Obey Smacks the Washington Post Editorial Board

This is David Obey's speech on the floor this morning.  Smackdown.

Speaker, yesterday a number of members on the Republican side of the aisle sought to belittle the legislation before us because in addition to funding the needs of the troops in Iraq it contains money to address a number of domestic priorities.  To ridicule that legislation, they suggested -- they tried to belittle items such as funding for levees in New Orleans and agriculture disaster payments . And in that they have been joined by editorial writers at papers such as "The Washington Post." 

Like The Post, the Republican speakers of yesterday indicated that their main objection to this legislation is the way it tries to create pressure to end our military involvement in an Iraqi civil war.  Those speakers and the Washington Post editorial writers make no effort to understand why these additional items are there.  They simply ridicule them for their own purposes...Let me submit to you the problem we have today is not that we didn't listen enough to people like the Washington  Post.  It's that we listened too much. They endorsed going to war in the first place.  They helped drive the drumbeat that drove almost 2/3 of the people in this chamber to vote for that misguided, ill-advised war. So I make no apology.  

If the moral sensibilities of some people on this floor, or the editorial writers of The Washington Post are offended because they don't like the specific language contained in our benchmarks or in our timelines.  What matters in the end is not what the specific language is. What matters is whether or not we produce a product today that puts pressure on this  Administration and sends a message to Iraq, to the Iraqi politicians that we're going to end the permanent long-term dead end babysitting service.  That's what we're trying to do. And if The Washington P ost is offended about the way we do it, that's just too bad. But we're in the arena. They're not.  And this is the best we can do given the tools that we have. And I make absolutely no apology for it. And I would say one thing, those of us who voted against the war in the first place wouldn't have nearly as hard a time getting us out of the war if people like  The Washington Post and those who criticized us on the floor yesterday hadn't supported going into that stupid war in the first place. And I reserve the balance of my time.

Can I get an 'amen'!  There's lots of great video on The Gavel.

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16 Comments

Bills are reversible

The premise that many are using to attack legislative limits on military action by the President is really stupid.  It assumes without stating, that this law would be somehow irreversible, and that some dire reason for troops to remain could arise, but the President will be compelled to have them leave and America will suffer.

Newsflash:  What congress has passed, can be unpassed at need.  The President's tied hands can be untied, as needed.

This is how democracy works.  One guy doesn't have unlimited say to go and invade wherever he wants or stay as long as he wants without restriction.

And the other idiotic meme behind this is that Congress doesn't have access to the same intelligence, and therefore can't make the best judgment:  Well, then, the administration should share more intelligence with them then huh?

The Admin can make its case for renewed authority in 2008 if circumstances warrant having the troops stay.

by scientician 2007-03-23 07:38AM | 0 recs
Re: Obey Smacks the Washington Post

This is pretty good.  I would actually go a step further and read one of Greenwald's recent posts on these warmongers.  He should read some of their ridiculous predictions on the floor and have a gallery of House members laughing at the absurdity of each claim.  

by IsThisOverYet 2007-03-23 07:52AM | 0 recs
Re: Obey Smacks the Washington Post

Like this one...

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2 007/03/11/kagan/index.html

by IsThisOverYet 2007-03-23 08:19AM | 0 recs
Great Idea!

And, to take it one step further, he might also want to read the Powell Doctrine, just to set up how reckless the warmongers were in ignoring the lessons that the military itself said it had learned from Vietnam.

by Paul Rosenberg 2007-03-23 08:28AM | 0 recs
the Powell doctrine

the Powell doctrine is I'll say whatever I have to to get and keep this job

by Alice Marshall 2007-03-23 11:19AM | 0 recs
Amen Indeed

Can I just say I love David Obey?  I know the guy has had a few...intemperate moments, but at least you can tell he's passionate about the issues of the day.

by HSTruman 2007-03-23 07:54AM | 0 recs
Re: Obey Smacks the Washington Post Editorial Boa

Amen. Obey is one of the good guys.

by johnalive 2007-03-23 08:14AM | 0 recs
Smackdown! n/t

by LiberalFromPA 2007-03-23 08:19AM | 0 recs
Stupid war

I particularly thrill at hearing Obey call it a "stupid war," like I did at Obama's "dumb war."

Because, it's the utter pointlessness of this war, the fact that we went to war without having an actual reason for it, that makes the Iraq fiasco so tragic, and so offensive.  Calling it a "stupid war" is the plain truth that we needed so much to hear at the time, and never did.  Plain truth is, as much as anything, what we need out of any reforms of American democracy that we might be able to effect.

by cerebrocrat 2007-03-23 08:30AM | 0 recs
Amen! Obey Smacks the Washington Post

I saw him live and man he was hot! Great job Congressman.

by greenchiledem 2007-03-23 09:08AM | 0 recs
Dems Lose

Let's understand what ya'll just did. You supported a convoluted bullshit bill with no clear definition. W, who was just on blinking like I haven't seen since Kerry debate and said he will veto. Now the Dems will be in a pissing match with W, with no clear stand on the war and your majority will end up funding this stupid war piece by piece, and all you "progressives" have no ability to hold anyone accountable. Congrats, stupid politics.

by brutus1 2007-03-23 10:16AM | 0 recs
I loved this

Tying the WP to the Repukeliscum Party is great!  It's about damn time!  

by dataguy 2007-03-23 12:59PM | 0 recs
Random question

Great speech. Qhestion though, what does this last sentence mean?

And I reserve the balance of my time.

by Silent sound 2007-03-23 01:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Random question

I think it means that he was done with his speech and that any time he had left he could use later in the debate?

by IsThisOverYet 2007-03-23 02:08PM | 0 recs
Thank you.

Congressional progressives like Obey have to push the antiwar movement up the Hill being criticized by both the rightwing and the holier-than-thou segment of the left wing. Thank god for people of conscience like Congressman Obey.

by anothergreenbus 2007-03-23 02:01PM | 0 recs
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I'd like to suggest that future end-war legislation include provisions for liberal, humane treatment of Iraqi refugees who rightly fear persecution in the Iraq we will leave behind.

by Bob H 2007-03-24 03:01AM | 0 recs

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