5 Short Posts About Edwards

The New Ad

Edwards is doing what he needs to do: getting buzz-bang for his media buck. His new ad cites his plan to push Congress to pass a law that would cut off its own health care coverage unless it passes a bill that covers everyone.

Across the blogosphere Edwards critics are falling in love with the 27th Amendment, which says "No law varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives shall take effect until an election of Representatives shall have intervened." But it's not clear that  "compensation" refers to benefits. More important, the law was designed to prevent Congress from enriching itself; here it would be doing the opposite. In other words, JRE's law would be very much in the spirit of the constitution, which seeks to contain the power of the powerful. If health care is a right, and it is, why should it be granted to government officials and not everyone?

Even Obama's legal advisor seems to think it's constitutional. It's certainly a political and legal fight Edwards would welcome. In any case, voters in Iowa and elsewhere will gobble it up. That's one thing that impresses me about that Edwards campaign: he's seeking to the win the support of primary voters, not the Establishment. The same can not always be said of Obama, whose talk of a social security crisis seemed designed to please pundits. Paul Krugman thinks it's

incredible that Barack Obama would make obeisance to fashionable but misguided Social Security crisis-mongering a centerpiece of his campaign. It's a bad omen; it suggests that he is still, despite all that has happened, desperately seeking approval from Beltway insiders.

Substantively, this is wrong -- and the tone-deafness is hard to understand. Tim Russert doesn't vote in Iowa.

2. The Primary Lie of the Primary Finally Dies

You've heard it a thousand times: the leading candidates are all the same. Ironically, it's not the MSM that pushes this nonsense; they understand that Edwards is to the left of his rivals. (But to them, "left" is a pejorative.) It's progressive bloggers and journalists who can't see the differences that even Ralph Nader sees (He prefers Edwards.)

Fortunately, with the reemergence of trade as a major issue, this lie seems to be dying a much-deserved death. While Obama and Clinton support the "free" trade deal with Peru, Edwards opposes it. John Nichols:

For those who suggest that there are not enough differences between the Democratic frontrunners, here's an example of where one leading contender -- John Edwards -- stands head and shoulders above the others.

There are many great reasons to oppose the Peru Trade deal. Not least is this one cited by the AFL-CIO's John Sweeney.

We are justifiably skeptical about whether the Bush Administration will faithfully enforce the newly negotiated labor and environment protections, since this administration has done such a poor job enforcing these provisions in existing trade agreements.

In supporting the Peru deal, Sens Clinton and Obama are trusting Bush (or President Guiliani, for that matter) to enforce the protections. Maybe Edwards should, uh, point that out.

3. Bill Richardson's Sleaze

Edwards faces a new mini-challenge: the slime oozing forth from the Richardson campaign. Richardson and his campaign keep claiming that Edwards would leave some 100,000 troops in Iraq "indefinitely." This is untrue, and Richardson knows it's untrue. Which is to say that Richardson is lying. Edwards would leave only a few thousand troops in Iraq, non-combat troops to protect the embassy and guard humanitarian missions.

4. Does Hillary Know What an Occupation Is?

Edwards has rightly criticized Clinton for saying she wants to leave combat troops in Iraq to fight Al-Qaeda. He, by contrast, would leave troops stationed outside Iraq that could be deployed inside Iraq to go after AQ. Now, in the liberal-la-la land that I live in, I would like a leading candidate to say that he or she plans to
to leave the battling of AQ to Sunni tribes, who seems to be doing quite well, but in the real world of presidential politics, no candidate is going to give up the "right" to go after AQ in Iraq. In other words, JRE's position is as good as we'll get and much better than Hillary's.

Amusingly, though, Team Clinton is trying to blur the distinction between their positions--not so easy to do, given that most people know that "inside Iraq" does not mean the same thing as "outside Iraq."

