New 527 Ripoff Schemes from 'Top Democratic Strategists'

Ok, so Harold Ickes is trying to raise $25 million for a new 527 to focus on field and advertising.  Rahm Emanuel is hiring the Bob Shrum of field operations, Michael Whouley, to run his DCCC field plan.  And another 527 with a presumed budget of $8-10 million is being run by former DNC bigwigs Martin Frost, Tony Coehlo, Joe Andrew, and Don Fowler.  

Ok, let's look at what's going on here.  

Ickes is tied into the Hillary Clinton axis and the Glover Park Group, which was busted today lobbying for the Dubai Ports deal.  Ickes is behind the disastrous Datamart voterfile project, which is project managed by Laura Quinn, the person who screwed up Demzilla in 2004 under Terry McAuliffe and was somehow hired again to screw up another voterfile.  

Whouley has a massive telecom contract through his firm Dewey Square, which is tasked with passing the Stevens bill eviscerating net neutrality.  He's been all over losing Presidential campaigns, most recently Kerry's in 2004.  And he's not only in charge of the DCCC field plan, but he's also managed to convince donors to give him $3 million to map out yet another losing Presidential field strategy in 2008.

And of course, Tony Coehlo really takes the cake.  Coehlo more than any individual is responsible for the decline of the Democratic Party - he literally has his fingerprints all over every moral and political debacle of the last twenty five years, from the introduction of rivers of business PAC money into the party in 1982 to the Congressional loss of 1994 to Gore's snatching of defeat from the jaws of victory in 2000.  In the process, Coehlo had to leave Congress under a cloud of scandal, and became a millionaire almost instantly after he left.  Hmm.

Seriously, donors need to be retrained.  Why are they giving money to the people responsible for putting the party in the awful shape it is in?  These people are not as famous as Bob Shrum, but they should be.  These are the people that are anonymous senior strategists leaking to the New York Times about how worried they are about Democrats taking a stand on this issue or that one (often with undisclosed financial conflicts of interest), or getting Adam Nagourney to write process pieces about Howard Dean's questionable stewardship of the DNC.  These are the people that buy broadcast and waste buckets of cash paying off their media buyer and pollster friends/business partners.  This is the all white mostly male circuit that is alienating minority Democratic influentials through their insular arrogance.

This is the establishment.  And they are not winners, unless you consider getting Bob Shrum a new boat a victory for the Democratic Party.  

Just so you know.

Tags: Bob Shrum, Datamart, Harold Ickes, Michael Whouley, Tony Coehlo (all tags)

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Off topic: MT poll, Tester 52%, Burns 43%

New MT poll!!! (none / 0)

Real Politics is reporting a new Rasmussen poll shows Tester is opening a big lead over Burns(52%:43%). Last poll they were tied at 47%

by firestorm 2006-09-14 03:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Off topic: MT poll, Tester 52%, Burns 43%

The debate killed Burns. Killed him.

by Hesiod Theogeny 2006-09-14 03:51PM | 0 recs
Off topic: Firestorm Nailed Primary Results

Wow, I can not believe the accuracy of my own prediction. Remember, we had this primary forecast thread, and I predicted the following:

AZ-08: Graf

MD-04: Wynn, by 4 points

MD-Sen: Cardin, a squeaker

RI Sen: Chafee, a relatively comfortable win.

WI-08:  Kagen

wow, I nailed every race, especially MD-04 and RI.

MD-04: actual Wynn:Edwards 50%:46% and I predicted a 4-point win.

RI Sen: I predicted a comfortable win by Chafee which nobody had forecasted.

MD-Sen, the final tally is Cardin 44% : 40%(Mfume), which is not exactly a squeaker, but much tigher than 7 points spread by SurveyUSA's last poll.

I will throw out two predictions today. I predict PA will definitely go D even Casey is such a horrible candidate. RI seat will be retained by Chafee. I'll explain more when I get the chance.

by firestorm 2006-09-14 03:38PM | 0 recs
Off Topic: Defend Duckworth

'Pathetic' Duckworth(D, IL-06) is speaking out on Iraq
by firestorm, Thu Sep 14, 2006 at 07:08:55 PM EST

Duckworth, the Iraq war veteran who's engaging in a tough battle in a GOP district, is speaking out.
I am wondering whether puritist Matt Stoller will continue to brand her as 'pathetic', 'xenophobic' 'loser' after reading the following?

http://www.dailyherald.com/search/search story.asp?id=227496

"Democratic 6th Congressional District candidate Tammy Duckworth said Wednesday the Iraq conflict is not part of the war on terror, taking the opposite view of President Bush and her Republican opponent.

