CTG & the Adwatch

First, an update on Crashing the Gate (now available in paperback). I've been finishing up with  doing an audio recording of the book, and am further than half way. The launch of the Fall book tour is happening this week. Markos (I wasn't invited) is going out on a college tour, and he has the tour dates listed on Daily Kos. There's also a CTG Facebook page for friends interested. I do an event at MIT (panel) on October 5th, and speaking up in Burlington, VT at the ACME "Facing the Media Crisis" Summit on October 7th.

Second, I want to bring up a CTG point related to the Adwatch campaign that's been done some here on MyDD. My initial internal reaction to the Adwatch was to be critical of the frontpage criticism of democratic campaigns and to wish it begone. But the more I thought and saw it go on, the more I realized how important this is. Let me just make a few bullet points to get the discussion rolling:

*We are all Democrats here, no one is going to be persuaded to vote or not. These media consultants go unscrutinized by the base voters cycle after cycle. Sure, you can say 'lets wait till after the election' but what sort of accountability project is going to happen after-the-fact, when everyone is ready to move on, or is no longer paying attention.

*The focus on the Courage poll (as much as I love it) as the sole benchmark is misplaced concreteness. We all know that local situations dictate different tactics and strategies, and that Democrats can and do win strong majorities without a message centered on the lessons of the Courage poll. For me, the strongest lesson is the 'tribe' identifying factor of voters. It's something that really came home to me (especially the nuts and bolts of doing it) after reading through Applebee's America. There are things in the Courage poll that are worthy to learn and replicate, but not always.

*Re-read chapter 3 of CTG (Hey, I just had to read it outloud), especially the section of "The Commissions Racket" and "Old Ads, New Age". The critiqe by Olgilvy's McIver and by Hillsman of Mellman's beltway thinking related to persuasion and memorability is something that shuld be delved into at greater lengths. If you get what the political media consultants like Shrum and McMahon think about persuasion (worship it)  and memorability (discount it), you'll understand why you seemingly see the same damn ad every cycle-- they are trying to drum it into your head (and you'll also understand why Madison Ave scratches their head at the lack of memorability in most political advertising).

*Since we are entering into the TV season, it's important to recognize that nobody in New York product advertising pays by commission anymore-- that racket only exists in DC. From CTG:

Commission-based advertising provides the wrong kind of incentives, where frequency trumps quality. "If media is your biggest line item and you're trying to save money on media, doesn't it make sense that if somebody actually paid attention to the commercial the first time and liked it and was involved in it and actually absorbed the information the first time, then you can run less media?" asks Hillsman, who has been a thorn in the side of the consulting establishment for years. "You don't have to get these frequency levels of eight or nine or ten with a good commercial. " This makes sense, but not for consultants working on commission, wanting huge ad expenditures to pad their bottom line.

*Look, the fact is that most of these people doing television ads have very little schooling and training in the business of marketing and advertising. The ones that did, were all squeezed out in the 1980's as the professional class (The Permanent Campaign) of media consultants rose out of the ranks of communication and political campaign departments (and even field, haha). But it's where alot of the money is in political campaigns.

*I'd like to see the Adwatch go one step further and link politial media consultants with their ads. Create some accountability and transparency. We've got to make our funding have an impact, not get wasted on re-tread 1980's-style ads that have no memorability. MyDD has pages for all of the Senate/Gov/House seats, why not do one for where 70-80% of the money in these campaigns go to? Especially for Netroots candidates, their consultants should be listed.

*We need more tools. Recruit some marketing/advertising execs from Madison Ave to critique these ads here on MyDD. I think it'd be great if we had someone that actually did a lot of product advertising to write about the ads in the context of the extensive research that's already been done to measure advertising effectiveness.

Tags: Adwatch, Crashing the Gate (all tags)

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35 Comments

Re: CTG & the Adwatch

Right on!
As an outside observer i was skeptical at first of the project (for similar reasons).  But it also seemed like it was worth a shot.  What turned me around was reading the comments and finding that about 75% percent of the time i was in agreement.  That tells me that there can be a lot of value in the process in terms of critiquing and improving various aspects of adverts across the campaigns.  

