Obama Holds His Largest Lead Ever in Iowa Poll

Republican pollster Strategic Vision is out with new numbers from Iowa that seem to gibe with the general trends from both the Democratic and Republican primaries, with both Barack Obama and Mike Huckabee leading their respective party's field in the first early nominating state. Take a look at the latest survey of 600 likely Democratic caucus goers (11/30-12/2, MoE +/- 4.5%), along with the Pollster.com average out of the state (which includes this SV poll).

Candidate12/2 (11/25)Pollster
Obama32 (29)26.4
Clinton25 (29)27.9
Edwards25 (23)21.8
Biden5 (4)4.6
Richardson3 (6)8.3
Dodd1 (1)1.0
Kucinich1 (1)1.2
Undecided8 (7)N/A

These moves from two weeks ago are all within the margin of error for the poll, as is Obama's lead, so as is almost always the case with these things, one need remember not to place excessive attention on the results of a single poll. That said, looking at the trend of all polling out of Iowa, one cannot help but come away with the sentiment that Obama is on a steady rise in the state while Clinton is nearing or has already hit her peak in the state.

The other key take away from these numbers is that Bill Richardson seems to be hemorrhaging support in Iowa while Biden may be picking up a bit of support here and there. If you had asked me even a month ago what one of the most important yet insufficiently discussed aspects of the campaign in Iowa was I would have said (a) whether Richardson's 10-12 support statewide would be spread in such a way that he would be viable in a good number of caucus locations; and (b) where his support would go in those locations where he did not meet the 15 percent threshold for viability. Yet if Richardson is really down in towards 3 percent support -- four of the past five polls from the state show he's pulling in single-digit support in the state after having consistently polled in the low double-digits or high single-digits since May -- where his support goes becomes a lot less important of a question.

Finally, on the Republican side, it's pretty unambiguously clear that Mitt Romney has lost his lead in Iowa, a lead that had endured pretty well for at least a half a year. Romney and Huckabee are effectively tied in the state at this point, with Huckabee perhaps holding a small advantage in polling (he's up 3 points in this poll, 27 percent to 24 percent) and Romney seemingly holding an organizational advantage. No one else in the Republican field seems to have a genuine shot at carrying Iowa at this point.

Tags: 2008, Democratic primaries, Democrats, Iowa, Iowa Caucuses (all tags)

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35 Comments

While I would prefer Edwards

What I REALLY want to make sure is that Clinton finished a distant 3rd in Iowa and endures the same campaign killing media narrative as Dean.

I suppose it's too much to hope that at the end of caucus night an aide will hand Hillary the wrong mic (hyper-directional TV mic instead of mic to the speakers in the hall), resulting in the over-amplification to TV and radio of her ever utterance....

by Jim in Chicago 2007-12-06 07:12AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Holds His Largest Lead Ever in Iowa Poll

I believe the richardson voters have come to the conclusion their man isnnt going anywhere , so my guess is that they are currently searching for a new home.

The fact that Obama is picking up momentum right now , could sway some of those voters who currently backed second-tier candidate , to jump on the Obama express before it leaves the station.

Let me remind everyone that the Obama Iowa team are basically the only camp that are heavily courting hispanics and african americans in their neighorhood....Obama is the only camp that is heavily courting students.

There was a very nice article on the NYT about how far the Obama campiagn are going to reach out to latinos in Iowa....While the hispanic voting bloc in Iowa may not be too fruitfull , if Obama can get a few hundreds to come out in some areas of the state , it could really help.

by Prodigy 2007-12-06 07:12AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Holds His Largest Lead Ever in Iowa Poll

Also , whenever Obama is in town , his campaig always make sure they invite some of those hispanics...He's the only candidate that does that and get back to them answers to their question.

by Prodigy 2007-12-06 07:13AM | 0 recs
it's strange--my voter contacts

don't bear out any drop in support for Richardson, nor am I hearing that from other precinct captains I talk with from time to time.

That doesn't mean the polls are wrong, obviously, but last cycle the precinct captains were picking up on movement to Kerry and Edwards before it showed up in polling.

by desmoinesdem 2007-12-06 07:30AM | 0 recs
Re: it's strange--my voter contacts

In my visits to the river towns of Burlington and Fort Madison, the only presence (yard signs, lit drop) I've seen on the Democratic side other than the Big 3 has been Richardson.

by clarkent 2007-12-06 08:56AM | 0 recs
Re: it's strange--my voter contacts

Maybe all the richardson supporters are clustered inside desmoinesdem area.

A lot of people keep telling me to watch out for richardso for im calling it Bullshit.

I strongly believe that as we get closer to january 3rd , Richardson will start losing support as his soft support realises that he's not going anywhere.

Obama is way to smart to get into the mud with Hillary , so you wont see any dean/gheparth effect....

If anything , only Hillary has been critizise for attacking Obama so ruthlessly while Obama just defends himself.