Check out the title of this post over at Hillaryhub, a new propaganda site set up by the campaign:

Edwards Would Continue Combat Missions Against Al-Qaeda In Iraq But Attacks Hillary For Having The Same Position

Okay, one more time. Inside country does not equal outside country.

5. Edwards Rises and Hillary Drops

Hillary and her supporters are sad. And shocked. Shocked and sad. Saddenly shocked that Edwards would have the temerity to criticize her. On the issues, no less!

Note to Taylor Marsh and others: when Edwards blasts Hillary for taking two different positions on Social Security or for deceptively claiming her vote for Kyl-Lieberman was a vote for diplomacy, those are issue-based critiques. Just as when Team Obama blasts Edwards for inconsistency or questions his authenticity because he's moved left, those are issue-based critiques.

Are Edwards's swipes at Hillary pointed? Yup. Tough? I hope so. You'd think Clinton and her supporters had never seen a tough election; but of course they're just pretending to be dismayed as they call Edwards angry (God forbid) and negative (Allah have mercy.)

Calls for civility are the last refuge of the Establishment.

Listening to their nervous calls for Edwards to lay off, you start to sense that he's getting somewhere. Sure enough, he's on the move in New Hampshire and nationally. The last Rasumussen tracking poll has him with three of Obama. Don't let up, Johnny Boy.

Meanwhile over at Openleft, Stoller and Bowers are expressing dimsay that it was the mainstream press that has brought down Hillary's numbers, and perhaps it was. But what do they think gave her the lead in the first place? Her positions on the issues? Baaaahhhh. The Tweety Giveth and the Tweenty taketh away.

Tags: 2008 elections, Barack Obama, Bill Richardson, Hillary Clinton, Iowa, Iraq War, John Edwards, president, Primaries, trade, tv ad (all tags)

Comments

41 Comments

Re: 5 Short Posts About Edwards

Heh, fantastic post David. The new ad does seem to be giving the establishment the vapors.

by MassEyesandEars 2007-11-13 11:53AM | 0 recs
Re: 5 Short Posts About Edwards

I love the new ad.  It is a winner.  There is no down side.  Congressmen can run on the issue of providing health care.  

I cannot imagine that congress would want to challenge the constitutionality of keeping their gold plated health care while not passing universal health care for citizens that pay for theirs.  

This is a politically astute move.  Edwards is the champion of the people vs a congress that doesn't listen.  Those that support him will win and win big.

And Richardson's sleaze is really showing up.  He is there to carry water for Clinton.  He isn't even trying to win now, just make Edwards look bad and blur his position with Clinton's.  

by pioneer111 2007-11-13 11:58AM | 0 recs
Re: 5 Short Posts About Edwards

He claims he is not running for the Veep, but then he does things that make no sense. ie, attack edwards with falsehoods, and ignore clinton for truism about her Iraqi positions

by bruh21 2007-11-13 12:05PM | 0 recs
Constitutionality

Pay decreases clearly fall under the 27th Amendment, and the overall spirit of the Constitution has nothing to do with whether the Edwards plan is constitutional.

Compensation probably includes benefits, but it's at least arguable that it does not.  

The real problem is that Congress is never passing it without a filibuster-proof Senate, and it would be extremely likely even then.

The best point for Edwards is that if Congress did pass it, it would certainly be binding on the next session of Congress, so there's really no reason to go getting all worried about whether it's constitutional on the current one or not since the legal challenges wouldn't be done for more than two years anyway.

by ohiomeister 2007-11-13 03:33PM | 0 recs
Re: 5 Short Posts About Edwards

Umm i dont know who is sad among the hillary camp, she is still holding healthy leads nationally and in early states, the only state that is within MOE is Iowa, and its been that way all year.

by sepulvedaj3 2007-11-13 12:00PM | 0 recs
Re: 5 Short Posts About Edwards

you have a great sense of humor. thanks.

by bruh21 2007-11-13 12:12PM | 0 recs
And gotta love those NH trendlines ...