With that in mind, i think Jerome's last two suggestion are key.  1. now that we're identifying issues/and defects with the ads, it's important to begin to get an understand as to the source of those problems.  What (or who) are the common elements between the bad ads?  What about the good ads?  And 2. get some folks involved who have professional experience in the medium that have to compete on a daily basis for work in the commercial world.  (Seems like some Den campaigns - e.g. lamont - are seeing this work effectivey...)

by dand 2006-09-06 05:08AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: CTG & the Adwatch

Maybe MyDD can interview Errol Morris and bring a few samples of political advertising and get commentary. Errol Morris was an active supporter of Kerry for Pres. and Feingold for Senate in '04. In addition to making commercials for Adidas, Volkswagen, Miller High Life, and Levi's he has made ads for MoveOn.

Could you throw together a quick panel on political advertising early enough in the CTG tour and invite Morris, Hillsman, and Shrum? All are in the CT/MA area and a one-day event sometime in the next month wouldn't be a distraction from the fall elections, it would be working to make the best use of advertising to win the fall elections.

http://www.errolmorris.com/

by joejoejoe 2006-09-06 05:17AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: CTG & the Adwatch

Dear Jerome:

I recently ordered your book from Amazon.  I am looking forward to reading it.

While I am a fan/critic of AdWatch, one of the most invisible and powerful part of political campaigns is direct mail (which I believe will only be partially supplanted by email because netroots and blogs allow political opponents to report on what is being said and done online.)  The GOP is largely the King of this medium and its message is odious dangerous and frequently does its work just by arriving at your house.

A typical GOP piece says "You are a Republican. This is the Ticket.  Support it or Else."  Well it says it more subtlely but the message is clear.  Getting the GOP message and the party agenda (not the public agenda) on the front page helps progressives.  Little or nothing is reported on Direct Mail and frequently it message falls somewhere between inaccurate to completely false.  Racist messages, baseless statements, misquotes, libel, etc. are all part of the direct mailers arsenal and since it is sent to the party base --- virtually nothing is ever reported analyzed or publicized.  This ought to end.

Not only do media consultants (I do not consider them political consultants as they are so wrapped up in the commissions racket that it skews their thinking on how to win a race) waste resources but they cut into campaign budgets in ares where the Democrats are already technologically and logistically outpaced: direct mail and GOTV.

Netroots does a lot to counter this gap but much more needs to be done.

by kmwray 2006-09-06 05:37AM | login to reply | 0 recs
I agree

Direct mail is totally ignored by the media, and the bloggers, and whatnot. Which is too bad because the hypertargeted "Stealth" hit pieces can really do some damage to a candidate if they're not careful. And by the time anyone knows what's up, it's too late- the election is over.

I started a Political Direct Mail archive for the primary in the SF Bay area for 2006 to try and get the word out before the election. It is amazing how much Democrats discount mail sometimes, mostly because their TV guys don't want them to do anything but TV. It is interesting to note that in NH in 2004, the Kerry folks did mail (over Shrum's objections) and the effort was so well executived (by political consulting firm The Campaign Network out of Boston and North Carolina) it helped turn NH over to Kerry.

Anyway, worth thinking about.

http://www.gregdewar.com/2006/05/califor nia_primary_political_m.html

by schadelmann 2006-09-06 05:26PM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: CTG & the Adwatch

You also hit the expense, especially to the netroots/challenger candidate of making the ads and paying for the time.  

Money is so tight to these candidates, ad execs from madison ave may be out of their range.  

I think candidates should learn from the Lee Iacoca's of the world and look into the camera to talk to the voters directly.

Second, as a challenger candidate if you get close to the imcumbent, you will certainly be attacked on the air by the incumbent as well as outside third party group.  This ads a new dynamic and a call for more cash (which you probably won't have) to respond.  It would be nice as a challenger to have an outside third party come to your aid either positively, like the Nebraska Democratic Party did for Ben Nelson, or negatively against your opponent like the Club for Growth does against democrats.