Obama should just ignore her...If he go ballistic like Dean , he'll tarnish his image and this is exactly what Hillary wants.

Gallup has hillary disapproval at 50%
Rasmussen has her disapproval at 55%
The new des moines register poll has her at 21% which is by far the highest among primary democrats.

Obama negatives is still low and he should not do or say anything stupid just to answer her stupid attacks...Let her rant by herself.

by Prodigy 2007-12-06 09:15AM | 0 recs
Re: it's strange--my voter contacts

You misunderstood me. I was agreeing with desmoinesdem's observations - she's seeing Richardson support and so am I.

by clarkent 2007-12-07 10:44AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Holds His Largest Lead Ever in Iowa Poll

For the 9 millionth time, it is extremely unlikely that supporters of one candidate will see support for another candidate rise and for that reason decide to support the rising candidate. Historically in Iowa, that hasn't happened.

by clarkent 2007-12-06 08:59AM | 0 recs
particularly the kind of voters

who are supporting or leaning toward Biden or Richardson.

When I encounter one of these people and ask if they have a presidential candidate, I often hear something like, "Well, my guy has no chance, but I'm for Biden." Or: "I'm pretty sure I'm going for Richardson. He isn't going to win, but he's the most  qualified."

I never, ever try to tell supporters of second-tier candidates that they should just give up because only Edwards has a chance to win. I do try to convince them to make Edwards their second choice and to consider caucusing for Edwards if Richardson (or Biden) has enough people for one delegate but is far short of enough for a second delegate.

My free advice to Obama supporters, which they will probably ignore, is not to tell Iowans they need to support Barack because he's the only one with a chance to beat Hillary (or the only one with enough money to beat Hillary). I think that kind of talk backfires with Iowans.

by desmoinesdem 2007-12-06 09:37AM | 0 recs
i agree...

it works better in new hampshire...

by bored now 2007-12-06 09:46AM | 0 recs
Re: particularly the kind of voters

You don't need to slip in the cynical "which they will probably ignore" phrase.  From my experience with a number of Obama supporters, I don't think they will ignore advice and you have a lot of good advice to give.  Not enough people are considerate of the fact that Obama is bringing a lot of new people into political activism for their very first time - young and old.  They are often hesitant, unsure, inexperienced, but their heart and passion are in the right place and they represent and tremendous new force for the Party.  

by Piuma 2007-12-06 09:57AM | 0 recs
I didn't mean that to sound cynical

Yesterday I was with a friend (Hillary leaner, still considering Obama). Her mother (Obama precinct captain) was there. She tried to talk me into switching to Obama because he's the one with enough money to go the distance.

I don't know if she came up with that on her own or if that is a talking point she's been advised to use with Edwards supporters who say they also like Obama.

I see this point raised frequently by Obama supporters at Daily Kos as well, such as icebergslim.

by desmoinesdem 2007-12-06 10:41AM | 0 recs
where are the repub results?

You didn't post them.

by Davidsfr 2007-12-06 07:13AM | 0 recs
Re: where are the repub results?

1. If the 2008 Republican presidential caucus were held today between Rudy Giuliani, Mike Huckabee, Duncan Hunter, John McCain, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, Tom Tancredo, and Fred Thompson, for whom would you vote? (Republicans Only; Names Rotated)

Mike Huckabee 27%
Mitt Romney 24%
Rudy Giuliani 13%
Fred Thompson 11%
John McCain 6%
Ron Paul 5%
Tom Tancredo 2%
Duncan Hunter 1%
Undecided 11%

by Jonathan Singer 2007-12-06 07:31AM | 0 recs
does Strategic Vision release

the breakdown of support for the candidates among various age groups? Presumably Obama has to be doing better among over-50 voters for him to have this kind of lead, but I wonder if the poll's sample included a larger than usual number of young people.

by desmoinesdem 2007-12-06 07:31AM | 0 recs
Iowa Poll

While Mitt Romney may have the best "organization" in Iowa, am I wrong to assume that organization doesn't impact the Republican side nearly as much as the Democratic side?  From what I understand, there are no "second choice" votes for the Republicans, so the polls generally tend to be more accurate than polls on the Dem side.

by Vox Populi 2007-12-06 07:44AM | 0 recs
Re: Iowa Poll

Republicans report the actual number of original votes (before any adjustments for delegate allocation or viablity).  It is a straight number and is recorded eqarly in the evening.

Democrats report the percentage of delegates rewarded to a candidate (after viability, etc. is adjusted for).  We don't even report the actual number of voters.

