Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

Congressional Quarterly (sorry, no link available) has the story:

Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman wants to be called an Independent Democrat -- "capital I, capital D," he has specified. But many official records and most press accounts have been describing him either as a Democrat, his party by registration, or an independent, a reflection of the fact that he won his fourth Senate term from Connecticut last fall on his own ballot line. And last week, his office said that, if his compound modifier of choice was not acceptable, Lieberman wants to be pegged as an independent, and no longer a Democrat.

"If you're not going to go with `ID,' we strongly feel that you should go with `I,' because he was elected as an independent," said Lieberman's new chief spokesman, Marshall Wittmann. "He still considers himself a Democrat, but the better reflection of his elected position is that he's an independent."

The issue was forced when the Senate held its first roll calls of the 110th Congress and the secretary of the Senate's official tally labeled Lieberman as an `I.' News organizations, including the Associated Press and Congressional Quarterly, then pressed the senator's office for an explanation. [emphasis added]

I think this story just about speaks for itself.

Tags: Joe Lieberman (all tags)

Comments

41 Comments

Wittman is a piece of crap

The "Independents" had a candidate and it wasn't Lieberman. He should be listed a (CL) to honestly reflect the fact he ran as a Connecticut for Lieberman candidate. If anyone has any questions about that party, please call the head, Dr. John Orman.

by Bob Brigham 2007-01-19 09:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Wittman is a piece of crap

Does that mean Bernie Sanders should have (S) after his name? Just curious.

by Joe Gabriel 2007-01-19 10:15AM | 0 recs
Re: Wittman is a piece of crap

You know... that was stupid. Just ignore that comment, please.

by Joe Gabriel 2007-01-19 10:16AM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

I disagree. He is showing respect for the voters here - they elected him as an independent not as a Democrat - and for Ned Lamont who was the Democratic candidate.

I am not a Lieberman fan, to say the least, but he did the right thing here. He was not elected as a Democrat.

by Populism2008 2007-01-19 09:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

Then he should probably have an 'R'.  That's who actually elected him.

by NJIndependent 2007-01-19 09:25AM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

Principled Republicans had their candidate: Alan Schlesinger.

by HellofaSandwich 2007-01-19 09:28AM | 0 recs
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Which is apparently only a small minority of Republicans...

by NJIndependent 2007-01-19 10:58AM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

No, they didn't elect him as an independant. Lieberman was clearly identified on the ballot as the "Connecticut for Lieberman" or CfL canidate and that's what he should be identified as.

by Quinton 2007-01-19 10:07AM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

Well, I thought "independent" meant not Democratic nor Republican.

by Populism2008 2007-01-19 12:44PM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

"independent" yes; "Independent" no, it is an actual party, they had their own candidate and it wasn't Joementum. I think it is OK to say 'Joe Lieberman (i)', but it is not to say 'Joe Lieberman (I)'

by Bob Brigham 2007-01-19 04:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

Technically, I think every Republican could be called a (d) due to being elected in a Democracy but they aren't (D)s

by Bob Brigham 2007-01-19 04:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

Except...he's already been kicked out of the CFL party, hasn't he?

by chaboard 2007-01-19 03:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

Nope.  He left CfL voluntarily.  CfL party rules state that the party is open to anyone who is a critic of Senator Lieberman, and anyone who is named 'Lieberman'.

by Fran for Dean 2007-01-20 09:46AM | 0 recs
Good riddance

I'd prefer if he stopped calling himself a "Democrat" anyway since he's not one.  Good riddance, I say.

by Fran for Dean 2007-01-19 09:11AM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

I say "T" is more accurate. T for Turncoat.

by nezua limon xolagrafik jonez 2007-01-19 09:19AM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

Who's Joe Lieberman? Never heard of him.

by nstrauss 2007-01-19 09:23AM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

I can't help but comment that Marshall Wittman is the new spokesman for Lieberman. If ever two people deserved each other...

by KB 2007-01-19 09:31AM | 0 recs
Wittman

Wonder if he still refers to himself in the third person, now that he's not The Moose anymore.

I'm just as glad that Lieberman's officially an I.  He sure ain't one of ours.  I'd like to see the Sunday morning talk shows identify him as an independent, too, so that Lieberman isn't used to 'balance' their guest lists.

by RT 2007-01-19 10:51AM | 0 recs
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Actually, I am glad Lieberman doesn't want to be listed as a Democrat; the fact that the talking heads continue to do so has frustrated me for some time.

It seems to me that Lieberman's big claim to fame -- the thing that kept getting him TV invitations -- was that he provided cover for the Republicans:  he was a "serious Democrat" who could "work with the [wingnuts] in office."

But shouldn't his stock go down if he is no longer referred to as a Democrat?  Now he isn't someone from the real opposition party making an appearance and urging us to just trust in Junior.  Now he'll actually be identified as the political hack that he is, a man who got into office because he personally feels entitled to it.

If the American public are treated to a screen filled with three Republicans and an Independent, I think it would do a lot to undermine this "bipartisan Republicans' speaking point that they've been trying to float.  (REM - Lieberman was the only name mentioned by Junior during his 'Escalation Speech,' and he was mentioned specifically so Junior could claim he was working on a bipartisan basis.)

Let's call it like it is:  Lieberman is no Democrat!

by Swellsman 2007-01-19 10:05AM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

Or is Connecticut for Lieberman the ultimate opposition party to work with the White House. 100% unity on every issue.

by Bob Brigham 2007-01-19 10:10AM | 0 recs
I agree.