In that vein I have written and produced an ad for the Fort Bend Democrats (down in Texas) that cost about $1500 and attacks the republicans in my state for their failed promises over the last 20 years.  Go see it at http://www.fortbenddemocrats.org.  We plan to run this ad on cable tv in Fort Bend County.  It will be relatively low cost ($50,000), which is certainly doable from a money standpoint.

We must stand up for our candidates by attacking the republicans failed policies at all levels.  Put them on the defensive and call in to question the way they govern.

Fight on!
Richard Morrison

by richard morrison 2006-09-06 05:44AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: CTG & the Adwatch

I'm a partial convert on ad watch.  I have some additional thoughts though.  We should be more constructive in our criticism and we should like these candidates with ad folks that we think are doing it right.  This could be a much more constructive effort and lose some of nonsense of attacking our friends while our opponents spend their time winning elections.

by demeric 2006-09-06 05:59AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: CTG & the Adwatch

I want to use you as an example of a problem I see amongst progressives. If you think criticizing ads as ineffectual is attacking your friends, then we really are both thin skinned. I have read all the ad watch diaries thus far, and none of them have attacked anyone other than to say that their messaging and approach is ineffective, poorly done or follow strategies by the DC consultant class that have been proven failures.

I think you need to be used as example of the mentality that- one can not separate out personal feelings from being able to take criticism. It's a fundamentally bad approach to everything, including politics as the last decade and half has proven as the party has been unwilling or unable to take on the requirements of innovation. The first step toward innovation is being able to adapt. To adapt requires being able to handle criticism.

When we can't even openly criticize ads without someone whining that someone's feelings are being hurt- there is something really really wrong.

by bruh21 2006-09-06 07:52AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: CTG & the Adwatch

If a campaign thinks their commercial is good...and it is smi-viciously put down here....yep...they will tune out.

It's called being sensetive to the audience. To think otherwise is to not ever to have made a commercial that drew critcism and having had to remake it. It's useful to have been on the other side of the equation.

Also, almost all of our 'media crictism' has been on policy points so far...when there are myraid reasons for a commercial other than policy.

That's the Practical Reality.

by bigdog 2006-09-06 08:04AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: CTG & the Adwatch

And if they "tune" out as you say because they think it's good, but it's not- then they deserve to lose. This is the real world here. In the real world, especially in politics, you don't get to ignore shit you don't want to hear. You especially dont get to ignore things that you don't want to hear- not because you say because its 'viscious' but because the reality is that people are critiquing you and saying that your ad is bad.

I will put it more bluntly. I am now an aspiring filmmaker after working as  lawyer for a few years. In both professions, one has to learn to take and use all criticism to figure out which of it is good, which is bad, and to generally have a thick enough skin to have someone say "I don't like it." If you aren't able to hear that. If you aren't able to figure out what you can use and what you can not. Then you should not be in the public sphere in any form. It's as simple as that because the reality is you don't get to avoid criticism, and, even if you could, you shouldn't want to. Why? Because it produces the results we have seen for the last 15 years now.

by bruh21 2006-09-06 08:09AM | login to reply | 0 recs
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Oh, and ps- the practical reality is that businesses fail with your version of reality and they suceed by adapting. the politicans are not the customer- the public is. That's the core premise of innovation. You are right practically speaking that a thin skinned politician may decide not to listen. But that same politician will lose.

by bruh21 2006-09-06 08:14AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Dawn Clark Netsch

I still remember the ad from 1994. Dawn Clark Netsch was running for governor of Illinois and the ad showed her running a pool table. It was a skill she actually had but that ran counter to the images of a woman politician.