"I absolutely do not agree that Iraq is part of the war on terror," said Duckworth, an Iraq war veteran, at a news conference in Oakbrook Terrace. "I think a very small percentage of what's happening in Iraq is terrorist activity. I think most of it is sectarian violence. It's Sunni fighting Shiites."

That view drew a raised eyebrow from her Republican opponent Peter Roskam.

"The notion that theater of conflict (in Iraq) is de-coupled from the war on terror, I just disagree with that," said Roskam, a state senator from Wheaton. "I'm actually surprised she would say that."

Roskam agrees with Bush, who stressed in his Monday speech commemorating the five-year anniversary of the 9/11 attacks that Iraq is a key front in the war on terror.

"Al-Qaida and other extremists from across the world have come to Iraq to stop the rise of a free society in the heart of the Middle East," Bush said. "They have joined the remnants of Saddam's regime and other armed groups to foment sectarian violence and drive us out."

But Duckworth, a Hoffman Estates Army reservist who saw combat action in Iraq, disagreed.

"I think that to try to tie Iraq into the war on terror is a disservice to the real work that has to be done on the war on terror," she said.

Duckworth lists capturing Osama bin Laden, finishing the job in Afghanistan and enacting the 9/11 Commission recommendations on homeland security as the "real work."

Duckworth favors bringing U.S. troops home as Iraqi troops are trained. Roskam backs the Bush administration's stand that the nation needs to stay the course.

The two will debate for the first time next Friday in a WBBM radio/Daily Herald forum that will be broadcast at 9:30 p.m. Sept. 24 on 780-AM.

by firestorm 2006-09-14 03:39PM | 0 recs
Re: New 527 Ripoff Schemes from 'Top Democratic St

You forgot that Dewey Square consulted on the LIEberman campaign.

by Hesiod Theogeny 2006-09-14 03:50PM | 0 recs
Re: New 527 Ripoff Schemes from 'Top Democratic St

Yep, nice summation.

by Jerome Armstrong 2006-09-14 03:54PM | 0 recs
New 527 Ripoff Schemes
Educational and sobering post, Matt.  
You said "Seriously, donors need to be retrained."  Aside from writing (and for the rest of us reading) your post, are there any other "action items" to help achieve the "retraining" and to provide donors with more and better alternatives?  
I remember seeing George Soros mentioned somewhere in an earlier post or article on this.  I generally like and respect him and would love to see his money used wisely.  He's certainly invested a lot of it and strikes me as a sincere straight shooter, and also a pretty smart guy. It'd be nice to see his money used more effectively, especially in netroots-friendly ways.  Any knowledge of or thoughts on this?
by mitchipd 2006-09-14 04:12PM | 0 recs
Re: New 527 Ripoff Schemes from 'Top Democratic St

They contribute to these guys because their contributions get them access.

Some do, quite deliberately and cynically. Other do just because it's "the Establishment"; they don't know the story behind the scenes, or they don't have the ability to find/organize an alternative.

It's like socially responsible investing, right? If an alternative is known to be more ethical, and performs just as well, there are a lot of folks who will choose it. A lot more in politics, probably, than in investing.

Oh and by the way: Damn, Stoller, you're on a tear!

by billybob 2006-09-14 04:17PM | 0 recs
New 527 Ripoff Schemes from 'Top Democratic St

Slowly but surely, I hope.

It might take a while, but things are at least changing somewhat.  For example, Feingold has been using and continues to use some kickass consultants, and now his Progressive Patriots Fund has sent staffers to various campaigns all around the country to work on field, rather than just put up commercials.  Ned Lamont showed people how to win an election against a well-respected incumbent with the state's entire Democratic establishment behind him, by having smart people run his campaign.  Once Ned gets elected, I'm sure people will notice such a huge upset and take some cues on how to win a race.  Some other candidates this time around have really good ads, too, like Menendez's port security ad, or the Vote Vets anti-Allen ad.  I'm still undecided on Webb's Raegen ad, but I can definitely see it being very powerful in getting crossover votes (and it is certainly).  Also, MoveOn's ads this time around look really strong, and they even backed up their effectiveness by polling districts before and after and showing the improvements.

