Indiecrats Want to Cut Defense Spending

We're spending a lot of money on the military industrial complex.  

For FY 2008, the Bush administration has requested $647.3 billion to cover the costs of national defense and war. This includes the Defense Department budget ($483 billion), some smaller defense-related accounts ($22.6 billion), and the projected FY 2008 cost of Iraq, Afghanistan, and counter-terror operations ($141.7 billion). However, it does not include non-DOD expenditures for homeland security ($36.4 billion) or the Veterans' Affairs budget ($84.4 billion). Nor does it include the request for supplemental funds for outstanding FY 2007 war costs ($93.4 billion).

The $647.3 billion request represents a 75 percent real increase over the post-Cold War low-point in national defense spending, which occurred in 1996. Today's expenditures are higher in inflation-adjusted terms than peak spending during the Vietnam and Korean wars -- as well as higher than during the Reagan buildup.2

That's over $850 billion on defense, on the books (which is probably above $1 trillion if you take off the books spending into account).  In other words, a large swath of the American economy is a socialist corporate welfare state for defense contractors and Republicans.

And Americans are noticing, according to Gallup.

The public's view that the federal government is spending too much on the military has increased substantially this year, to its highest level in more than 15 years. Gallup's annual World Affairs poll finds more than 4 in 10 Americans now saying the government is spending too much for national defense and the military. Despite this, in recent years, Americans have also become increasingly likely to say the nation's military is not strong enough, with slightly less than half currently expressing this sentiment. Republicans are slightly more likely than Democrats to say the country's military is currently not strong enough; Democrats are much more inclined to feel the government spends too much on the military.

It's mostly a partisan split, with one significant exception.

Notice how independents are basically aligned with Democrats on the question?  Look what else independents are aligned with Democrats on, from the latest data dump from Pew.

I wrote about this in 'Puncturing the Gunbelt'.  There really are two economies, and it's not just rich versus poor.  There's a militarized socialist economy composed of health care, finance, telecom, mainstream media, defense, aerospace, and large-scale agribusiness where the right-wing lives, and people there are largely doing great because the government has assumed all the risk while privatizing the rewards.  And then there's the rest of the economy, which is paying for all of it.  And that's where liberal Democrats and independents are living.  This is the reason populism sells for both Democrats and Independents at this point in history.

The good news is that there's a realignment here.  The slightly bad news is that I'm going to guess that Bush is not going to drop much below 30%.  And that's not because the right cares about any cultural value except 'more for me, less for you'.

(Oh, and if you want to know why it is that Beltway consultants don't 'get it', recognize that a lot of them are feeding off the right-wing centralized media economy and the wealth and stability it brings.  If they feel like parasites, it's because in a very real way they are.)

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Re: Indiecrats Want to Cut Defense Spending

The way to approach this and gain support is to redefine a national consensus about the American military mission. A broad majority can be fashioned around the idea of dismantling foreign bases and stop the shut down of bases in the U.S. Let other countries like Japan, Korea, Europe, provide for their own defense. Foreign bases only foment hostility towards the U.S.  The war with Al Qaeda is about making the U.S. safe, not about armies of occupation, which only builds support for extremist elements around the globe. The global military was created to combat the threat of global communism and the Soviet Union. It's an anachronism. America needs to think about defending itself and stop being the global policeman. Collective security abroad, national security for our national boundaries.

by cmpnwtr 2007-03-26 09:49AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: Indiecrats Want to Cut Defense Spending

That's a good point.  If a Democratic Senator were to propose a bill saying that we should only spend at most twenty times more on defense than we do on diplomacy, it would probably have high approval ratings.

by matt stoller 2007-03-26 09:55AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: Indiecrats Want to Cut Defense Spending

Agreed.  Just like a lot of people think NASA gets 10-20% or more of are budget, when I believe they get less that 1%.

