Whither Katrina?

Bush and the Republican leadership let an American city be destroyed, and they let 9/11 happen.  This needs to be made clear every time the Republicans argue that they are competent on national security.  

They aren't.  They are criminally negligent at best.  These are bad people, morally hollow, and they deserve sharp punishment for their role in these moral travesties.

Here's a question, though.  Why isn't Katrina becoming a political football?  Why aren't we talking about Katrina as it relates to Iraq and national security?  My gut says that there was little effective political organizing to fight on Katrina, but I'm genuinely perplexed and somewhat upset by this gaping hole in our national discourse.  Bush and the Republicans lost an American city, and they are too maliciously power-hungry and weak to put it back together.  It's just that simple.

Update: Kagro X is absolutely right.

Whither Mary Landrieu? Crass though it may seem, this is a political web site, so I'll just point out that Katrina could have made Mary Landrieu's career. She could have beaten George Bush over the head with it for an entire year.

Instead, she settled for table scraps (most of which never showed, anyway), and got rolled time and again in one of the sickest and most pathetic games of go-along-to-get-along ever played.

A year filled with crucial bills, Supreme Court nominations, nuclear option fights, filibusters, secret holds, and Lord knows what else, and Mary Landrieu couldn't make an issue out of George Bush drowning her own home town.

Mary Landrieu may be the single worst Democratic Senator out there. Her home town was destroyed due to right-wing ineptitude and malice, and she turned around and helped the assholes who did it. Landrieu is going to wind up chasing an empty banner, stung by wasps.

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40 Comments

Re: Whither Katrina?

Good question.

Perhaps we should hire some consultants to answer it for us.

by jgkojak 2006-09-06 06:31PM | 0 recs
Re: Whither Katrina?

"Health care."

That'll be $17,000, please.

by Kagro X 2006-09-06 07:17PM | 0 recs
It DOES get irritating...

 ...that WE have to do all the work.

 By "we" I mean the Democratic grassroots and netroots, and other local heroes.

 Our House and Senate leadership fails us almost daily. They almost ALWAYS have to be coaxed into actually behaving like an opposition party, whether the issue is Iraq, Katrina, radical judges, warrantless wiretapping, John Bolton, anything. They seem to be pathologically afraid of taking ANY kind of fight to the Republicans -- even when said Republicans are ripe for the taking.

  And this is why the Democrats lose elections.

  I honestly can't figure it out. How could the party of such great, energetic, committed Americans like Roosevelt, Truman, and Kennedy fall almost completely bereft of anyone who will stand for the party's traditional values? I mean, when our House leader is someone as politically bipolar as Rahm Emanuel, it's no wonder we don't get any traction.

  The Democratic Party does retain a few strong, forceful spokesmen -- Dean, Clark, Feingold, Murtha. But the party power structure itself works overtime to marginalize them. It's almost like the Hillarys of the world are afraid of being shown up by those who remember what Democrats are SUPPOSED to sound like. It's criminal that Republicans like Hagel are harsher war critics than almost anyone the Democrats throw out there.

 So that's my answer: We have no official leadership. The PEOPLE are doing yeoman work, but the established party infrastructure does everything it can to make our lives more difficult.

by Master Jack 2006-09-06 06:43PM | 0 recs
Re: Whither Katrina?

i agree with you Matt, the Katrina anniversary/storyline has not been as potent as it should be.

two main reasons for this:

1) bush/rumsfeld uping the rhetoric by sprinkling their recent speeches with 'nazis' and 'fascism' to go with the round 5 year anniversary of 9/11.

2) this has been a quiet hurricane season so far.  

I feel awful saying this, but once another hurricane has its sights set on Carolina/Florida or god forbid the Gulf Coast, you can bet the new media narratives will be "What lessons have we learned from Katrina" "Are we prepared?" "Can the gov't handle this one".

until then 9/11 trumps it.

by padraig26 2006-09-06 06:45PM | 0 recs
Re: Whither Katrina?

I'm afraid there is another reason - bigotry. I hear a lot of people repeating the Republican line about how the displaced residents are all criminals who just want to get welfare and won't work to repair their own homes.