The point is that, while the establishment is doing their status quo garbage, there are candidates and groups out there being smart, and hopefully if they are successful, others will start to catch on.

by Fran for Dean 2006-09-14 04:31PM | 0 recs
Re: New 527 Ripoff Schemes from 'Top Democratic St

I thought Wholey was genius in orchestrating Kerry's primary Iowa win.

by jasmine 2006-09-14 04:33PM | 0 recs
Re: New 527 Ripoff Schemes from 'Top Democratic St

Gopheart and Lieberbum were responsible for Kerry's "win" by their coordinated scurrilous attacks (with Kerry no less) on Dean.

The DLCers circled their wagons and made sure the populist outsider was knocked off and one of their own remained the annointed one.

by Sitkah 2006-09-14 06:51PM | 0 recs
But that is how the party works

I mean. It isn't like the democratic party is a machine, nor a disciplined organization, nor a European style party.

I'm not sure it is bad or wrong. To win the presidency you have to have huge personal assets: charisma, money, alliances, grass-roots support, gravitas, popular awareness...

Imagine what kind of a party hack we would get if it was left to the smoky rooms. Yeah, they might try to pick a candidate and force it down our throats, but a more successful candidate comes with external strength, i.e. some amount of independence that you might label "party within a party".

by MetaData 2006-09-14 07:46PM | 0 recs
Re: But that is how the party works

Imagine what kind of a party hack we would get if it was left to the smoky rooms.

They've banned smoking, but the rooms are still there with the same kind of people in them cutting democracy off at the knees.

by Sitkah 2006-09-14 08:08PM | 0 recs
Re: But that is how the party works
Dean would have run a campaign that would have exposed Bush for what he is: a liar.
by Pericles 2006-09-14 08:19PM | 0 recs
Re: But that is how the party works

Anybody who actually heard Dean tell it like it is without the "traditional media" snickering behind their cherry-picked sound bite respected him, if not loved him.

Now I'm starting to hear our traditional pundits crow about how the next politician who tells it like it is will be annointed America's next leader.

As long as it isn't Howard Dean, apparently.

Would Dean have laid back and taken the swiftboating? Who knows? But the Kerry package coughed up by the stiffs listed in this post all seem to be hiring themselves back up for the next round. It's like the BushCo: You get promoted for failing.

by HE 2006-09-15 06:48AM | 0 recs
Re: New 527 Ripoff Schemes from 'Top Democratic St

Whouley was also largely responsible for the strong gotv operation in 2000 that won the campaign for Gore and won us 5 Senate seats.

I've got no brief for the guy but I also don't like the circular firing squad mentality, esp at this time of year. Sometimes this site amazes me in its desire to attack other Democrats.

by desmoulins 2006-09-14 09:38PM | 0 recs
Re: New 527 Ripoff Schemes from 'Top Dems..

Several weeks ago, I heard that Hillary and the DLC were building their own organizations to parallel and in fact replace the DNC, because they don't trust Howard Dean. Is this long accounting of long time party functionaries part of the same story?

by Jeany 2006-09-14 04:50PM | 0 recs
Re: New 527 Ripoff Schemes from 'Top Dems..

The Clintons are already a party within the party. They've got their own corporate donor base, their own people in powerful positions in Congress, and their own media machine ( which showed its efficiency by the way it took on "Path to 9/11" and discredited it before it was even aired.)

Dean is building the party from down below. Someday his populist Democratic Party will replace the corporate Clinton Party.

by Sitkah 2006-09-14 06:57PM | 0 recs
Re: New 527 Ripoff Schemes

Frankly, my biggest concern is that NOBODY's using their money to go negative on the Republicans.

Negative works and it's about time some Dem group, ANY DEM GROUP, starts kicking Republican ass.

So far, the only hard hitting ad I've seen is the one the Vets are putting out against Senator Maccaca.

Someone on the Dem side has to do opposition research and absolutely start eviscerating some of their candidates.

I don't care who does it; but it needs to be done and fast.

The Dems have been wusses for too long.

by Bush Bites 2006-09-14 04:56PM | 0 recs
Re: New 527 Ripoff Schemes

That's true to an extent.  However, if you can have a third-party group doing the attacks (like Vote Vets ad attacking Sen Macaca) while you are "staying above the fray" and doing the positive ads, it can be a good combination.  While people find out about what horrible votes George Felix Allen Jr cast and his lack of support for the troops, they're also hearing a biographical ad about Webb and how great he is, and look even Raegan liked him!

Going negative is effective because people find out the dirt about the other guy.  If you have a negative ad ending with "I'm James Webb and I approved this message," that doesn't make Webb look good.

by Fran for Dean 2006-09-14 05:02PM | 0 recs
In Coelho's defense...