Also, I don't even like the question.  I think too much money is going to silly toys like the Paladin and Star Wars and too little is going to body armor and armored vehicles.  So which do I check off in that survey?

by skintigh 2007-03-26 09:56AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: Indiecrats Want to Cut Defense Spending

Don't you think these numbers will start drifting downwards after the Iraq war ends? Remember, in peacetime, military spending is mostly invisible to the average person (nobody spends time thinking about the budget).

by meelar 2007-03-26 10:01AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: Indiecrats Want to Cut Defense Spending

Excellent post. I've long argued that there was no need for us to maintain this massive military infrastructure and that the money wasted on it could be and should be redirected to other more productive uses - such as infrastructure - that provide more widely distributed economic benefits. That the polls are suggesting more Americans are seeing things that way shows just how much of an opportunity we have to transform politics.

by eugene 2007-03-26 10:16AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: Indiecrats Want to Cut Defense Spending

It's interesting how the Dem. & Ind. numbers track almost exactly on the personal financial situation question while the Rep. numbers are more divergent than ever.

by howardpark 2007-03-26 11:36AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: Indiecrats Want to Cut Defense Spending

This needs to be talked about more.

I know there are books and movies and campaigns trying to take this on. I hope this conversation can to be brought to the mainstream, like the way the Iraq war is finally being talked about today. No  candidate as far as I can tell is talking about reducing military spending (Maybe Kucinich is, I don't know). For that matter I haven't heard anyone advocating for re-prioritizing military appropriations away from aerospace and KBR type contracts to something more practical, say, body armor and training.

I hope there are more books and news stories so that the public can make the connection between the pay to play Republican crony-ocracy and our apparent inability to supply and train our soldiers. I like the meme of the socialist corporate welfare for contractors - I'd love to see it become part of the political lexicon for '08, though it likely won't really happen until Clark or Webb runs for president sometime in the future.

by joesaho 2007-03-26 11:52AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Messaging

Matt, a language suggestion. Consider substituting "Soviet" for "socialist" in the above. It's both more accurate, and sharper.

by josh koenig 2007-03-26 11:56AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: Indiecrats Want to Cut Defense Spending

   Defense spending is going heavily to Sun Belt states, which are Republican. But so do social programs. Farm subsidies, medicaid, and social security are all needed more in Republican states than Democratic ones. Democrats give Republicans $100000000000 a year, and then Republicans turn around and say free market. BS. Republicans are all welfare queens in cadilacs and right wing socialists.

by liberal2012 2007-03-26 12:29PM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: Indiecrats Want to Cut Defense Spending

I wrote about military budgeting in January:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/7/2 117/59341

It may be some value here.

For anyone who wishes to get into the nitty gritty details to see exactly where the billions go, this link may be of use: http://www.dod.mil/comptroller/defbudget /fy2006/index.html

And here's a good quote from 2001 by retired Air Force Chief of Staff General McPeak regarding a budget request at
http://www.cdi.org/issues/budget/transfo rmation-stalls-pr.cfm

"if we can't defend this country for $300 billion a year we ought to get some new generals."

Finally, the subject of military budgeting leads to the subject of our national security strategy (or lack of one) and the military, political, and economic instruments of national power.  See my comments in response to "Question: Is there a Progressive Approach to War?" in the diary "Eight Rules for Building a Progressive America" at http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/12/14/153 57/521 and my comments in the diary "The Regionalization of the GOP" at http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/12/22/162 145/97

There is opportunity here to both get our fiscal house in order and have a stronger, smarter, more effective defense at the same time.  Opportunities like this don't come along very often.

by airpower 2007-03-26 03:02PM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: Indiecrats Want to Cut Defense Spending

Finally, the subject of military budgeting leads to the subject of our national security strategy (or lack of one) and the military, political, and economic instruments of national power.  See my comments in response to "Question: Is there a Progressive Approach to War?" in the diary "Eight Rules for Building a Progressive America" at http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/12/14/153 57/521 and my comments in the diary "The Regionalization of the GOP" at http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/12/22/162 145/97

There is opportunity here to both get our fiscal house in order and have a stronger, smarter, more effective defense at the same time.  Opportunities like this don't come along very often.

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