Now that was a memorable ad.

by wegerje 2006-09-06 06:51AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: Dawn Clark Netsch

And likely got her some FREE press, yes?

by bigdog 2006-09-06 08:05AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: CTG & the Adwatch

I have mixed feelings about all this. It is bad enough that the DSCC and DCCC come in and try to tell a local candidate how to run their campaign, it seems even worse if every Democrat with a modem second guess the campaign manager.

Yeah, it makes sense to look at what works and what doesn't, but I am uneasy with people out of state telling the locals what works.

by alice marshall 2006-09-06 07:25AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: CTG & the Adwatch

boy what a GREAT comment. Good point and well said.

What few get...is that each District is unique.

by bigdog 2006-09-06 08:11AM | login to reply | 0 recs
DC vs. Madison Ave ?

The basic theme here seems to be "DC consultants suck. Hire Madison Ave ad people."  That seems to be the proposed solution for why our media isn't as effective as Republican media.

But who is making the GOP ads? Madison Ave guys? Hollywood directors? Why are their ads/messaging so much better than ours?

I think the problem for us lies less in where the ad people are coming from than it does with the lack of accountability for the consultants.

If you took the existing system and transferred it to Madison Ave, you'd get the same result. If you don't have to win to get clients, well, you're not going to win.

by liberalfrompa 2006-09-06 07:26AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: DC vs. Madison Ave ?

If someone had the $$ to hire the best on Madison Ave, they would also have to hire them 6 months to a year in advance of the ad.

Focus groups..polling etc to find the exact wording, imaging of the ad to get the message of the Candidate through the mental filters of the targeted audience.

And there would have to be targeted surveys.

You think the new campaign for Axe bodywashes and spray for Men happened by accident? A friend had an older teenage nephew coming to town who got stripped of his liquids at the airport so she went to the Target to buy some stuff for him, at his request, and her 14 year old daughter went STRAIGHT to the new Axe display. "Get this Mom. It's the best!"  All their work....it did the job.

As the best of ad campaigns are magnificent and create more word of mouth than actual purchased time, even the secondary runners are ten times more effective than the political commercials as we know them today.

But communication theory, something our media critics know little about like most people even with advanced degrees, teaches us the every person has a 'maze' in their thinking/preception mechanism that the presentation must pentrate to hit that viewer/listener's personal hotbutton.

Since there are some many ways each of us communicate, it become a very difficult task.

But the best speech writers, the best marketing experts and the best commercial makers figure out how to build a little of each type of communication into each presentation. Or they set up a series of communications so that over time each type of person has a specific presentation that appeals, on a subconscious level, just to them and not to the person next to them.

To be a media critic you have to know all this stuff and take it into account when viewing a commercial or mail piece.

But, back to the basic question, the money and timeframes are the real reason the best marketing expertise isn't used in the political world.

We take people that choose to get out of the real marketing/advertising world and they don't have the resources of the big companies.

I have a great media guy I use..but he costs a lot for a campaign. And he would have to bring in a whole other organization to run a TV campaign.

I have a third gentleman who is part of the best direct mail operation I've ever seen in the country and who specializes in Politics. Post his pieces on line and the average campaign will beat a path to his door. But bring money.

So once again it comes back to FUNDRAISING which is the one thing the 'Netroots' doesn't want to talk about in any non-online sense expect for 'houseparties'.

Bring money...buy expertise.

by bigdog 2006-09-06 08:41AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: DC vs. Madison Ave ?

yes because actblue isn't about raising money. and things like viral media ie snakes on plane prove that in order to do media effectively requires a lot of money rather than effective use of money.

by bruh21 2006-09-06 09:18AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: DC vs. Madison Ave ?

Not sure I got that right. But to be clear:

ActBlue isn't about RAISING money...it's about providing a convenient and safe way of giving and funneling money to the appropriate campaigns. It has been hugely helpful and thanks to all at ActBlue who I work with on a regular basis.

They do not RAISE money however. They do not host dinners, invite donors to breakfasts, have the difficult conversations, write the request letters to PACs or Unions etc.

There is the difference. One is a great way of giving conveniently after the choice is made to give and the other is impacting and motivating that choice to give.