... I was pestering people in numerous poll diaries in the summer to include trendlines ... and since I seem to have pre-Thanksgiving free time, I can start pestering again.

Dropping within the MOE from one poll to the next, whether across one month or two, that's moderately bad news. Dropping more than the MOE from one poll to the next, whether across one month or two, that's bad news.

So saying

she is still holding healthy leads nationally and in early states
... as a way to describe dropping from previous positions but not far enough to lose her lead, that sure is a sunny, optimistic way to present bad news.
 

by BruceMcF 2007-11-13 12:52PM | 0 recs
Re: 5 Short Posts About Edwards

Nice work.

Like and Edwards Afternoon News Roundup.

EANR!!

by TomP 2007-11-13 12:03PM | 0 recs
Edwards is not rising

Edwards is on a kamikaze mission.

I have no idea what they think they are doing.

I thought he was running a very smart campaign until recently.

I think he is blowing his chance.

In Iowa Edwards had strog committed support and could use a win there as a springboard to a 2 person race.

By doing these personal attacks on Clinton now he helps OBAMA, hurts Hillary and hurts himself.

I guess Axelrod knew this was coming.

If Edwards keeps this up, Obama will have a good chance, Hillary still has a very good chance and Edwards will have no chance.

Crazy.

by Big Tent Democrat 2007-11-13 12:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards is not rising

and now Obama is doing these "personal attacks" against Edwards. It looks like it's working.

Not every single election will happen via Dean v. Gephardt.

by KainIIIC 2007-11-13 01:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards is not rising

My impression from the last debate was that Edwards is truly uncomfortable in the role of attack dog.

by Steve M 2007-11-13 01:15PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards is not rising

Curious- between your post on Obama excoriating him for attacking Clinton (under the guise of talking SS, but now I question that considering this post) and now Edwards- who exactly is supposed to go after the front runner? The A list bloggers?

by bruh21 2007-11-13 01:24PM | 0 recs
Attack on issues

Unless you think "doubletalk" means something.

I do not.

by Big Tent Democrat 2007-11-13 02:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards is not rising

Follow up- how do you think one wins a primary in which the front runner isn't being attacked by anyone? Hope and prayer strategy?

by bruh21 2007-11-13 01:25PM | 0 recs
Someone has to have the guts to do it.

See if Obama EVER goes after Hillary without Edwards doing so first.

by Rooktoven 2007-11-13 01:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Someone has to have the guts to do it.

prolly not, but i dont see what choice edwards has. big tent apparently thinks crazy is doing something rather than waiting around, and i think the opposite- crazy is waiting for the dynamics of the race to change considering there are no forces like an anti dean press to push this along.

by bruh21 2007-11-13 01:40PM | 0 recs
Edwards' path was clear

WIN Iowa.

I do not think he has helped himself for that. Do you think he has?

by Big Tent Democrat 2007-11-13 02:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards' path was clear

winning iowa only helps if voters are undecided.

by bruh21 2007-11-13 02:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards' path was clear

ps leaving the narrative as is- helps clinton

by bruh21 2007-11-13 02:50PM | 0 recs
Edwards is rising in New Hampshire as ...

... a result of the sharper edge ... we have no polling in Iowa in the right time frame to tell us what is happening there ... and with Senator Obama now coming out attacking Edwards, it seems very much like both Edwards and Obama are acting as if there is going to be soft support shaken loose from Senator Clinton, and they have to split their attention between keeping on shaking that tree, and making sure to try to get some of that support moving in their direction.

by BruceMcF 2007-11-13 01:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards is rising in New Hampshire as ...

and as if in response to you

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/13/us/pol itics/14cnd-poll.html?_r=1&hp&or ef=slogin

by bruh21 2007-11-13 02:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards is rising in New Hampshire as ...

To refute him?

