Getting Hungry Again

(Bumped back up -- Jonathan)

I haven't blogged very much on Lamont recently, because I've been trying to figure out how to give a bit of gentle criticism to what truly is and has been a remarkable campaign.  So here goes.

I think a great deal of Lamont's character, and I think he's incredibly tough, passionate, and strategic.  He is also a first-time candidate running in an extremely high profile race, so all of what is happening is new to him.  During the primary, being a nice guy worked exceptionally well, but though he was nice, he wasn't conciliatory to Lieberman.  For some reason, it seems like he has become so recently, and that's not good.  I read this Hill article with dismay; in particular this quote struck me as unnecessary and somewhat off.

"I know the man, I respect the man -- he's a man of integrity," Lamont said of Lieberman. "I've never spoken ill of him throughout this entire campaign."

Politics is about respect, but it's about respect for the voters.  And speaking to someone's character, but doing it honestly and respectfully and based on the facts, must be part of the debate.  Lamont can and should respect the process without respecting an opponent who has repeatedly lied and smeared both him and his supporters.  As he is seeking to take Lieberman's job, he has to speak badly of Lieberman because, after all, Lamont's efforts are circumscribed by a basic reality that Lieberman has lost his moral center and his ability to make effective moral and political judgments.  

I don't know if the primary threw him off or something, but if Lamont doesn't want to get his hands even a little dirty, he's not going to win this.  Doesn't he remember the race-baiting?  The paid Lieberman supporters jumping into his face and the face of his family?  Lieberman's crazy talk about attacking Iran?

The article gets a bit worse.

[Lamont] acknowledged that the liberal blogosphere played a large role in his victory, referring to the netroots as "the girl that I took to the dance" and said the party's help will be paramount in winning in the general. But he emphasized the importance of bipartisanship multiple times during the breakfast, which was hosted by the Christian Science Monitor.

I know that Lamont is probably asked about liberal blogs all over the place, but answering the question is a trap.  You should always speak to voters.

Put another, way, honestly, who cares about the liberal blogs?  Who cares about bipartisanship?  As polls show, voters sure don't - they are angry at the entire system and are ready to vote for agents of change.  Ned is getting bogged down in process talk, a deadly sin.  This is not about the blogs.  This is not about what kind of Senator Ned will be.  This is not about the netroots.  This is not even about Ned.  It's about Joe and his failures as a person and and as a Senator in enabling Bush on Iraq and Terri Schiavo.  Keep in mind that if Lieberman wins, he will push for an invasion of Iran (despite ample room for diplomacy).  That's not integrity, that is lunacy, and it will kill lots of young Americans.

Ned has to stop this reckless American foreign policy, and he has to let voters know he'll stop this.  Speaking of how much one respects Joe Lieberman as a man of integrity, and how bipartisanship is key, and then bogging yourself down in process talk about things that voters don't care about (like liberal blogs and ideology in general), is a great way of arguing that voters should reelect Senator Lieberman.

Ned Lamont is still the underdog.  Though he may get meetings with Hillary Clinton, the establishment very much wants Lamont to lose.  The League of Conservation Voters is irresponsibly calling Lieberman an environmental champion (great vote on that energy bill, LCV), and supposed allies like Joe Biden are pushing hard for their friend Joe.

"I don't think there's any of us out there saying `Goddamn, I hope Joe doesn't win,'" said Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.), who has endorsed Lamont in the general election.

Indeed, Democratic senators applauded Lieberman at their weekly policy luncheon, when Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) asked him to brief the caucus on upcoming port-security legislation.

"Welcome back," said Reid, who was scheduled to meet with Lamont later in the day.

After Reid's introduction, Lieberman got "a warm ovation," according to Minority Whip Richard Durbin (D-Ill.).

As much as liberal scrawlers on the Internet are calling for his scalp, Lieberman's courtly colleagues seem to be patting him on the shoulder.

"I'd always like to work with Joe Lieberman," Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who is backing Lamont, said of a possible Lieberman win in the general election.

Others were a little more forward.

"I'm not going to settle for a handshake. I want a big hug," Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.) told Lieberman.

Lamont simply cannot float above the fray.  He will lose if, as Joe desperately wants, this becomes a popularity contest between Lamont and Lieberman.  If Lamont's refuses to forcefully argue that Lieberman needs to be fired (which is a different argument than saying Lieberman is simply wrong but a good guy) - Lamont will make himself look weak. Lamont needs to hammer Joe every day on the cold, hard substance of Joe's behavior in office - and particularly on the integrity point. That doesn't mean Lamont needs to be nasty or mean - but it's not nasty or mean to tell voters why Joe needs to go. That's what democratic elections are all about - challengers being allowed to make the case that those in power are not behaving in the people's interest and are trying to instead mislead voters.