In 2004, both Kerry and especially Edwards had their vote count padded by second choice votes.

by David Kowalski 2007-12-06 08:03AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Holds His Largest Lead Ever in Iowa Poll

Richardson seems to do very well in the NH polling, though.  I can't imagine any candidate in the field dropping out immediately after Iowa, not with NH following so closely behind.  Every single one of them will be hoping for a comeback narrative.

by Steve M 2007-12-06 07:47AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Holds His Largest Lead Ever in Iowa Poll

And there's the fact that they can't REALLY control where their votes go.  So if they were to drop out, they could significantly change the dynamics of the race, depending on who/who all were to drop out.  

by JeremiahTheMessiah 2007-12-06 07:57AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Holds His Largest Lead Ever in Iowa Poll

Where is the methodology of this poll? Did they release it?

Some Iowa polls use turnout assumptions 2 or 3 or even more times higher than has ever happened before. That tends to help Obama and hurt Edwards.

The link provided does not include methodology. Help anyone?

by ColoradoGuy 2007-12-06 07:55AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Holds His Largest Lead Ever in Iowa Poll

Putting aside the issue of poll methodology, isn't it anticipated that there will be a much larger turnout than previously?

by Piuma 2007-12-06 09:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Holds His Largest Lead Ever in Iowa Poll

i would expect +20K from 2004 which saw about 120k...I think we'll get about 150k this year.

by Prodigy 2007-12-06 09:19AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Holds His Largest Lead Ever in Iowa Poll

I would also put it in context.  In 2004, at the Iowa JJ dinner, they had 7,500 people.  In 2008, they had 9,000 people.  

That's a 20% increase.  If 120K people caucused, and you have a 20% increase, that would be 144K people.  Estimated, of course.  

by JeremiahTheMessiah 2007-12-06 09:37AM | 0 recs
I'll be surprised if it's more than 135,000

and I wouldn't be shocked if it's below that number. The early date is a bad, bad idea.

by desmoinesdem 2007-12-06 10:42AM | 0 recs
while i'm happy to see obama rising in the polls..

i'm as skeptical of these results as i am of any poll for the iowa caucuses.  it still depends on the poll's screen, and the fact is that there are a lot of variables that determine caucus participation.  we are just at the point where kerry started to turn everything around in iowa, let's not forget that...

by bored now 2007-12-06 09:40AM | 0 recs
Re: while i'm happy to see obama rising in the pol

Agreed... until i see other polls with similiar numbers, this SCREAMS outlier...

by yitbos96bb 2007-12-06 04:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Holds His Largest Lead Ever in Iowa Poll
Guys, too MUCH emphasis is being placed on Iowa! Hillary has the nomination locked up.  Just look at the national polls.  Guys stop stressing out about the caucuses and focus more on life after Iowa.
PEACE!
by nzubechukwu 2007-12-06 10:05AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Holds His Largest Lead Ever in Iowa Poll

Life after Iowa is all about what happened in Iowa.  Don't you remember 2004?  

by JeremiahTheMessiah 2007-12-06 10:07AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Holds His Largest Lead Ever in Iowa Poll

Richardson has been running a pretty ineffective campaign as of late, so I'm not surprised to see him drop.

As for the top three, it's probably going to be close until the end. Fasten the seat belts.

by Progressive America 2007-12-06 10:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Holds His Largest Lead Ever in Iowa Poll

Another thing... Why is a Republican pollster doing a democratic poll?  Guys come on now.  Of course Obama's numbers are inflated.  They want to Hillary to look as vulnerable as possible.

by nzubechukwu 2007-12-06 10:11AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Holds His Largest Lead Ever in Iowa Poll

SV always does dem polls, and has a pretty good track record

by CardBoard 2007-12-06 10:25AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Holds His Largest Lead Ever in Iowa Poll

Obama will never be president, the Republicans are not as tolerant as the Democrats..  The swift boaters will all be Muslems..  All they need is a once of truth..  Google "Obama Islem" and you can see what will happen... It doesn't have to be the truth.. They didn't bother with the truth with Kerry and they won't bother with the truth with Obama...

by my nickle 2007-12-06 10:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Holds His Largest Lead Ever in Iowa Poll

It's Muslim and Islam.  If you are going to try and attack Obama at least spell the words correctly.

by yitbos96bb 2007-12-06 04:34PM | 0 recs
Second Choice Matters in Iowa Caucus

For the Biden, Dodd and Richardson supporters, Clinton will undoubtedly be their second choice because experience matters for them above all talk of hawkishness or Clinton "redux."  So, Obama and Clinton are basically battling for their FLOOR of support, which unsurprisingly is going to settle around the 30% mark come Jan. 3.  Clinton's win in Iowa will come from her appeal as a second choice for those whose choice does not reach the 15% required threshold for caucus delegate apportionment.

by Zeitgeist9000 2007-12-06 01:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Holds His Largest Lead Ever in Iowa Poll

I support Obama and I'LL call this an outlier.  It would be cool if some other polls give similiar but until they do, I think the race is much much closer an this is an outlier.

by yitbos96bb 2007-12-06 04:34PM | 0 recs

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