In New Hampshire, Mrs. Clinton leads with 37 percent, compared with 22 percent for Mr. Obama and 9 percent of Mr. Edwards. Among Republicans, Mr. Romney has the support of 34 percent of respondents, while Mr. Giuliani and Mr. McCain -- who won the state in 2000, and has always described it as warm environment for him -- has the support of 16 percent.

by Big Tent Democrat 2007-11-13 02:44PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards is rising in New Hampshire as ...

it refutes the claim that we know where this headed. he said that he didn't know what was happening in the early states. indeed in nh some show  up, some down. whats for certain is there is a dynamism that your edwards is crazy meme doesn't reflect. maybe he is crayz. maybe not. whats for certain is that the static alterantive is absolutely crazy.

by bruh21 2007-11-13 02:48PM | 0 recs
We don't have the trendlines there ...

... if the previous CBS News NYT NH poll would have had Edwards at 7% if they had done one, then that would have been an uptick. If it would have had Edwards at 11% if they had done one, then that would have been a downtick.

If, OTOH, its the first state poll in NH by CBS News, then its the poll that establishes the benchmark for future trendlines, and thus gives no tick at all in either direction.

One of the big wildcards in NH is that the tighter the screen, the better John Edwards tends to do, so if the Republican primary seems interesting in January, and more independents vote in the Republican primary, that's good news for John Edwards, and if the Republican primary seems settled or discouraging, that's likely to be good news for Senator Obama.

by BruceMcF 2007-11-13 03:16PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards is not rising

What do you mean by "personal" attack?  He argues she is not likely to be agent of change on the issue of corporate influence in Washington since she is one of the biggest recipients of corporate lobbyist money and she "defends" the system. He says it is "double-talk" to say you'll end the war but maintain combat troops in Iraq.  He says he's telling it "straight", he's being more honest with the voters.

Isn't that pretty standard stuff in a political campaign?  Should anyone take it personally?

by Rob in Vermont 2007-11-13 01:55PM | 0 recs
Re: 5 Short Posts About Edwards

I like the analysis. Here's where JRE was calling it right once again when he said he was reminded of Bush when he heard the planting story. There is a distinction in criticizing a policy and not a person. To react personally is immature. clinton's staffers are reacting in a petulant way - or is it Clinton? I never thought I would agree with gasp the New Republic on anything, but here it is: Bunker Hillary, on reporter's take on her campaign

Though few dare offer specifics for the record--"They're too smart," one furtively confides. "They'll figure out who I am"--privately, they recount excruciating battles to secure basic facts. Innocent queries are met with deep suspicion. Only surgically precise questioning yields relevant answers.

Hillary's aides don't hesitate to use access as a blunt instrument, as when they killed off a negative GQ story on the campaign by threatening to stop cooperating with a separate Bill Clinton story the magazine had in the works. Reporters' jabs and errors are long remembered, and no hour is too odd for an angry phone call.

Clinton aides are especially swift to bypass reporters and complain to top editors. "They're frightening!" says one reporter who has covered Clinton. "They don't see [reporting] as a healthy part of the process. They view this as a ruthless kill-or-be-killed game."

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?i d=6e01fdce-ad97-4dab-a07d-bf98dc52f681
snip
It's enough to make you suspect that breeding fear and paranoia within the press corps is itself part of the Clinton campaign's strategy. And, if that sounds familiar, it may be because the Clinton machine, say reporters and pro-Hillary Democrats, is emulating nothing less than the model of the Bush White House, which has treated the press with thinly veiled contempt and minimal cooperation.

"The Bush administration changed the rules," as one scribe puts it--and the Clintonites like the way they look.

by mrobinsong 2007-11-13 01:29PM | 0 recs
Re: 5 Short Posts About Edwards

Sounds like ole Bill Richardson has given up all pretenses of winning the nomination and is going straight for VP. Has good connections to the Clintons, is a latino, good resume, is a governor, and now is carrying Hillary's water.

If Richardson is going after Edwards, then maybe Clinton isn't worried about Obama in Iowa?

