Richardson, and Dodd are making HRC seem to be the most cautious and conservative.

Bold statement from Richardson.  Seems like he's making a serious effort to play to the anti-war base.

ground troops, and now CLinton agrees????

did he just say that, What's his plan?

It seemed like Obama fumbled the first 2 questions, but his response on the 3rd (ethics) seemed spot on.  

i hope hillary and obama supporters are watching this and realize how god awful they both are and look elsewhere.

Blow-dried candidates? Wow... Edwards should get a rebuttal after that one.

Richardson looks at times uncomfortable, tired, and bored.

These questions pull no punches.  They have hit all candidates hard.  I like it.

Does Dennis ACTUALLY think he will gain traction or is that just posturing... surely he can't think he will be a top or second tier candidate?

Can you reasure your voters,

One word answer - yes,

most laughs so far

crazy I tell you

Wow, going after Biden for the verbal gaffe... Great answer though!

Can we turn off the max posting rule for the debate thread... if Matt, Chris, Jerome, et al are reading... please?

Gravel's pushing the buttons now!

I am considering becoming a Gravel partisan.  

I thought Obama really, really nailed that abortion answer.  I think that might have been the best answer of the night from any candidate thus far.  He really does seem to have an ability to transcend these divisive issues--at least rhetorically.

yikes....

Obama is fumbling and Clinton looks visibly uncomfortable.  Dodd and Biden are a couple of idiots.  Come on John Edwards.

Gee, Big Surprise, Dodd, that Roberts lied about abortion precident.  We all called it last year.  

So far, I haven't seen anyone give a killer blow or really rise above the others.  Of course, I have enjoyed Gravel's answers a lot.

backround checks didn't work

on either side?

yikes

make you rethink you position.

Vast majority of gun owners are law abiding.
Those with mental illness can't get a gun

WEll, how is he going to get guns out of the hands of those who already have them?????

Richardson's gun answer was pretty passionate.  Almost as much when he talks about Foreign Policy.

Democrats always think of raising taxes first? Come on!

Gravel - wow.

Biden is Biden as usual, apart from the one-word answer. Richardson looks really uncomfortable - shifting around, seems like he can't hear Williams or something, and he has the lead in annoying hand gestures.

The other thing I was going to say - if anyone caught the pre-debate show, they had Brokaw on saying some crap along the lines of "the people don't want anymore partisan politics"... typical Lieberman-ish beltway media BS. Why is it these idiots only trot out that tired line when it's Democrats they're talking about? Americans don't give a shit if politicians are partisan or bipartisan - what they want is to fix the problems in the government and restore fairness and justice in this country. Tom Brokaw, I respect you, but as Bart Simpson would say "Get bent, sir."

Interesting that Clinton and Obama keep calling each other by their first names.

Richardson is the strongest presidential candidate, by far, at least if people voted on substance and not style.  

He has executive and foreign policy experience that most of the other Democratic candidates lack, and has stronger crossover appeal to independents and disaffected Republicans (who can't knock him for his tax record and 2nd Amendment positions.)

Good answer on Big Mistakes by Obama, Biden, Edwards, Dodd...

I could have sworn I just heard Edwards answer that he was wrong to vote for the war and from that mistake, he learned to better trust his judgement.  I must have missed something...

Great question about science and engineering education. And a decent answer from Biden - pay the teachers.

Biden was impressive in his answer on America's enemies. Maybe he would be a good secretary of state.

For President John Edwards that is

Why can't someone else have at least half the guts to say what Gravel is saying?

the war on terror is about as ridiculous as a war on jealousy

Good answer from Obama on the Two Cities attacked question...

Is it just me or did Clinton just endorse the Bush doctrine?

she said that she agreed with bush when he went after Afghanistan.

I can't see anything in Bill Richardson that would make me vote for him.  He is not presidential in my book.

he just nailed the response to kucinich's attack

Damn.  John jus fumbled that one.  He got the right answers but that pause was way uncomfortable.

I guess she doesn't believe in buying BLUE

Tentative conclusions: this debate changed little. Nobody won, everyone who mattered did OK, and nobody lost.

Richardson and Biden got some positive visibility, but nothing immense. Edwards did quite well, but sort of messed up his last answer. Obama seemed a little uncomfortable throughout, almost a little Kerry-like, but he knocked his last answer out of the park. Clinton was totally unmemorable, as was Dodd to a somewhat-surprising extent. Kuchinich and Gravel were, obviously, the spoilers.  

Best moment was Obama annihilating Kucinich, followed by Biden's one-word "yes" answer.