I guess I've fallen into another timewarp, It's 1950.

by antiHyde 2006-09-06 07:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Whither Katrina?

absolutely.  good point that i missed.  

That idiot Glenn Beck was spouting some that on CNN with a Houston radio host, on how they "opened their hearts, and look how they are repaid.  with rising crime rates"

by padraig26 2006-09-06 07:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Whither Katrina?

I hate to say this but the vast majority of Katrina's victims were poor and African-American. And if you're a single or married blue-collar or middle-class white woman in one of those contested battleground districts in Ohio or Pennsylvania, a year later, you could care less about those flighty dark-skinned folks who couldn't be bothered to get out of the way of a Category 4 hurricane. If Katrina had taken out a Caucasian city -- Houston, say, or Tampa -- the tragedy would resonate more with swing voters.

Sadly, tragically -- and this speaks volumes about the American character in 2006 -- centrist white voters couldn't give a shit.

Just look at Joe Lieberman. He made such a fuss about Katrina in the immediate aftermath but has kept silent since then.

by BrklynDad 2006-09-06 07:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Whither Katrina?

Whither Katrina?

Whither Mary Landrieu? Crass though it may seem, this is a political web site, so I'll just point out that Katrina could have made Mary Landrieu's career. She could have beaten George Bush over the head with it for an entire year.

Instead, she settled for table scraps (most of which never showed, anyway), and got rolled time and again in one of the sickest and most pathetic games of go-along-to-get-along ever played.

A year filled with crucial bills, Supreme Court nominations, nuclear option fights, filibusters, secret holds, and Lord knows what else, and Mary Landrieu couldn't make an issue out of George Bush drowning her own home town.

by Kagro X 2006-09-06 07:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Whither Katrina?

In the general category of "she'll get hers", the diaspora of the NO Black community means that LA's statewide elections will be Republican for the foreseeable future.

Of course, that screws us out of a nominally Dem Senate seat as well.

by jsw 2006-09-06 08:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Whither Katrina?

You know what? I actually hope Landrieu does lose in 2008. Only if she's the deciding vote on the leadership is she worth having around. Except possibly for Nelson-NE she is the worst Senate Dem on environmental issues. She voted for the bankruptcy bill, etc. Moreover, she's inept. She sold out I don't know how many votes to get more Katrina relief, and isn't that going well? Do we see her clamoring for better oversight of the funds? Do we see her leading the reconstruction efforts?

Democratic politicians like Landrieu destroy the brand and it's better if they lose, even at the cost of a seat in a conservative state. When people say they don't know what democrats stand for, it's pols like Landrieu who are the reason.

by taliesin 2006-09-06 08:51PM | 0 recs
Landrieu is no Lieberman

She is right-wing in many ways, but then again, she is in a red state. In red states, perhaps we should take what we can get. What is crazy is tolerating closet Republicans like Lieberman in blue states like Connecticut. And Landrieu may be generally lame, but she is lame like Ben Nelson. I don't see her going on TV hurting her own party by mouthing bullshit Republican narratives ala Joenertia and Evan Bayh. Here is at least one example of her performing admirably on TV during a Tweety interview with the "Gang of 14":

Hardball last night featured most of the gang of 14 Senate compromisers. Tweety gleefully threw the Dean quote at the Dems to incite some Dean dissing. A couple of them went for it, and everyone was tittering about Dean like he's not fit to hang out with the kool kids. When the question went to Mary Landrieu, she ignored the specific quote and started talking about the importance of Dean's main point that people shouldn't have to wait in 8 hour lines to vote. Tweety made one futile attempt to get her to address the specific quote, but she just kept talking about the voting issue until Tweety started talking over her and changed the subject. Biden, Edwards, and all the rest of the Dems should take a lesson from Mary Landrieu.

by miasmo on Tue Jun 07, 2005 at 11:08:34 AM PDT

by miasmo 2006-09-06 09:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Landrieu is no Lieberman

There's innept, and then there criminally negligent- Katrina, and her actions there speak volumns. She needs to go. I am partisan, and I want the Democrats to win- but this is probably the only issue I don't budget on. This isn't about blame games as Bush called it. It's about responsibility, and I agree with those above that those who should take responsibility haven't because of the color of those displaced in the NOLA diaspora.

by bruh21 2006-09-07 04:51AM | 0 recs
Re: Whither Katrina?