I'd be willing to bet Richardson bows out about a week before Iowa.

by bobestes 2007-11-13 01:33PM | 0 recs
Re: 5 Short Posts About Edwards

Nah, he has to be there to do damage to Edwards or Obama through NH.  

THEN he drops out.

by Rooktoven 2007-11-13 01:35PM | 0 recs
Re: 5 Short Posts About Edwards

He should know he won't survive the Clinton vetting for VP.  Maybe he wants another Administration job.

by ohiomeister 2007-11-13 03:38PM | 0 recs
No, its that Senator Clinton realizes ...

... that she has to tackle Obama directly ... 4 attacking 2 for no good strategic benefit to 4 would be too suspicious to get covered.

by BruceMcF 2007-11-13 01:56PM | 0 recs
Re: 5 Short Posts About Edwards

Thanks for this.

by Will 2007-11-13 01:40PM | 0 recs
Re: 5 Short Posts About Edwards

Edwards is proving over and over again that he has the chops. He can fight, he can win, and knows how to take the issues to the front burner, and not just the hitting.

Very well done Mr. Edwards.

He doesnt call anyone a liar and let you decide how or why he's right. (Of course he doesn't, He is not a republican.) He does however point out very real inconsistencies in, for example, HRC's speeches that point to future disappointments.

Either for example 1) to ones who think we need to stay in Iraq for a while to cover "our responsiblity" or because "we fight them there so we dont ...etc." --- or HRC will disappoint 2) the people who believe she is saying she will leave, and pull out of Iraq. Because she says both, one set of supporters will be wrong about what they believe her to say.

This is not an attack like a republican saying "those liberals dont like you" -- it is a policy discussion. Which is necessary to choose a President.

Very well done Mr. Edwards.

By contrasting (and threatening) congress's own  government mandated healthcare (vs the rest of us) -Mr. Edwards is placing himself in a position to pressure blue dog democrats (and the rest of congress) without attacking them or the Democratic Party. Protecting our Party while pushing us forward, some of the best progressives in our history knew how to do these things. Lincoln and Roosevelt for example, knew how they played the game.

Very well done Mr. Edwards.

He is admired by the people in the countryside who are sick and damn tired of mealy-mouthed, oatmeal-spined, self-important double-speak masters. For too long the republicans have captured A LOT of this "demographic" with talk of "outside the beltway" "throw the bums out" "small government" and "low taxes." (If there aren't any real services anymore -- why pay for them?) And he does it, unlike some people who should know better, not by adopting republican talking points and trying to paint themselves as "unpolitical" "outside the beltway," and "bipartisan" but by actually having a spine, actually saying what he means and being unafraid of the people. Katrina is the result of republicans tearing down the government, making government small and weak. Solutions to Katrina are not tax reductions and
smaller government. Excuses are not housing, the market doesnt give a damn.

Very well done Mr. Edwards

He has really low negatives, except among flacks.

Very well done Mr. Edwards.

His stated principles are bed-rock rock solid Democratic Party values. Some of them values that have been "hidden until we have the votes," "put on the back burner," "left in the closet" or "betrayed" in the last decade or three. John is not McGovern who we loved but worried wouldnt carry the ball, nor too shy for the hard grid iron hits. He is what we want, and has the intestinal fortitude (I mean guts guys) to pull it off.

Very well done John.

His is the most electable of our candidates! I am impressed not just with the stated principles of the people running for us, but with their actions leading up to this point, where-ever the have worked. Many of them could win. But I believe that John Edwards won't just win, his coattails will be huge, I think he will win big and will carry a lot of democrats into congress and into state houses and governorships. All of them with a mandate for change.

hahha ok so Im repetitive its a writing style. (inexile leans around this apology to wave and say "Well done John.")