'Snakes on a Plane' was a HUGE Internet success and a financial failure at the box office. That media campaign succeeded in creating word of mouth that did not translate into votes at the box office...viewers willing to pay....ie: a failed campaign.

You are absolutely correct that all expenditures have to be effective, which is the hallmark of a good media campaign.

A good media campaign means to me:
A. Having a good relationship with every political reporter anywhere near your District.

B. Good Media releases that are real news and either get published or motivate a story to be published at some point, not just promo pieces that get 'round-filed'.

C. Good Radio...which depends on script, execution, reach and frequency...depending on the type of ad.

D. Good TV...with all the same as above...but at an even higher level.

E. Good Net presence and Open Source, even amatuer, commercials for the Net that express the essentials of the campaign. This should include lots of audio pieces from Campaign stops and as much video shot from the crowd as possible.

That's a start. And it all costs money.

by bigdog 2006-09-06 12:20PM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: CTG & the Adwatch

Right on Jerome!

What has always puzzled me is that the left is vilified for its Hollywood contingent, yet never utilizes Hollywood's strengths. If the Hollywood marketing machine can get millions of people to pay $10 to see a crappy movie on opening weekend, they can definitely produce ads and marketing to GOTV in November.

Snakes in the Voting Booth!

by benstrader 2006-09-06 07:49AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: CTG & the Adwatch

See long comment. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

by bigdog 2006-09-06 08:42AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: CTG & the Adwatch

But if Hollywood is a big source of Dem fundraising, which means Hollywood types are willing to part with dollars and make effort to help raise more dollars, then doesn't it make sense to focus on developing ways to apply some of that Hollywood talent directly to creating media in addition to or instead of generating contributions?  That's certainly been done before, but why not more often and in a more organized way?  And with web-delivered video, there's increasing room for viral distribution of longer-form video, not just the 30-60 second spot.

As I recall, Matt's brother, who I think was a screenwriter, did a guest post on this awhile back....looks I just found it with a search of  the MyDD archives:
http://mydd.com/story/2005/12/29/11117/5 23
And here's another post related to this:
http://mydd.com/story/2006/3/16/115417/3 79

Here's an excerpt from Nick Stoller's post:

In the end, there is no intersection between Hollywood and the Democratic Party (or none that I have noticed besides that of fundraising).  This is a missed opportunity of gargantuan proportions.  There are hundreds of writers and actors and directors who are angry and who want to do something besides give money.  We are expert message machines offering our (generally overpriced) services for free and the Democratic Party does not use us.  We create villains and good guys, we write America's jokes, we create the narrative of America, the lines that are repeated by boys and girls, men and women, over lunch and the water cooler and we have been left completely un-consulted...

...The Democratic Party has a lock on the hearts and minds of Hollywood and Hollywood has a deep understanding of how to create message -- so why not start using us?

That's a damn good question, Nick.  Maybe the time's arrived to make a big change on this front....which reminds me, Matt, how about inviting Nick to do another post on this or a related theme?

by mitchipd 2006-09-06 01:16PM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: CTG & the Adwatch


1. One of the most effective political fundraisers in Hollywood, who has worked for most of the major names you would know, told me a couple/three months ago that she had never seen it so hard to raise money in Hollywood.

Even she, with the connections to die for as a fundraiser, where using the most famous homes was routine was not getting her expected results this year.

She was honestly puzzled as we talked about a campaign we both worked on previously. She flatly said NOT to count on Hollywood for the millions previously from the Names previously. Yes, there are donations coming but not in the amount or frequency she had been used to seeing.

When the person who could use Mr. Super Famous X's (sorry realized I was violating a confidence as it wasn't a public event) home for fundraisers was having a problem, it was an eyeopener for me.

2.Also,even in Hollywood where talent is a given asset, or any other place actually,
you can only ask professionals to give away just so much of that professional talent.

All of us have only two things to use to make money to live:Time and Expertise.

Most will give either to some degree...but there are limits.