One word. RACE. There has been lots of organizing about/by Katrina's victims but "those people" don't count in American politics. Not in LA, but also not in our tactical discussions.

Mary Landrieu never had any real relations with the victims and the victims probably don't really distinguish her from any of their other rulers. No prior connectons means no room to manuever now, unless you are/become a hero. Democrats are not only short on elementary tactical sense, they are also short on heroism. They can't rise to need because they don't rise, period.

But they are all we got.

by janinsanfran 2006-09-07 06:12AM | 0 recs
Re: Whither Katrina?

Mary Landrieu may be the single worst Democratic Senator out there.

It's certain that none is worse.

Her home town was destroyed due to right-wing ineptitude and malice, and she turned around and helped the assholes who did it.

That's because she's one of them in all but name.

Landrieu is going to wind up chasing an empty banner, stung by wasps.

Landrieu will jump to the GOP next year. I'll be the first to say ood riddance, Bloody Mary.

by Sitkah 2006-09-06 07:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Whither Katrina?

And yet, if she had, say, filibustered the Supreme Court nominees -- held their nominations hostage to a thorough, generous and efficient bailout and reconstruction of New Orleans -- she'd be fielding multiple VP feelers about now.

by Kagro X 2006-09-06 07:50PM | 0 recs
Give her a break
She's better than opponents Woody Jenkins or Suzanne Haik Terrell and what other senator has threatened Bush with physical violence ("I might likely have to punch him - literally")?
I'm sure Mary Landrieu has had to deal with the consequences of Katrina every single day and she doesn't deserve to be treated badly by the blogosphere.
by ChgoSteve 2006-09-06 08:16PM | 0 recs
Re: Give her a break

She's worse (and also better) in one way than any possible Republican opponent, which is that she carries a D after her name. This means that by repeatedly voting like a Republican, she makes the Democratic label meaningless. The "better" part is that she will (probably) vote for Reid for majority leader. That said, I hope she loses in '08 (not that I need to wish for it, since, as others have noted, without the NOLA African-American voters, she's toast). I hope this loss will not cost us the Senate, but even if it does, or might, I won't give her a cent.

by taliesin 2006-09-06 08:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Give her a break

She only threatened Bush with violence after Anderson Cooper freaked out at her on air for thanking Bush, Frist, and Reid for their relief efforts in the days after Katrina hit.  Anderson, as you may recall, completely spazzed, saying he thought it was completely inappropriate for politicians to be back-slapping each other in the face of a major ongoing humanitarian crisis.  Landrieu appeared visually stunned, and 24 or 48 hours later we got the "I wanna slug the President" quote.

I hate to join a MyDD-style pile-on, but... yeah, that was completely fucking transparent and unconvincing (at least for me).

by HellofaSandwich 2006-09-06 10:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Give her a break

exactly right about when she started to react. I was pissed off at her and Blanco for their ineffectual response after the disaster- they were acting like it was business as usual although a city was destroyed. It was trully fucked up display on their part. I may have problems with Naggins foot in mouth disease- but at least his emotional intensity was appropriate to the circumstances.

by bruh21 2006-09-07 04:53AM | 0 recs
What about Ray Nagin?

I agree about Mary Landrieu, her response has been thoroughly incompetent in every sense.  But what about Ray Nagin?  When asked why it was taking so long to rebuild New Orleans, he referred to the ground zero rebuilding effort.  Why doesn't he say that New Orleans is not being rebuilt as it should be because of President Bush? As much as Mary Landrieu, Ray Nagin should be travelling all over the country, giving power-point presentations about Hurricane Katrina's aftermath and talking to people about how the power is still not back in many neighborhoods, and how most houses have still not been rebuilt.  Instead of defensively talking about his personal record, he should be talking about the misplaced priorities of our country (as well as Senator Landrieu) and reminding our country that George Bush doesn't give a damn about poor people.  

by gobacktotexas 2006-09-06 08:20PM | 0 recs
Re: What about Ray Nagin?

naggin suffers foot in mouth disease- he came on NY 1 - a tv station here in NYC to apologize and explain what he meant- you are right he should have blamed the real source of the problem.

by bruh21 2006-09-07 04:54AM | 0 recs
Re: nagin

naggin suffers foot in mouth disease- he came on NY 1 - a tv station here in NYC to apologize and explain what he meant- you are right he should have blamed the real source of the problem.

by bruh21 2006-09-07 04:55AM | 0 recs
Re: Whither Katrina?