"And of course, Tony Coehlo really takes the cake.  Coehlo more than any individual is responsible for the decline of the Democratic Party - he literally has his fingerprints all over every moral and political debacle of the last twenty five years, from the introduction of rivers of business PAC money into the party in 1982 to the Congressional loss of 1994 to Gore's snatching of defeat from the jaws of victory in 2000.  In the process, Coehlo had to leave Congress under a cloud of scandal, and became a millionaire almost instantly after he left.  Hmm."

Hold on now. I don't think Coelho is a hero, but he's certainly no villain. When Carter was elected in '76, he brought with him a pathetic 1-seat gain for the democrats in the House. In '78 and '80 the democrats lost huge numbers of seats. The DCCC chairmanship was a thankless and career-killing position, and the republicans outspent the House democrats in 1980 by an 8 to 1 margin. Coelho leveled the playing field and helped get the democrats 27 seats in 1982. When Reagan took every state in the country except Minnesota, Coelho limited democratic losses to 16 seats, and he regained five for the democrats in 1986. As Majority Whip, Coelho presided over the most successful congressional session since 1965-67, the 100th congress of 1987-89. When he  was accused of improprieties, he resigned quickly out of loyalty to the party instead of dragging it out.

It would be easy to blame Coelho for 1994, but there are others far more culpable. Tom Foley, Dick Gephardt, George Mitchell, Hillary and above all Bill Clinton are more responsible for '94 than Coelho. And you are badly misrepresenting his stint as Gore's campaign manager. He built the machine that crushed Bill Bradley in the primaries, but he's not responsible for Gore's loss. He resigned in June, 5 months before the elections. It's absolutely false to say Gore lost because of anything Coelho did.

As a congressman, Coelho was liberal on economic issues, moderate on social issues and a party-line democrat on foreign policy. His numerous ethical improprieties, his courting of business PACs and his failure in '94 are legitimate marks on his record. But he's not responsible for the decline of the democratic party.

by JRyan 2006-09-14 05:07PM | 0 recs
Re: In Coelho's defense...

Coelho built the Democratic K-Street project.  That's how he ran the DCCC - pay-to-play.  And are you sure Coehlo was head of the DCCC in 1980?

by Matt Stoller 2006-09-14 05:11PM | 0 recs
Re: In Coelho's defense...

Coelho was elected in 1978. Tip offered the DCCC to him after the 1980 debacle.

by JRyan 2006-09-14 05:15PM | 0 recs
Re: In Coelho's defense...

That was a pretty solid defense of him.  Didn't know that.

by Fran for Dean 2006-09-14 05:12PM | 0 recs
Coelho: no defense...
The following is IN MY OPINION only.
Coelho has always been a moral sewer, and we should have nothing to do with him.
How do I know: I was two years behind him in our undergraduate college. He was Student Body President, his senior year as I remember.
The guy was a total suckup to a very reactionary college administration.  Whatever the college bosses  wanted, he delivered.  His associates were part of a ruling cabal that made student government a mouthpiece for the worst of the authoritarian administrators. What he and his pals  got out of it was glory.  Their names in the paper, their own careers advanced, and to hell with the students.
That's been the story of his public career as well.  (I followed it in California.) We need to keep our distance from garbage like him.
And no, I was not involved in campus politics during my undergraduate years: I have no personal ax to grind.  He never banged my dog or shot my woman.  Just reporting what he was like then.
In my opinion.
by traveler 2006-09-14 06:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Coelho: no defense...

I personally don't know about what Coelho did at Loyola Marymount. My knowledge is restricted to his political career and beyond, and I was trying to clarify what I felt were misconceptions about Coelho's service. What specifically as president did he do to make you angry? Consider also that he spent 13 years as a staff member for Congressman Sisk. There's not a whole lot of glory in that, so I think Coelho must have had some dedication to public service that extended beyond personal glory. Outside of the spotlight, Coelho, as a guy who's been diagnosed with epilepsy, has been remarkably active with the Epilepsy Foundation (he chairs their board of directors, so that's at least one chairmanship that won't get him a great deal of money). I don't think that's too bad for a "moral sewer.

