Breaking: Rudy Makes Shit Up In His New Ad

More Republican ad ridiculousness, this time from Rudy Giuliani who crassly uses his latest radio ad, "Chances", to exploit his own diagnosis of (and subsequent recovery from) prostate cancer several years ago for the purposes of attacking his imagined bogeyman version of universal healthcare. And I thought McCain's self-exploitation was creepy.

You can listen to the ad HERE.

It begins:

"I had, uh, prostate cancer, five, six years ago," recalls Giuliani. "My chance of surviving prostate cancer and thank God I was cured of it, in the United States, 82%. My chances of surviving prostate cancer in England, only 44% under socialized medicine."

It should come as no surprise to hear that this is yet another in a long line of baseless exaggerated claims from Giuliani. Good for ABC News's blog Political Radar for doing the digging (h/t TPM):

But the data Giuliani cites comes from a single study published eight years ago by a not-for-profit group, and is contradicted by official data from the British government.

According to the United Kingdom's Office for National Statistics, for men diagnosed with prostate cancer between 1999 and 2003, the "five-year survival rate" -- a common measurement in cancer statistics -- was 74.4 percent.

I know, Rudy, facts are hard. Ezra Klein schools the serial exaggerator some more.

England and America have vritually the same mortality rates from prostate cancer. In England (as of 1997), 28 males of every 100,000 died from prostate cancer. In America, then number was 26. The difference comes in "incidence" -- there are many more diagnoses of prostate cancer in America, as we have an aggressive screening process.

And as for that one rogue study that is the sole source of the "statistic" i n Rudy's ad? Take a wild guess.

The article, "The Ugly Truth About Canadian Health Care," was written by David Gratzer, a physician who is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute and is a healthcare adviser to the Giuliani campaign.

Of course.

In true wingnut fashion, Giuliani closes the ad with this priceless right-wing healthcare talking point:

We have the best healthcare system in the world...

Which recalls Meteor Blades' excellent dailyKos post from earlier today, which eloquently makes the point that quality care is useless without access to it:

You don't have to go far to find someone - George Bush, for instance - who will spout the typical propaganda: America has "the best health care system in the world." True enough if you're a Congressperson or hoi oligoi who can afford to pay for treatment at one of the nation's top medical centers. But, compared with other nations in the developed world, the U.S. does a rotten job of delivering good care... As plenty of us know firsthand, even Americans with fairly decent health coverage often find it hard to get the treatment the "best health care system in the world" should be providing.

Giuliani's demonization of the government's role in expanding that access and his faith-based reliance on the market to work it all out should add yet another nail in the coffin of the myth that Giuliani is anything but a right-wing nut and should make it clear that a Giuliani presidency would be nothing short of Bush's third term.

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Re: Breaking: Rudy Makes Shit Up In His New Ad

Has anyone in the traditional media called Rudy out on this?

by Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle 2007-10-29 05:26PM | 0 recs
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Well, have our Democratic candidates called Rudi out on this?  Or any of his other bullshit, for that matter?

I keep saying that the media are the enemy, Republicans are merely the opposition.  But I am not willing to condemn the media on this one just yet.  Calling bullshit on political ads is, in the first instance, a job for the opposing politicians.  That's partly why we give money to our guys:  so they can afford to air ads in response to GOP ads.

Rudi is not leading the GOP race by virtue of bashing Romney, McCain or Thompson.  He's leading by virtue of bashing Hillary at the drop of a hat -- and bringing his own supply of hats.  You'd think Hillary, at least, would get around to calling him out at some point.  Does she seriously imagine it's too early to start counterpunching against Rudi and the GOPers in general?

Sure, "the media" could do a better job.  But it would help if the Dems started doing theirs.

-- TP  

by Rethymniotis 2007-10-29 08:41PM | 0 recs
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I think Bush is Rudy Lite.

by Canaan 2007-10-29 05:33PM | 0 recs
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Except of course that rich morons like Rudy would have private healthcare here in Britain anyway.

The real difference? If the average man in the street gets prostate cancer here, he doesn't have to remortgage his house to pay for his care.

by Englishlefty 2007-10-29 06:48PM | 0 recs
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I have family in Britain and its very hard to get them to understand that one illness can force you into bankruptcy.  The concept is totally foreign to them.  Sad that after all these years and with our healthcare system imploding people like Rudy still think they can laugh at other countries who provide healthcare for their people. Rudy is totally deluded. Its the other countries are laughing at us.  

by changingroom 2007-10-29 09:03PM | 0 recs
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Rudy is a total weirdo. How about the 47 million Americans without healthcare.  How would they fare in the USA vs. Britain.  

by changingroom 2007-10-29 08:58PM | 0 recs
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How could our politicians not think this country has the best healthcare system in the world--when we citizens provide them the best healthcare.  But they don't feel they need to return the favor.  

by changingroom 2007-10-29 09:06PM | 0 recs
Thx 4 Factchk; Rudy's LIE reminds me of W's SOTU

TODD - - - Thanks for the FACTCHECK on Rotten Rudy (I congratulate you on your "Spidey-sense" because the moment I heard Rudy's truth-stretching claim-disguised- as fact I was wondering where's the source on that bogus tid bit?)  My opinion of the tough-talking Red Sox-rooting Yankees' fan has diminished greatly in recent weeks and this little FACTOID only adds to my assessment - - - - - A 40% disparity between Britain and the US on prostate cancer survival rate?  Gimme a friggin' break - - - Anybody who would play so fast and loose with the truth would have no problem cookin' the books Enron-style on his State of the Union speeches with truth-stretchers such as these: British intelligence has confirmed that Saddam recently purchased yellowcake uranium from a country in north Africa...Was it Mark Twain who said there are three kinds of LIES: Lies, damned LIES and statistics?  Another cliche that comes to mind: "Statistics don't lie, but LIARS use statistics" ---Take a bow Rotten Rudy (that be YOU) Is it any wonder that one of Rudy's own children would not vote for him (his daughter I believe)- - - To quote BUBBA's recent shout down/finger wag of hecklers: "How dare you"  Another piece of evidence Giuliani's condemnation of "socialized medicine" glosses over: What percentage of population stricken with prostate cancer is unable to afford early detection diagnosis/treatment in the USA compared to UK - Canada - France - Sweden - Denmark - Spain - Italy (insert western-style Democracy other than US here)?  GIULIANI is a ticking time BOMB - - - If Romney (the most unscrupulous and best-financed of his primary foes) really wanted to SINK that SHIP, he would LAUNCH a Swiftboats-style BLITZ showing incriminating video of GIULIANI's penchant for CROSS-DRESSING - - - the spoof of a bosomy Rudy dressed in drag getting sniffed on by Donald Trump at a department store perfume counter is HILLARY-ous, but what about the other times ROTTEN RUDY "struck a pose" as a cross-dresser?  Methinks Rudy a closet J. Edgar Hoover Wanna-be ... and while I'm at it, Obama's little "Gettin' Jiggy With It" Dancy Bear Act on Ellen was a bit "unpresidential" as well --- REAGAN on a Horse? YES --- Bare-chested PUTIN chopping WOOD? YES --- RUDY in DRAG?  NO --- Dukakis in a TANK?  NO - - - OBAMA workin his MOJO?  NO

by Progressive Populist 2007-10-30 08:24AM | 0 recs

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