Take, for instance, Lieberman's bragging about how he brings home pork because of seniority. In fact, Connecticut is now 49th out of 50th in terms of ratio of tax dollars it brings home versus what it sends to the Federal government. Worse, that share of investment has dropped massively since Lieberman took office.  Lieberman is in other words lying about his role in bringing home the bacon.  Lamont needs to point that out, maybe adding that Lieberman is a very pleasant man as he lies.  Lieberman isn't going to mince words about Lamont.  Lieberman and his surrogates have already tried to morph Lamont into a hateful antisemitic bin Laden coddler; Lamont can't pretend that a man who puts that out there, a man who sent his goons to disrupt and intimidate people at Lamont events, is a man of integrity.  He's not.  And pretending Lieberman is something he is not undercuts Lamont's whole rationale for challenging the status quo.

In other words, Lamont needs to get back to where he came from.  He should get away from the idea that anyone cares about the strategic minutia of how bloggerz are awesome or mean or whatever.  It's a big psych-out to get him to back off his extremely effective case, which he shouldn't do.  I know Lamont, and Lamont is not a firebrand, but he is passionate about the direction of the country, and he is passionate about integrity.  He needs to get back to that passion, and start hammering at Joe's record.  It's showtime.

Tags: Connecticut, CT-Sen, Joe Lieberman, Ned Lamont (all tags)

Comments

22 Comments

Re: Getting Hungry Again

This was always my question about Ned from the very beginning:  can he be brutal, and do it smiling?  Can he order a political hit, for real, during the homestretch in a tough fight?  Will he define Leiberman's character on Lamont's terms (ie, tell the hard truth)?

I've not seen the evidence yet.  

by Pachacutec 2006-09-10 10:38AM | 0 recs
Re: Getting Hungry Again

Ned needs to go after Gernstein et al. with a vengeance as they are Lieberman's alter egos.  I want to see a candidate who speaks spontaneously in an honest way, even though it may be viewed as a slip up (not in the Macaca sense).  Lieberman's website was and is a travesty.  Set up to create the image of Lamont crazy fringe lunatics and then shut down re: comments so it can become a bully pulpit for drivel and lies.  Gerstein is trying to turn ineptness and his own immorality into a political plus.  He is a slug and I, for one, will step over his slime trail and pour salt all over his smarmy self.

If anyone wants to take the time to utilize Lieberman's website to see just what he has done for CT, just go through his link to the counties, add up the pork and divide by 18 years -- pathetic.  I'm in Litchfield county and we received a little over 4 million in 18 years.  How much was that bridge to nowhere?

by gchaucer2 2006-09-10 12:49PM | 0 recs
I disagree

Nobody cares who Dan Gerstein is in Connecticut. It's a distraction to call out every Lieberman campaign misstep with the same fervor as calling out Lieberman's voting record in the Senate.

Lieberman - helped create the failing DHS that dismantled FEMA

Lieberman - voted to fund the Iranian equivalent of Chalabi, even John McCain voted against it

Lieberman - voted against the new Intelligence reorganization that was central to the 9/11 commission, the only Democrat to do so

Lieberman - the only New England Senator of either party to vote to keep against a waiver for disciplinary standards for special education students

Connecticut voters need to see Lieberman's record, again and again. Ever moment spend highlighting the campaign ineptitude is one less moment spent highlighting the Lieberman record. Dan Gerstein isn't a metaphor for anything. He's a distraction.

It's Lieberman's record in the Senate vs. Lamont's  ideas. That's the contest that Lamont wants and can win. All of this gotcha bullshit which the Lieberman campaign is stirring in a passive aggressive manner has to quiet for the Lamont message to get out. Lamont is a brighter future, Lieberman is a troubled past.

What worked in the primary in terms of tone doesn't necessarily work in the general. The issues and positions are the same but casual voters who are Independent and Republican will never understand or care why Dan Gerstein is an issue, nor should they care.

by joejoejoe 2006-09-10 03:06PM | 0 recs
Re: I disagree

Agree.  I just saw Lamont's new ad with the young guy reading the service people killed in Iraq.  Absolutely devistating.  This is the stuff that will defeat Lieberman, not harping on an unknown political operative.

by John Mills 2006-09-10 04:18PM | 0 recs
Re: I disagree

Bingo!!!  Every second wasted on not attacking or not defining Lieberman is a second Lamont cannot afford to waste in this campaign - a relatively short campaign I might add - until November.  Most voters have had their personal political radars turned off during this summer, it being a mid-term election after all.  Lamont needs to focus on how he'll bring difference to every voter in CT and how he'll do it dfferently than Lieberman and how Lieberman has failed at what he claims to have done.  