If everyone calls Lieberman an Indpendent, his man-bites-dog appearances as a pro-Bush Democrat are over.

by EricJaffa 2007-01-19 11:52AM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

Time to start writing to the talk show producers who have Joe's number on speed dial. Why do they keep booking the sole Independent senator, but not a Democratic one? There is whole bunch of Dem senators with a national profile.

by kvenlander 2007-01-19 10:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

Great question.

by Joe Gabriel 2007-01-19 10:17AM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

Bernie isn't a democrat, anymore than Lieberman is. You almost never hear Bernie referred to a an independent, or socialist.  NPR did refer to him as an independent this morning, but it's the first time I've ever heard them do it.

Leiberman may be an independent, but it's in name only.

Bernie is an independent, not now or never officially running for office with either party.

I think the media may be scared of giving too much attention to the idea that there are non-democratic/ republican options. We need about 10 more Bernies' in the Senate & 50 in the House.

by pwapvt 2007-01-19 11:06AM | 0 recs
On Bernie.

  Well, he did list as a Democrat to win the Senate primary.  He immediately rejected the nomination as everyone expected, and then became an independent again.  And then Sanders and the Vermont Democratic party held hands and sang songs.

by cilerder86 2007-01-19 11:40AM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

Can we 'list you' as Bush's buttboy?

In six months it will be Lieberman who? The guy is done. His usefulness to the ReThug Party will be minimal as...

The ReThugs are now powerless. And....

They are scared. Scared that Bush will do something so heinous, so stupid, so idiotic that is means the loss of any opportunity for their Party of Greed, Death and Treason to return to power for a generation.

Something like...

a 'Surge'....
.

by Pericles 2007-01-19 11:18AM | 0 recs
Make up your mind!

    Even this supposed clarification is wishy-washy.  I still say we should call him Liberman (D-CfL).  Maybe he should make Mondays, Democratic days, Tuesdays, "Independent" days, Wednesdays, Republican days, and so on...

by cilerder86 2007-01-19 11:38AM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

Wonder how this is playing in CT?

by johnalive 2007-01-19 11:39AM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

You mean the NutBall state?

by Pericles 2007-01-19 02:24PM | 0 recs
Unity 08

If Romney or someone not named McCain get the GOP nominiation, we might see a McCain / Lieberman ticket.

by dereau 2007-01-19 12:01PM | 0 recs
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All that matters to me is who he votes with. He voted on the ethics legislation with the Democrats, and wouldn't go along with the Rethugs attempts to philibuster. He even pushed his own amendment to form an ethics office in the Senate.

As long as he caucuses with the Democrats, he can call himself a Retarded Gerbil for all I care.

He may turn out to be our own version of Arlen Spector. Talks across the aisle, but when it comes time to vote, or pull some really sneaky procedural stuff (like inserting the provision in conference committee that allowed Bush to fire the 10 U.S. attorneys and appoint replacements), he comes back home.

by gas28man 2007-01-19 12:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

You mean he's NOT a retarded gerbil? He sure looks like one.

by jukesgrrl 2007-01-19 06:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

Funny that I could come to dislike him even more after his reelection.  He's going to have the challenge of a lifetime when his reelection comes up, if he intends to run again.

by John Nicosia 2007-01-19 01:25PM | 0 recs
Lieberman--LSOB

if it's truth we're going for, here.

You know, "Lying SOB."

by Paul Rosenberg 2007-01-19 01:47PM | 0 recs
The ideology of it
Lieberman is an independent the way Rush Limbaugh is a self-described independent. By their examples, they are trying to define (frame) the politics of being an independent as a right-wing leaning place on the spectrum.
Also, if independents identify with them by their independent branding, then they will be more able to influence people's thinking. Pretty important when it's the swinging independents that win the election in many places in our 50/50 country.
I don't like it, but it's still better than having Leiberman rotting away the party's values from within.
by johnalive 2007-01-19 01:48PM | 0 recs
The Proper Letter

"O" for "Other."

Lieberman won as the Connecticut for Lieberman Party's candidate. He's not a Democrat, Republican, or Independent. (Independent means no party.)

So it should be "Senator Joseph Lieberman (O-CT)." Of course it doesn't hurt that the letter "O" resembles the digit zero.

by BBCWatcher 2007-01-19 04:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

How about Joe, party of one?

by Ken Camp 2007-01-19 05:58PM | 0 recs
Lieberman will filibuster w Repubs

"Independent Democrat" Lieberman says he thinks a troop surge is "important" and necessary.

So he will join REPUBLICANS in a filibuster against the Dems' attempts to quash a troop surge with a non-binding bill that states opposition to the added troops!!

by MS 2007-01-19 06:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

Joe Lieberman is no Democrat, he just shits on that side of the aisle.

by JohnQPublic 2007-01-19 07:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Lieberman: Don't List Me as a Democrat

Talking at length to All Things Considered Friday, Lieberman slandered the Democratic Party by saying in reference to Iraq that "if they cannot demonstrate a willingness to defend the country, they will not be successful".

How does objection to an illegal, stupid, self-destructive war amount to an unwillingness to defend the country?

Joe Lieberman is a demagogue.

by Bob H 2007-01-20 02:33AM | 0 recs
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