I had the opportunity to write to her and several other Democrats that were being tagged as "moderates" during the last election cycle.  Not only were their responses filled with fear, they also projected a lot of hate towards Liberals in general.  It was at that point that I began to question the Democratic Party on a national level and started paying much more attention to Kos and MyDD.

The general groupthink at that time was "Gee, I better go along so I can appease my Republican constituents."

What does that groupthink reveal?  Basically that she and a host of other Dems weren't even paying attention.

by goplies 2006-09-06 08:28PM | 0 recs
I agree

but I thought it was being discussed in Af-Am communities.  Although I don't have any ads or campaign press releases at my fingertips to show it.  Though it didn't stay on the front pages very long.  Having the entire administration accuse the country of appeasing Nazis didn't help much either.

I think part of the problem, though, was that an effective narrative was undermined, not just by Landrieu, but by Blanco and Nagin.

I don't judge any of them in the circumstances of the storm itself.  But take away the storm and it seems that their infighting and ambitions are getting in the way of a grounded narrative taking shape.   And just some bad decisions.

It is not too late to get it back into the debate, though.  And I'm very glad this was brought up again on MyDD.

by Jeffrey Feldman 2006-09-06 08:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Whither Katrina?

Mary Landrieu did not replace John Breaux, she served alongside him.  

by gobacktotexas 2006-09-06 08:53PM | 0 recs
Katrina turned Louisiana red

When the hurricane happened my first political thought, which sad to say about myself came far too soon after the horror of the hurricane, was that the depopulation of New Orleans, which is the largest Democratic vote in the state, meant that no Democrat was ever going to be elected again for a long time. Landrieu loses in 2008 and no other statewide Dem will win again for a long time.

As David Brinkley, New Orelans native, and presidiential historian, said the neglect will have such a noticeable political effect -- turning a blue state red -- that the neglect almost seems like policy.

How convenient for Republicans that this works oout so well for them.

by debcoop 2006-09-06 09:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Katrina turned Louisiana red

If you're looking to read his writings, the first name is Douglas Brinkley.

by Books Alive 2006-09-07 12:03PM | 0 recs
Re: Whither Katrina?

Katrina isn't a story that still resonates with most Americans.  Look, it's a big country, and people in Michigan don't have to think about people in Louisiana if they don't want to.  In order for Katrina to maintain political potency, it has to affect the lives of lots of people.  The war in Iraq and the GWOT are things that continue to affect the country as a whole.  And every day.  Every day there is a news cast about Iraq or terrorism.  So, it remains relevant.

Katrina is not nearly as strong of a story.  At this point, the only people outside the immediate disaster zone who are still being affected by Katrina are people living in San Antonio, Houston, Austin, Atlanta, Dallas--cities where large numbers of evacuees relocated (and were forced to relocate).  Everyone else in this country has the convenient option of shutting their eyes.  And they choose that option every day.

by Reece 2006-09-06 09:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Whither Katrina?

I love how Democrats love to eat their own, like eating Landreau apart. Sure, she might've messed up pretty badly after Katrina, but calling her the worst Democratic Senator? Talking about progressive and non-progressive, we've got buddies like Ben Nelson, Max Baucas, Blanche Lincoln, and our informal Democrat Jeffords. And equal to her we've got Carper and Pryor, with Byrd and Bayh not too far behind her. Why not suggest eating them all apart as well?

Fucking dumbasses.

by KainIIIC 2006-09-06 10:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Whither Katrina?

