New Nevada Poll

The results, courtesy of KRNV in Reno:

TotalMenWomen
Clinton322836
Obama202416
Edwards11913
Gore11139
Richardson231
Clark231
Gravel111
Kucinich111
Dodd111
Biden111
Undecided181620

The listed margin of error under the Democratic results is plus or minus four percent, a figure that would seem surprisingly low for likely Democratic caucus-goers (who almost certainly make up less than 5 percent of the state's population), leading me to believe that either a) this poll was of Democrats, not likely Democratic caucus-goers, and/or b) the margin of error was for the poll as a whole, not likely Democratic caucus-goers, leaving the margin of error for likely Democratic caucus-goers significantly higher (perhaps so high that it would be wrong to draw a conclusion from the poll). Then again, I could be wrong; I'm going off of my gut analysis in the absence of more detail on the television station's website.

Tags: Democratic primaries, Democrats, Nevada Caucuses (all tags)

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26 Comments

Hmm.

This is consistent with my cynical counter-theory on the Edwards debate thing -- he had decided that, despite his union strength, he actually wasn't going to be competitive in NV anyway, and had SC as a backstop after NH, such that opting out of the Fox debate was an easy decision to skip something in a state that wasn't going to much matter to him anyway.

by Adam B 2007-03-10 02:24PM | 0 recs
Labor hasn't endorsed yet
Until they do, the numbers won't move.
Labor will endorse Edwards and then his numbers will show movement in NV.
by raddude 2007-03-10 10:23PM | 0 recs
Well, here's the other thing

Today's WaPo:

Last week, Edwards announced he would not participate in a Nevada Democratic debate, co-sponsored by Fox News, which Net-roots activists had been asking the candidates to boycott. His decision was made public in an e-mail from senior campaign adviser Jonathan Prince to the Daily Kos, one of the most prominent liberal blogs.

The debate, scheduled for August, was canceled Friday.

In the interview, Edwards said the activists' concerns had no influence on his decision. "I saw the list of debates that we had and the list of things we're doing specific in Nevada, and I said, 'Why are we doing Fox?' I said, 'No, tell them no.' " Asked whether he knew about the bloggers' concerns, Edwards said, "I didn't personally know, no."

He called on Saturday to say: "The correct answer to that is I was generically aware that the Net-roots hates Fox. I did not know about any specific activity about this."

by Adam B 2007-03-11 04:40AM | 0 recs
Re: Well, here's the other thing

And??

by adamterando 2007-03-11 05:05AM | 0 recs
Re: Well, here's the other thing

It's just weird to take it as a netroots victory, given that.

by Adam B 2007-03-11 10:11AM | 0 recs
Re: Well, here's the other thing

Well I think it says something about Edwards himself that he made this decision without first needing pressure from us in order for him to decide to opt out. He already got the problem with Fox. He didn't  people on blogs to tell him there was a problem there.  

by adamterando 2007-03-11 10:29AM | 0 recs
Re: New Nevada Poll

I stopped paying attention to polls that feature contenders that have not even announced they are running. This is what I call a "wishful thinking" poll. Are there any Nevada polls that do not feature Al Gore?

I love the guy, but I can't this poll seriously when he's in it.

by FreedomOFSpeechFromTheDNC 2007-03-10 02:39PM | 0 recs
Re: New Nevada Poll

TAKE.

;p

by FreedomOFSpeechFromTheDNC 2007-03-10 02:39PM | 0 recs
Re: 2008 NV Poll

I'm damn sure that this is not a poll that accurately questioned the correct voters (ones that will show up to the Nevada caucus).  The attendance will be very low, even compared to Iowa.

If someone can get conduct a poll that asks 1) how likely are you to attend the 2008 caucus? AND 2) did you attend the 2004 cacus?, THEN I'll believe the numbers.  Good luck to anyone who tries though... it would be very difficult.

This looks like a poll of regsitered Dems in Nevada.  I don't concede that Hillary is probably leading among regsitered Dems.  Also, I happen to believe that Obama is #2 and Edwards #3.  That fits pretty well.  I don't like that they've included Gore because the chance of him entering seems remote now, in my opinion.

by mbcarl 2007-03-10 02:42PM | 0 recs
Re: New Nevada Poll

It's not surprising that Nevada polls would look similar to national polls this far out.  Nevadans aren't used to taking a harder look at the candidates like Iowans and NH'ers are, though I'm confident they'll learn.  I'd bet Nevada polls will start to take on unique numbers sometime next fall/winter when they realize how important their caucus will be.

by dbeard115 2007-03-10 02:44PM | 0 recs
Re: New Nevada Poll

Anyone know why Edwards is the only man that has the support of more women than men?

by jallen 2007-03-10 02:47PM | 0 recs
Re: New Nevada Poll

He's cute?