So the Hollywood connection exists...but if you approach a production company for help...they have a payroll to meet. That's just reality.

One tip: Never offer anything to the Party as it is a huge organization.

Offer it to a Candidate who can make instant use of the speech re-write or the script re-write. The asset not hired in most campaigns, even small one's, are professional writers. And they can be hired part-time. If they offer their services entirely for free...get resume's, samples and references that can be checked. Especially if they come from Hollywood the place where everyone is on the hustle and sells themselves as more than they are. I'm not far away and was a film major. Saw Hollywood up close for awhile.

Most really good writers can't afford to write for free or nearly free on a fulltime basis. They have overhead to meet too.

It all comes back to fundraising as much as no one wants to admit it. Fundraising is the hardest job in any campaign.

Helping the Candidate make all those calls he/she absolutely hates to make...and making sure they make them for hours every day...heling them become better closers so they GET the money...and then getting the events together with the Events Director...very difficult work.

Anyone really good at it is a very special item in the political world and should be admired. They are also highly paid. They earned it.

by bigdog 2006-09-06 04:47PM | login to reply | 0 recs
Adding Structure & Value to Adwatch

Jerome said:

"We need more tools" and "These media consultants go unscrutinized by the base voters cycle after cycle...I'd like to see the Adwatch go one step further and link political media consultants with their ads. Create some accountability and transparency."

I was thinking along the same lines and put together some specific suggestions for adding structure and (I think) value to Adwatch.  See this diary post for the details:

http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/9/6/11474 5/6700

by mitchipd 2006-09-06 07:54AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: ACME

since Zephyr and I have been communicating I would love to attend as well athough that is unlikely at this point.

Perhaps our myDD 'Media Critics' could take few classes in true media criticizm rather than viewing every piece from a policy perspective.

Perhaps The Big Dog will be there. I'll try.

by bigdog 2006-09-06 08:10AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Adwatch some criticisms
Jerome,
I think that your second point is an extremely pertinent critique of the adwatch program.  However you didn't mention what I think is that most relevant criticism: that Adwatch treats each ad in isolation rather than one of a series of ads for said politician.  When criticizing Menendez's latest ad we should look back at what he has already aired and consider what he will probably air next.  Most striking to me was the condemnation of a Burner introductory ad for not mentioning Iraq.  While I agree that she should ultimately use the accountability theme, using it in an introductory ad seems counter productive.  What might have been more relevant would have been a discussion of whether pure positive ads should be aired.  We should also keep in mind that it is probably counterproductive for a candidate who runs five ads to run all five on the same theme.
by descartes 2006-09-06 08:32AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Frequency IS important

Another point, which I think is vital, and which Hillsman gets wrong.

Frequency IS important in any ad campaign. Every one "unforgettable" ad is actually part of a campaign where the same ad or similar ads are repeated ad nauseum. Just look at any Madison Ave, corporate ad campaign (which I would assume Hillsman is aware of). The same set of ads, repeated far more often than any political campaign's ads ever air.

Why? Because buying (like voting) -- is all about name recognition. (One big reason why incumbents hold such an advantage over challengers.)

You can always have your one unforgettable ad. But air it only a few times, and see where it gets you.

Meanwhile, all those boring signs by the side of highway or on your neighbor's front yard with the other candidate's name is what people will remember when they go to the polls.

by liberalfrompa 2006-09-06 09:03AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: Frequency IS important

one memorable ad (like a film) is worth a thousand forgettable ones.

by bruh21 2006-09-06 09:25AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Actually

Hillsman does the bulk of his work for corporate advertisers, and he is well versed in the notion of frequency.

He is spot on. And we just saw it in action in Connecticut, where he ran Lamont's media effort.

Lieberman's ads ran FAR MORE ads than Lamont, but Lamont's were far more effective and memorable. Hence, it helped make up the more than 2-1 money advantage enjoyed by Lieberman in the primary.

by kos 2006-09-06 09:48AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Not about the media

I know Hillsman does corporate. My comment about him being aware of those campaigns was sarcastic.