Which major cities from among the constituencies of Nelson, Baucus, Lincoln or Jeffords were wiped off the map while they rolled over?

Refresh my memory.

by Kagro X 2006-09-07 04:15AM | 0 recs
Re: Whither Katrina?

If you don't think the destruction of a major American city is causes for alarm at a politician not being able to get up off her ass, then I think your moral compass is broken. Katrina isn't about politics- it's about whether one has a moral compass to do the right thing.

by bruh21 2006-09-07 05:02AM | 0 recs
Re: Whither Katrina?

[Kerry] "a flipflopper like Mark Warner on the Iraq War"

Link:  http://kainiiic.mydd.com/comments/2006/8 /25/18584/4937/49#49

How about that comment you made on this site recently?  Democrats eating their own???  Painting Mark Warner... a potential Democratic candidate for President, and John Kerry... our last candidate for President...  as a "flipflopper" might qualify!  That'd be a Republican talking point that you are using, by the way.

I get how people can get frustrated at Democrats fighting with each other.  But just like you criticized Kerry for what you described as his inept campaigning... we criticize Landrieu for her relative inaction in the face of an American city getting wiped off the map.

Like Stoller and Bowers have said on this site many, many times before...

http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/9/5/12552 4/0744

"It is important to keep the focus on MyDD in mind when complaining that we criticize Democrats too much, or that we are preaching to the choir. We are, instead, concerned, progressive, political professionals who are trying to help improve the functionality of Democrats and progressives when it comes to elections, campaigns, and political infrastructure. Given our goals, of course we are going to criticize Democrats more than Republicans, because we don't want to see Republican or conservative political infrastructure improve. We do want to see Democratic and progressive political infrastructure improve, so naturally we are going to spend a lot more time looking into what ways we feel it can improve."

And that's where you seem to disagree with this post.  What you call "fucking dumbasses," I call valid criticism.

by wintersnowman 2006-09-07 06:47AM | 0 recs
Re: Whither Katrina?

Katrina is a lot more than ineptitude, it is a story of greed and ideology run amok.  For well over 150 years, the federal government took responsibility for the levees along the Mississippi.  Bush and his gang demurred breaking a nationall consensus that extends, in its way, all the way back to Thomas Jefferson.  And for that, and destroying one of the most beloved cities in the country that man and his party gain votes in Louisiana?  Nonsense.

Privatized FEMA wa inept, incompetent and a shadow of its former self at great financial cost and psychological cost to the American people. The Reserve was in Iraq and not where it belonged, saving the lives and safe-keeping the property of locals.  The Army Corps of Engineers, once an elite branch of a proud service, fell laughably and sickeningly short.  No one was held respomsible even though "conservatism" was shown like the Emperor, to have no clothes.  It just does not work.

Charlie Melancon is more conservative than Mary Landrieu but he fought like the devil for his state and his constituents from the start.  Yes, the Bush machine targeted him and he took a hit at the start but he should survive and eventually thrive.  The one who got an undeserved bump out of this is David Vitter.  He is an even worse Senator than Landrieu but the Bush machine lined up behind him.  He has done nothing and worse than nothing for his state.

The evacuees are spread out and at least some blame politicians in general, not just Republicans.  If handled right and fought hard, Democrats would be getting a Truman-like bounce in places like Houston, southwest LA, and Atlanta from the evacuees.

In this household (a white one in suburban NJ), Katrina is a bigger deal than Iraq.  Way bigger.  He did more than let an American city die.  He heartlessly and cruelly shoved it into the grave with no damned reason except for greed.  George Bush did more damage than Katrina or, in fact, more damage than Sherman rolling through Georgia and the Carolinas during the Civil War.  We laugh in the faces (quite literally) of the Republicans and their lie machine.

People in even the most Republican sections of this state know that in a state where it seems half the population lives in a flood zone, George Bush has left us at the mercy of nature and waiting for disaster to strike.  It floods in Jersey.  it floods in Republican areas in Morris County.  A lot.  It floods and storms in that other Republican citadel, the Jersey Shore.