by JRyan 2006-09-14 07:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Coelho: no defense...
If you had watched his career unfold, as I did, the end of his career in Congress for ethics problems was not news.  It had always been about Tony.  Yes, he did good things, but ultimately why? As best I could see from observing the results, it was all about Tony.  And he seemed to think (seemed because I'm not psychic) that, since it was all about him ultimately, he could get away with ethically compromising conduct.  Welcome to the same kind of situation we're watching in the republican congress today.
And it's not anger.  It's disgust.  Watching people use public office to advance themselves and become media whores (in my opinion) is not what public service is about (in my opinion), regardless of party, agenda, or physical disabilities.
Tony is just the first person I was able to watch follow the corrupt political arc from the very beginning, to the disgrace, to the return working for questionable causes and currying favor with a perceived elite, to advance a disgraced career (certainly democrats whose work undermines progressive candidates instead of defeating republicans are not that high minded).
BTW, the name of the college he graduated from was not Loyola Marymount.  If that's the level of competence in your research, you need to do better.
by traveler 2006-09-14 09:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Coelho: no defense...

Great, but you still haven't given one specific reason why Coelho was a bad student president. All I see are vague denunciations. You're also completely misrepresenting Coelho, in my opinion. He was never a real "media whore", he was an inside ball player who stepped over the line. You're entitled to dislike him, but my original post was intended to defend him from false claims that he cost Gore 2000 and was responsible for the decline of the party. I see Coelho as basically the same as Rostenkowski and Wright: men with sparks of greatness in them, and with good hearts, but with a hubris and a pettiness that would bring each of them down in turn. Unlike those two, however, Coelho left quietly instead of dragging the party down with him in 1989.

BTW, Tony Coelho graduated from Loyola University in Los Angeles in 1964. Loyola Marymount University was created in 1973 by the merger of Marymount College and Loyola University. So yeah, that's it's name now, and it was petty of you to place "gotcha" in the first place, especially since you're wrong.

by JRyan 2006-09-14 10:06PM | 0 recs
Re: Coelho: no defense...
Matt made the case simply and clearly enough in his initial post.  I provided additional evidence that tends to verify it: Tony is a very seriously ethically challenged individual whom we should stay away from and watch carefully.
Your last paragraph demonstrates that I was in fact spot-on right, and you do sloppy research and sloppy reporting.  That calls into question many, if not most, of the facts in your defense of Tony.  Its not "gotcha" (LOL!), its insisting on accurate reporting of the facts.
Thank you for playing; better luck next time.
by traveler 2006-09-15 05:31AM | 0 recs
Re: Coelho: no defense...

Tends to verify it? You provided no additional evidence, absolutely none. Saying that Coelho sucked as president if you can't tell me specifically what he did that was so wrong is just so much blathering. It just makes you look bitter. And no, you weren't right. The fact that you're still jumping on that with such desperation and intensity tells me that you've literally got nothing else to prove any kind of point. Here are the real facts: as DCCC chair, Coelho leveled the financial playing fields for democrats, and got them 27 seats in '82, 5 seats in '86, and limited democratic losses to 16 seats in '84. That's a matter of public record. As Majority Whip, Coelho helped make the 100th Congress the most productive Congress since the time of Lyndon Johnson. That's from "The Ambition and the Power". Coelho was partially responsible for the debacle of '94, but others were far more culpable. Coelho was responsible for beating Bill Bradley for Al Gore, but resigned 5 months before the election, so he's not responsible for Al Gore's loss. Both of those are common-sense facts. If you actually have additional evidence that calls into question these facts, show it. If you can't actually add anything to the discussion besides your opinion and your vague accusations, then thank you, come again, and move along.

by JRyan 2006-09-15 07:25AM | 0 recs
Re: In Coelho's defense...

Hold on now. I don't think Coelho is a hero, but he's certainly no villain.

How much skullduggery does it take to be a villian?

by Sitkah 2006-09-14 07:18PM | 0 recs
Harold Ickes

This would be the same Harold Ickes that contributed to John Sweeney?

by Andrew C White 2006-09-14 05:22PM | 0 recs
Matt, ya gotta give us more context

These are interesting points, but I don't track all the individuals and projects enough to know whether to agree or disagree with you. I follow MyDD religiously, and read CTG, but if I don't recognize your points, what about people who aren't as "up on things" as I am?

So, be more specific. What exactly is wrong with the "disastrous Datamart voterfile project". Don't we want investments in micro-targeting and marketing? Also, it may be interesting whether the project is succeeding (we only have your adjective "disastrous"; no references...), but the more interesting point is that several different groups or power players in the party have realized how important voter data files are, and are making investments in that area.

And, H. Clinton. Well, she isn't my candidate, but I don't see her as evil or bad. I assume she is smart, (obviously) well-connected, and a significant player in 2008. That makes her important, and we should know what projects she is investing in. Three years from now we will want to understand why her candidacy is doing well (or not).

by MetaData 2006-09-14 06:09PM | 0 recs
Re: Matt, ya gotta give us more context

Another question is what is up with the new DNC database?