His first real "win" in this primary season was staying in the top tier. It could easily have been a two person race. The undefined Charisma of Barrack Obama against the undefined Celebrity of HRC. We dont know why each is so unclear about who they are, and what they will do, but we have a right to take it into account when choosing our candidate and President. He stayed in the top tier, then he became a contender and now his latest "win" --he became the contender to watch. Thats the kind of fight we need, and not just to become President, but after he's won, to get done what we need to get done.

Mr. Edwards, my respects.

I urge you to make up your mind right now. make a list of what you want: in a candidate, in an election and in a President. Don't delay the season is getting late, the possibilities are amazing, but fate needs you.

President Edwards, my admiration.

by inexile 2007-11-13 02:58PM | 0 recs
Re: 5 Short Posts About Edwards

Well he did just send out 100,000 80 page booklets to Iowa caucus-goers explaining his proposed policies.

That's a pretty substantive message don't you think?

by adamterando 2007-11-14 04:01AM | 0 recs
Re: 5 Short Posts About Edwards

I personally heard Richardson spew that whopper on live radio and about had my head explode.  I'm glad people are calling him on it, it's an outright lie.  Hillary didn't say that or Obama either, but it helps Hillary if he lumps Edwards together with her.  Feh.

All great points, thanks for the post!!!!!!!!

by Ellinorianne 2007-11-13 03:07PM | 0 recs
Re: 5 Short Posts About Edwards

your Clinton-Giuliani numbers are backwards !

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_conte nt/politics/election_2008__1/2008_presid ential_election/election_2008_clinton_vs _giuliani_thompson

It's:

Clinton 48
Giuliani 42

As this is from JREs web page -- is it an honest mistake or just more spin from the Edwards' campaign ?

by silver spring 2007-11-13 03:09PM | 0 recs
Re: 5 Short Posts About Edwards

But CBS polls shows Hillary edging in front of Edwards edging in front of Obama ... and all of that at well under 95% confidence.

What you have there is more like the NH poll.

by BruceMcF 2007-11-13 03:18PM | 0 recs
Nice diary

Thanks for writing this!

Edwards is my choice for 2008!

by dk2 2007-11-13 03:35PM | 0 recs
Re: 5 Short Posts About Edwards

Not sure if y'all have seen this . But it sure as hell reminds me which side I'm on.

by desmoulins 2007-11-13 04:58PM | 0 recs
Re: 5 Short Posts About Edwards

OOps thats the wrong link. Kinda ruins the effect. What I meant was this

by desmoulins 2007-11-13 05:03PM | 0 recs
Humanitarian Missions

As a former Marine, let me volunteer to "guard humanitarian missions" in Iraq.  But, would you first allow me to buy additional life insurance, write my family a farewell letter, and give all my gear away to my buddies?  One thing is for sure, I ain't coming back.

How many troops does it take for these so-called humanitarian missions?  Since we would, under the Edwards plan, no longer have combat troops, who would these guards be?  Military police? An additional brigade or two of embassy guards?  How many more thousands of Americans must die, sacrificed on the altar in the midst of the Gardens of Allah?

John Edwards refused to commit to bringing all our troops home by 2013.  That's a tetst of leadership, not fancy speeches or cute fundraising drives.  Leadership is stepping out in front, and motioning the others to follow.  

Bring them home, bring them all home.  The only candidate speaking with clarity is Bill Richardson.

by VeniceDave 2007-11-14 06:55AM | 0 recs
Re: Humanitarian Missions

My mom used to say that the only reason a man doesn't do what he says he's going to do is that his word's no good.

I don't see how any candidate can commit to a particular date. In the case of Bill Richardson, in one debate, he even committed to bringing troops home at a rate that the other candidates pointed out wasn't physically possible.

I haven't seen Bill Richardson, other than in his debates, but, from those, I'm not so sure how committed he is to his campaign promises.

I'd also say that calling for defunding the war, other than for funds to bring troops home, is leadership under the criteria you define.

by awgupta 2007-11-14 09:26AM | 0 recs

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