Again, this poll should not be taken seriously. Al Gore is in it and when you look at the numbers and the demographics, it's clear that they would have chooses Obama or Edwards if Gore was not on that list.

by FreedomOFSpeechFromTheDNC 2007-03-10 02:50PM | 0 recs
Re: New Nevada Poll

Most polls have shown the contrary, without Gore in the race much of the support goes to Clinton.

by robliberal 2007-03-10 06:00PM | 0 recs
Re: New Nevada Poll

That almost always happens.  The frontrunner gets the most, then the one in second, etc, unless something is really changing in the race.

by jallen 2007-03-10 07:29PM | 0 recs
Re: New Nevada Poll

My Grammar sucks tonight. I should not have had wine with dinner.

Sorry. (lol)

by FreedomOFSpeechFromTheDNC 2007-03-10 02:52PM | 0 recs
Re: New Nevada Poll

This poll is worthless.

From the Reno Gazette-Journal which cosponsored the poll with KNRV:

The poll, conducted by Research 2000 from March 6-8, polled 600 voters statewide who vote regularly in state elections. The poll consisted of 240 Democrats, 246 Republicans and 114 independents. Of those surveyed, 306 were women and 294 men. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percent.

I forget the calculation but the MoE among Democrats  is much higher, given these numbers, than +/- 4%.

by chicago jeff 2007-03-10 03:40PM | 0 recs
Horribly, Hopelessly Useless

How can you try and determine this thing if over half the sample are republicans or independents who have no say in the caucus?

Please someone, find the Fox News connection to this poll so it can be flushed down the memory hole.

by Mark Adams 2007-03-10 03:51PM | 0 recs
Re: New Nevada Poll

Yes KRNV did a horrible job, but it's not possible to do a valid poll of Nev. in March 2007.  Who will show up to the caucus?  The supporters of the candidate whose campaign gets them to the precinct meetings.  It's going to be all about organization.

by McFrederick 2007-03-10 05:24PM | 0 recs
Re: New Nevada Poll

Of course it's valid -- it's valid for what it purports to measure: preferences among Dems as of March 2007.  It doesn't claim to predict the future, nor can it.

by Adam B 2007-03-10 07:05PM | 0 recs
Re: New Nevada Poll

NOW I am absolutely certain that most pollsters and operatives that listen to polls (not to mention pundits) have no idea WTF they are doing.

Not polling likely caucus-goers?  That's f'ing amateur!

And again, polling like this does not factor in organization, second choices, and those whom those polled will not support - very important in caucus states.  It's like the polling outfits and commissioners have no idea how politics works.

Warning to pundits who cite polls like this: come across as a moron at your own risk!

by Peter from WI 2007-03-10 06:30PM | 0 recs
Re: New Nevada Poll

This poll is meaningless..........

Do state delegates believe Hillary is electable?

As we know, John Edwards is the only electable candidate in our democratic field.

by Djneedle83 2007-03-10 07:16PM | 0 recs
Re: New Nevada Poll

As a fellow Edwards supporter, that's bs.  Any of our top contenders could beat any Republican candidate.

by jallen 2007-03-10 07:27PM | 0 recs
Re: New Nevada Poll

Edwards ranks a distant third behind Clinton and Obama in most states. In general election matchups all 3 do well against most GOP nominees except the mayor.

by robliberal 2007-03-10 07:33PM | 0 recs
Re: New Nevada Poll

All three do well against all the Republicans.  They just don't beat Giuliani all the time.  Sometimes they do.

by jallen 2007-03-10 07:45PM | 0 recs
Re: New Nevada Poll

My instinct is the caucus support is much closer than that among Hillary, Obama and Edwards. I would ignore this as a caucus poll and take it as more of a statewide poll of overall preference.

Actually, by far the most interesting aspect is the crosstabs of the hypothetical presidential matchups. Hillary is much weaker than Obama among both women and independents, when matched up against McCain or Guiliani. Edwards doesn't fare particularly well in those head-to-head general election matchups, roughly the same as Hillary.  

by Gary Kilbride 2007-03-11 12:54AM | 0 recs
Let me link to what I referred to

Otherwise it takes a couple of clicks on that site. These are numbers from hypothetical Nevada matchups of Hillary, Obama, Edwards and Gore against McCain and Guiliani, broken down by category:

http://www.krnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6 204732

by Gary Kilbride 2007-03-11 01:03AM | 0 recs

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