The Lamont win doesn't make any statement about media buy frequency. Lamont won for a variety of reasons, with ad frequency (or lack thereof vs. Lieberman) being low on the list.

Grass/netroots organizing, enthusiasm, the specific demographics of the voters (anti-Iraq war candidate in a northeastern Democratic primary), were the real driving forces behind that win. Take those things away, and Lieberman would've clobbered Lamont.

by liberalfrompa 2006-09-06 10:13AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: Not about the media

let's take this outside of politics. when you see a memorable ad, what do you remember- the number of times you have seen it, or the ad? does it matter how many times you have seen it if it does something to catch your eye and your imagination? the gegko commmercials work not b/c of volumn but because of the little lizzard. the anti cig ads work because they are so social inappropriate in terms of what we expect for PSAs. what makes other ads work- are you sure you are talking about number of ads or do you thinkt he point here is that with limited resources one must focus those on creating the most memorable ad possibel. where'st he beef. and other such language and approaches that creates its own free media and makes peo stand up to remember. the reason why one good ad beats out a thousand bland ads is that the one good ad will replay in the mind of those who watch it regardless of whether it is on tv or not. the bland ad will only last in the mind so long as it is on tv. why do you remember good movie scenes versus bad movies?

by bruh21 2006-09-06 12:04PM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: Actually

Yet Hillsman ran the spots he ran with an exact calculation of frequency necessary to reach his targeted audience within a given budget.

He didn't run his commercials just once. His was a well-coordinated media campaign with a high quality product I'm sure.

His book, "Run The Other Way" explains his methodology very well.

by bigdog 2006-09-06 12:27PM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: CTG & the Adwatch

*The focus on the Courage poll (as much as I love it) as the sole benchmark is misplaced concreteness.

I'm not just relying on the Busby poll.

by matt stoller 2006-09-06 09:38AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Don't forget about taking a look

at a building advertising campaign.

Ad watches focus on the ad at hand, without enough attention paid to...

1. What day was it released?  What was the news cycle like that day? How did it fit into the overall message the campaign was pushing for that day or week or however long the ad is running?
2. Does the ad build upon themes brought up in previous ads?

by newsie8200 2006-09-06 10:49AM | login to reply | 0 recs
Re: Don't forget about taking a look

Well said. And you are talking about a well thought out, coordinated media campaign.

by bigdog 2006-09-06 12:25PM | login to reply | 0 recs
TV ads aren't the entire thing, gang

Inevitably, everyone looks at TV ads and think that's all one needs. Great TV ads = winning! Well, not always.

You can have the greatest TV ads in the world and lose a race. You can have the worst TV ads in the world and still win. And yes, "Madison Avenue" firms produce stuff that looks a lot better than the TV ads from the DC Crew, but remember, they also get paid a lot more to produce them. An ad for AXE is going to have way more money to play with than an ad for Senator Snuffy. And AXE will spend a lot more money to put their message out in other ways as well.

You really need to look at a campaign's total plan for voter contact to really judge how good an ad is. If a candidate for Congress is relying primarily on TV, they're going to lose. If they back it up with well produced mail that reinforces the candidate's message to voters, and works with their "critierion of choice" to get them to vote for the candidate, AND it's backed up with a field plan AND blogs AND all the new ways to reach voters, then you can start to see how each of these things are just parts of a bigger plan.

Plus, in many places TV ads are not going to be effective, particularly in districts that have been gerrymandered in ways that require one to buy in more expensive markets. NY, Boston, Los Angeles, San Francisco and most urban areas cost a fortune to put on ads, even cable ones that don't reach as many people. Start factoring that in, and you'll see why hiring a big "Madison Avenue Firm" isn't do-able. Oh, and for the record, most big ad agencies are owned by a few multinational firms, and as an example, Reagan's old ad man, Hal Riney's firm is owned by...The French. Really!

by schadelmann 2006-09-06 05:37PM | login to reply | 0 recs

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