The RNC is now on their third cycle refining the 72 hour project and if RI means anything it seems to be working pretty smoothly. The DNC, after trash talking anyone pre-Dean, dithered for a year, made a bunch of noise about doing it 'right', and vanished. Now the DNC says "we're focused on the future, not 2006."

Are they doing anything? The partybuilder tools look nice, and social networking is fun, but they don't appear to be connected to any voter databases. Near as I can tell the states are using the standard 2004 voter file vendors. Nothing wrong with that, but it ain't exactly micro-targeting.

by souvarine 2006-09-14 08:06PM | 0 recs
Re: Matt, ya gotta give us more context

A bit on voterfile systems from a database application programmer.

These are really hard things to do well, especially on a national level. The amount of data you're working with is staggering and the activity around an election is intense. This makes it a Big Tech Project.

Now, Big Tech Projects have a way of getting all fekakta becuase consultants come in and land a big budget, do a lot of politicking to make sure they're well liked, and massively underdeliver on the product. This is what happened with "Demzilla", a 2004-era project that allegedly cost $15M and led to no tangible results.

Putting the same people in charge of the new version smacks of cronyism and idiocy. Likely the people behind this couldn't hack it in the private sector if they had to, but because they've got the connects w/Ickes, they land another eight-figure development deal.

by Josh Koenig 2006-09-14 08:46PM | 0 recs
1% of the programmers do 99%

Yes, big data projects are hard.

On the other hand, if you can put together a team of top programmers, you can do the thing right and fast. Evidence of past success is a Good Thing.

Initial design is only half the battle (and it always takes three times to get it right). Can you maintain the thing and most important, keep the data updated and clean.

by MetaData 2006-09-14 09:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Matt, ya gotta give us more context

Yeah, big data projects are hard, I can tell you from commercial experience.

But $15MM? Where did you get that number from? That would show up in FEC reports. At the time the DNC claimed it cost under $2MM and is what they credited for outraising the RNC in 2004.

CSED has some definitive data and shows that the 2004 DNC had a low fundraising and admin cost per dollar raised. It also shows that they underspend on "Grassroots Campaigning" and overspent on TV, but I think we all know that.

A close look at the DNC's current FEC reports is eye-opening. They are spending a lot on technology but it is hard, from the hinterlands, to see what they are doing with it (aside, of course, from partybuilder).

by souvarine 2006-09-15 03:58AM | 0 recs
Re: Matt, ya gotta give us more context

Has anyone done a competent professional comparative analysis of what the Republican and Democratic parties have built in terms of GOTV voter databases and their accessibility to local races? If so, it should be made public. If not, one should be conducted ASAP.

From what I read, the Republicans are eons ahead of the Democrats in using state-of-the-art technology. They have a single, unified command-and-control center that maintains and continuously updates their database and makes it instantaneously accessible to all candidates and operatives conducting GOTV efforts.

Is it true that the Democrats' prior database building efforts failed and that a centralized database is either not in operation or flawed?

Is it true that going into the 2006 midterm elections and the 2008 presidential election, Dean, Ickes, Emmanuel, the Clintons, et.al are working at cross purposes with each other?

Are they not working to develop a unified multimedia strategy supported by a centralized state-of-the-art database with GOTV accessibility?

The heart of the matter is whether the Dems have a  state-of-the-art database that can be used in all GOTV efforts throughout the country. Do they or don't they?

by Nancy Bordier 2006-09-15 11:42AM | 0 recs
Re: Matt, ya gotta give us more context

Rove did a major analysis in 2000, out of which came the 72 hour project. Dems did studies before 2004. Neither side makes them public because they don't want to advertise strategy. The CSED studies  are the best publicly available data about both sides. The R's took a mediocre voter file system from 2000, invested in it and built process around it over the past six years. Dems tend to tear down what the previous chairman did after each turnover, so they tried to start over in 2005.

Part of the problem on the Dem side is that voter contact is run out of state parties, and states don't want the DNC to have a central file. Dean's 50 state project is partly meant to address that, for a while they considered abandoning a central database and reverting to each state doing its own thing.

The other issue is party versus allies. Many organizations are uncomfortable with or legally prohibited from sharing data with parties, hence the Ickes effort, built on the ACT work from 2004. The DNC and Ickes efforts aren't really at cross purposes, and the DNC has stopped publicly claiming that they are. They are more like two competitive efforts, similar to the competing DNC and ACT efforts in 2004.

by souvarine 2006-09-15 02:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Matt, ya gotta give us more context

Thanks for this info.

