FYI: There is going to be a conference call this morning between Tom Collins and the Executive Board concerning the debate (cf.: Renodiscontent.com; lasvegasgleaner.com). No word if harry is included.

Matt or anyone else out there.....

Can someone please post an e-mail or web address for the appropriate person (s) in Hillary, Obama and Richardson's campaigns. We need to get those three to also drop out of the Fox debate. And plenty of us are happy to apply the pressure.  Just give us the tools. (And cross-post it on Kos!)

Thanks to Matt and so many others who have pushed hard on this fight. We need to enjoy whatever victories we get and keep pushing for more.

Doesn't he know he can't get your vote?

Just kidding; good job by both the netroots and Edwards.

 This old diary of mine seems relevant in this context.

 If we can see it at the grassroots, there no reason the leadership shouldn't be able to.

Oh btw, the deal is that Collins clearly violated the bylaws by engaging Fux. Bad boy! The real question is how many of the board will stand up and how many will go back into their prairie dog holes.

lasvegasgleaner.com is suggesting that the debate may come down to one of Hillary's faces debating the other.

Where is Obama on this one? Has he spoken out on whether he will attend the Madrassa Channel sponsored  Debate? Hmmmm I'm holding my breath here, what the delay?

This has the potential to be embarrassing for the Nevada Democratic Party, but Fox as a meganetwork will do what it does.

I'll bet Obama drops next, and then the little game is over.

Media control, in particular control of television chains is extraordinarily important for conservative power around the world. I'm not talking about business newspapers like Wall Street Journal, rather the low-brow, scandal sheets targetted at a popular, if not ignorant, audience. It seems like every country has a media mogul running newspapers with bare bosoms or TV stations with lurid crime coverage. At election time they are positioned with audience control to feed name recognition, attack ads and scare tactics. Germany, Italy, Brazil, it happens everywhere, and they are reasonably successfull at demonizing the left and getting extreme right wingers elected.

(Conservattive religious control is the obvious other power center that supports the right-wing the world over.)

But, they aren't omnipotent. It is a sign of VRWC weakness that they have to rely on lies and fear-mongering. Sometimes the facts just get in the way, and that is our strength.

More important is to force the rest of the media to stay balanced and factual. Call them on their distortions. The VLWC is much, much bigger than the right wing if we count all the honest intellectuals, the working scientists and researchers. We don't have to fund so many left-wing think tanks, because reality is on our side. Maybe we just fund media watch-dogs and organizations to easily diseminate information.... we could call them blogs.

As Matt says, we need to confront the Fox news and the right-wing media here. It is a rare and sweet victory when a direct challenge like this wins. Let's look for many more!

I wonder sometimes what John Edwards would really do for America. His ability to find the right path here impresses me greatly.

Matt and team My DD,

Good for Team Edwards! Kudos. They are now my front runner for 2008.

The real solution to the Fox News propaganda machine is to threaten to revoke foreign ownership of media companies. If Newt Gingrich hadn't open the door for this we wouldn't be here. Coincidence that he gets so much air play on that network?

Fox is not accountable precisely because their ownership is not US based. I think we've all had enough of their BS at this point. How would Fox fight this on the air? They going to stand up for Foreign Ownership of their network to an audience that opposed immigration? Let them wast energy doing this.

They have not been serving the public interest for some time. It is questionable that if they ever really did. Even if ownership is not revoked across the board, Fox has to pay price for having explicitly chosen the wrong side.

You know, Edwards often surprises me by doing something like this that's more courageous than I normally expect from politicians. Then it hits me. "Oh yeah. It's John Edwards. Why in the world would I be surprised?" In short, I should just stop being surprised when Edwards does the right thing. That seems to be just the kind of guy he is.

Obama has already cut off Faux for the madrassa story.  He won't have anything to do with them, debate or no.  

"Fox is not accountable precisely because their ownership is not US based."

Didn't Murdock takeup American citizenship some time ago? (Amid great fanfare and patriotic music)

I believe he also became a British citizen when his 'interests' moved there from Australia. he became more British than his 'bud', "Maggy".

Now he waves a flag with stripes rather than crosses, but still promotes the same 'ol, same 'ol.