Why is Menendez tied with Kean?  Has he tied Katrina to Kean's tail?  I don't see it.  Has he tied the urge of Republican Senators to raise flood insurance premiums by 25% per year and keep raising them by that rate for many years to come to Kean?  No? Hey, my dentist was complaining about Bush and flooding.  Six or eight months ago. (And not specifically about New Orleans, certainly not about Iraq).

Bush has shattered the American community and replaced it with some farce where the rich and connected feed on no bid, no audit government contracts while the rest of us are left to worry if we are the next part of the American family that will be shoved under.  Jefferson knew back in 1803 that New Orleans was more than a city but that it was the key to a port and transportation system that would deliver the goods of the Mississippi Valley to market and distribute the products of the rest of the world to that market.  This boob-in-chief ignores it at our peril (certainly not his).

 

by David Kowalski 2006-09-06 11:05PM | 0 recs
Mary Landrieu IS

the worse Democrat out there.  The only two who are worse are Lieberman and Nelson in Nebraska.  Landrieu needs a real strong primary candidate, and Landrieu needs to be put out to pasture.  She sucks.  

by dkmich 2006-09-07 02:12AM | 0 recs
Bingo

That was my immediate thought when I read this diary, when was the last major emphasis on Katrina, here or anywhere else?

It's probably due to fear, no focus on Katrina since we dread it will deflected to Nagin and Blanco instead of Bush.

The irony is we lack memorable short themes and sound bites on our side, yet Katrina provides one of the great ones, "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job." If we ever nationalize things before November with an anti-Bush commercial you could use that clip along with goodies like, "I'm the decider," and quotes about progress in Iraq, and especially the many positive comments he made regarding the economy.

by jagakid 2006-09-07 02:13AM | 0 recs
The issue is FEMA, not just New Orleans

No city in the country is immune from natural disaster; New Orleans just happened to draw the short straw.

If you live where the ground can quake, a forest that could catch fire, or a river that could flood, you might be next.  

Wherever there is wind and water, there is danger. The guys who let New Orleans be destroyed--Republican party campaign managers rewarded with life-or-death jobs--still run FEMA.

Bush is a failure, and the Republicans in Congress have rubber-stamped every one of his failures.

If you vote Republican, better pray for good weather.

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by stevehigh 2006-09-07 03:49AM | 0 recs
Landrieu

Landrieu is just about as far away from progressivism and the netroots in the Democratic party as you can get.  Her, along with another Louisianan, John Breaux, just seem to be happy appeasing Republicans.  I feel for those down in LA, they're getting screwed from both sides of the aisle.  

Also, Landrieu figures prominently in the "Lieberman Caucus" in the Senate right now.  What a DINO.

by wintersnowman 2006-09-07 06:24AM | 0 recs
Re: Whither Katrina?

Landrieu was kicked off of EMILY'S LIST because she couldn't stick to a pro-choice position. Waffled. After they (we!) gave her Early Money so that she could be elected the first time, once in the Senate Club for High Status Slackers and Cowards, she caved.

by mrobinsong 2006-09-07 07:35AM | 0 recs
Re: Whither Katrina?

Landrieu was kicked off of EMILY'S LIST because she couldn't stick to a pro-choice position. Waffled. After they (we!) gave her Early Money so that she could be elected the first time, once in the Senate Club for High Status Slackers and Cowards, she caved.

by mrobinsong 2006-09-07 07:38AM | 0 recs
Mary Landrieu is a Joke

Mary Landrieu is a joke. Unfortunately she's a joke that causes damage and destruction wherever she goes.

She rode the "lookitmeI'magirlpolitico" wave for decades, and rode her dad's name into office without being particularly qualified for any job she's held. Watching her blab away during Katrina trying to sound tough and important was just pathetic. She is useless.

Too bad the Democratic Party in Louisiana can't get it up to kick her out and replace her with someone any better. Its not just about getting rid of a dumb person in office - it's about realizing that elections have serious consequences, in this case when Louisiana needed someone to step up and lead, she failed.

Now, the rest of us need to look at our own leaders in our own hometowns and states and ask "Is my Senator as stupid as Mary"

If so, kick 'em out.

by Schadelmann 2006-09-07 08:56AM | 0 recs

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