I ran for office in 1985 (mayor of a municipality in New York) and the first thing I did after I lost the race was to get the county committee to buy a computer and run the voter list against the telephone list so that candidates like myself would have up-to-date lists with phone numbers on them.

Nearly 20 years later, in 2004 here in northern Virginia where I now live, I volunteered to help with the Democrat voter database in the run-up to the presidential election. I was dismayed to find that the county effort was no further advanced than the county in which I ran in 1985. The norther Virginia party was using a proprietary, stand alone application that could in no way be integrated into a national database, either to contribute to it and benefit from it. Frankly, I had expected that the Virginia Dems' database would be integrated with a national Democratic database using a nationally-generated application with online connectivity.

If the DNC under Dean does not have a a centralized voter database or an effort well underway to build a centralized voter database that can support all GOTV efforts across the board, the Republicans are likely to enjoy a huge advantage that may well spell victory for them in far too many races.

There is nothing secretive about having a centralized voter database run by the national party organization. That's the baseline indispensable tool for running competitive races and using the direct mail and marketing techniques that the GOP starting leveraging 30 years ago to create its electoral base. It's fine for the state parties and even particular candidates to maintain their own databases, but the national party organization should have its own system and it must be first rate.

The only reason I can think of to explain why some of us are in the dark about whether the DNC has a state-of-the-art national voter database accessible to all local GOTV efforts is because there isn't one to brag about. If that's the case, the Dems are in big trouble. If they do have one, which I suspect they do even if it is imperfect, they should shout from the hilltops that they do and that it is available to all local Democratic candidates. (Apologies if they have already done this.) If one is in the works or they are in the process of updating a legacy system, they should pull out all the stops to get it perfected as quickly as possible. And then shout from the roof tops that they have a system that can compete with the Republicans.

Meanwhile, it would be great for someone from Dean's DNC shop to chime in here with the low down on what's going on for those of us who are not in the loop.

by Nancy Bordier 2006-09-15 03:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Matt, ya gotta give us more context

Ah, here we go, a description of the coordinated microtargeting efforts that you and MetaData are looking for, courtesy of the "Ripoff Schemers" Stoller is so agitated about.

by souvarine 2006-09-15 08:12PM | 0 recs
Re: (D)s microtargeting project

Great article, very informative stuff.

Why don't you post a diary on it here,
at MyDD, and at dKos, too, where I spend
more time but had not seen this level
of interesting detail.

by Woody 2006-09-21 09:51AM | 0 recs
Re: New 527 Ripoff Schemes from 'Top Democratic St

Kerry did not lose because of the ground game. He lost because he performed absolutely terribly on the campaign trail. All he had to do was maintain the standard Democratic edge among women, and he's President. But he "voted for it before he voted against it".

I hope Kerry gets embarrassed in the '08 primaries. He made a mockery of the Democratic brand, and killed the Senate candidates down South.

by OfficeOfLife 2006-09-14 06:09PM | 0 recs
*Seriously?*

Seriously, donors need to be retrained.

Seriously?

This must be some new meaning of the word of which I have yet to be informed!

The guy above is right: donors give to folks they are familiar with. I'm not sure to what extent effectiveness is factored in as a consideration.

The Dem Party is too big an organization to command the sort of loyalty that separates big donors from big denominations: they need to feel comfortable, and guys like Matt lists are - their political blankies.

What do they think they're buying? Perhaps Soros thought he was buying success in 04, and was genuinely pissed off when the efforts he funded turned out to have been - not so successful.

Perhaps they like to feel like bigshots; the swanning round shmoozing with Bill Clinton and stuff...

Like so many aspects of the Dem predicament, a root cause of (we'd say!) wayward donor behavior is a belief that Dems are on the brink. They can taste it; one more heave; all that jazz.

By contrast to the 94 GOP, the House Dems are only 12 years and 15 seats away from being the majority.

After having been the natural party of Congressional majority for so many decades, Dems simply haven't got used to the idea that the old ways won't work again.

And - paradox - the better the polls are for the Dems going into the stretch, the less likely is it that big donors (or anyone else in the Dem establishment) will want to rock the boat.

Oh, and

Coehlo more than any individual is responsible for the decline of the Democratic Party - he literally has his fingerprints all over every moral and political debacle of the last twenty five years...

- a tad hyperbolic, perhaps?

by skeptic06 2006-09-14 06:19PM | 0 recs
Re: *Seriously?*

Seriously, what I want to see is what anybody is going to do with big money, because unless Democrats match the sophistication of Republican efforts to identify, motivate and deliver their voters, as evidenced in Rhode Island, the Democrats are going to be humiliated in November.  Again.

by Captain Future 2006-09-14 07:18PM | 0 recs
Re: *Seriously?*

"Perhaps they like to feel like bigshots; the swanning round shmoozing with Bill Clinton and stuff..."

touche

by jesusquintana 2006-09-15 08:07AM | 0 recs
Re: New 527 Ripoff Schemes

It is a terrible shame that all of these funds aren't going to Dem candidates in tight races. Sheesh.

by Whigsboy 2006-09-15 06:33AM | 0 recs
More money is not such a bad thing.

I'm glad to see these people raising and spending money on behalf of Dems. All campaigns waste money, but some of it will make an impact.

All the guys you mention, who are my age or even, if possible, older, have won some famous victories in their time. Please give them (us) our due, for you will be our age some day, as someone else's campaign season opens, hoping that

Some work of noble note, may yet be done,
Not unbecoming men that strove with gods.

Please go back and read Bob Shrum's Come Home America speech and think of what it meant to us. Think of our feelings and his, and don't always be such a tough guy.

I say wish these greybeards well for the next few weeks, and don't forget that not one of us can take on Karl Rove without allies.

Remember, too, that the push-back against ABC's travesty worked pretty well because it worked across the board, DNC, Capitol Hill, Netroots. It did some damage anyway, but it could have been a Swift Boat arrow through the heart of our fall campaigns.

Please. I know what division in the party does. I lived through it. I saw Gene McCarthy's left-wing Democrats walk away from Hubert Humphrey I saw right-wing Democrats betray George McGovern, the best man I ever worked for. I saw Nixon and Reagan profit from our division.

I don't think the Reps can beat us this time. But we can for damn sure beat ourselves.

-Steve

by stevehigh 2006-09-15 07:12AM | 0 recs
We're gonna need Whouley in 2008

Michael Whouley does not deserve to be listed in your diatribe.  The guy succefully ran the field operation that got Clinton elected.  He correctly stopped Al Gore from conceding the election in FL and he turned out more voters for John Kerry than any other Democratic Presidential nominee in history.

Just when I was hoping to listen to itunes and coast through this Friday, there you go again Matt.  

Come on, Kerry lost because he had no message, no decision making ability, no identity.  People like Michael Whouley did their jobs - they overcame the obstacles that this deeply flawed candidate created to give him a fighting chance.  

Kerry lost because of Kerry.  

Michael Whouley is a guy you take to war with you.  And guess what - thats what 2008 is going to be.

by jesusquintana 2006-09-15 07:36AM | 0 recs
Re: We're gonna need Whouley in 2008

and I have to add, that this is particularly short sighted on your part Matt after you JUST saw Clinton in NY.

by jesusquintana 2006-09-15 07:45AM | 0 recs
Whouley ain't no Shrum

I don't know the guy personally, and I certainly don't have a horse in this race, but to claim that Whouley is the Bob Shrum of field is just wrong. Michael Whouley is the reason that John Kerry was our 2004 nominee, period. It was Whouley that came in around Christmas of '03 and completely re-organized the Iowa operation, leading to Kerry's complete come from behind win (he was dead last), that gave him to the big 'mo needed to pull it off.

Now, you can certainly say that Kerry wasn't the right candidate, but that had nothing to do with Whouley. Likewise, the 2004 field program beat every expectation, yes even in Ohio they beat every vote goal in every county. The Republicans just beat their vote goals by even more.

Important to remember that Whouley came onto the national scene back in '92, running the field program of a certain other 'comeback kid.'

I'm not going to say that he doesn't have corporate questions with his group, but common, in terms of his ability to get it done, he ain't no Bob Shrum.

by Chris Shields 2006-09-15 08:57AM | 0 recs
Retrain donors to stop giving to same old same old

Donors have to stop giving just to candidates and campaigns that run from cycle to cycle. They have to start funding infrastructure and long term projects like what Courage Campaign is doing in California and Progress Now is doing in Colorado: creating long lasting coalitions, building tools for activists to use locally, working to smash the traditional "inside the party" system. But they won't do that because there's no immediate quid pro quo. Long term ain't sexy but that's how we win.

by Lemonsquare 2006-09-15 09:55AM | 0 recs

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