Let Lieberman be the one who whines about how tying the millstones of Iraq and George W. Bush around his neck is unfair.  The Republicans plan on voting for Lieberman just to spite the Democrats in the state.  However, most independents don't like Bush either and they can be made to understand that a vote for Lieberman is a vote to continue to support all of Bush's failed policies.  Lieberman cannot run away from that reality and it is the one which haunts him every day.

by VizierVic 2006-09-11 03:17AM | 0 recs
Re: I disagree

Actually, I do agree with joejoejoe re: going on the attack, but it seems that is being done on the webblogs which are pointing out Lieberman's no show on votes, questionable ethics re: the email, which I still do not believe is a slip.  How many of us have said one thing 8 years ago, in our independent little lives, then, with reflection, say something more pointed later?  OK, I'm off the main point which is not to get side-tracked.

To me, Gerstein, Tammy Sun, etc. are important in the discussion, only as to their dissemination of lies and half truths.  I think if someone can hire goons to represent them, it reflects negatively on the employer's sense of judgment.

Hard line true Democrats are, for the most part, on board with Ned Lamont.  Turning nasty is preaching to the choir.  Since I am definitely partisan in this campaign, I've lost touch with what Independents think and what will move them into Neds' corner.

I'm not arguing with you, joe,joe,joe.  I think you always have very good input.  Thanks.

by gchaucer2 2006-09-11 09:59AM | 0 recs
Re: Getting Hungry Again

Lamont should realize how important it is to define your opponent. The last poll of the Lamont liberman race (showing liberman with a lead) showed that most voters thought Lamont was waging a negative campaign.

And that's without even waging a negative campaign. That's all just liberman talk that sunk in in the ether. Lamont needs to turn the tables and do exactly what you prescribe. Eventually the message will sink into people. And only he can do it. The establishment of the Party sure ain't gonna do it for him.

by adamterando 2006-09-10 10:47AM | 0 recs
The best way to beat Joe

is to raise the profile of Alan Schlesinger.

My biggest criticism of the Lamont campaign is that they are not using Schlesinger as a means to get rid of Joe.

Invite Schlesinger to debate Lamont, not just once but on five occasions. Schlesinger would gladly accept it, to raise his profile. Lamont would benefit from it. If 30% of Republicans choose their own candidate then Joe is toast.

by Populism2008 2006-09-10 10:48AM | 0 recs
Re: Getting Hungry Again

This is a very good piece.  I agree Lamont needs to get back on message and stay away from distractions.  He ran a mistake free primary but does seem to be stumbling a little bit right now.  It is still very early in the general election cycle so he has time to get back to what worked.

by John Mills 2006-09-10 10:52AM | 0 recs
Getting Hungry Again

Unfortunately in todays atmosphere NICE GUYS are always turned into Nice LOSERS. I think I saw this coming when Clinton sent Lamont one of her own advisors. WARNING WARNING:  Taking the High Rd will lead lamont into an election DEAD END!

Mr Eddieb
My snark is worse than my bite

by eddieb 2006-09-10 10:57AM | 0 recs
Toast

Ned is done for. In over his head, and up against someone who has learned that Big Lies work.  How insufferable will it be to see Holy Joe's droopy face and hear him condescending to everyone on election night?  I have to laugh when I read all the mockery of his campaign.  Like Connecticut voters give a shit about a bad website or if his commercial had a sunset or sunrise.  Lamont better get his ass in gear. This isn't a primary.  Thousands of GOPers get to vote this time, and Schlesinger is a joke.  

by tuffie 2006-09-10 11:28AM | 0 recs
Iraq

And furthermore: every word out of Ned's mouth should be "What about Iraq, Joe?"

by tuffie 2006-09-10 11:29AM | 0 recs
Re: Getting Hungry Again

When I heard a few weeks ago that the D(L)C establishment was sending consultants to help Lamont, I expected this to happen.

Lamont might as well have let Rove send him over some advisors.

by Sitkah 2006-09-10 11:36AM | 0 recs
Yawn.

What is it with liberal bloggers who think they know exactly what candidates need to do in case? And most of the time it's things that would make them want to vote for the guy.

Ned obviously feels he needs to reach out to independent and even (ghasp) republican voters. He's still hitting on Iraq and that's what people care about.   Ned obviously thinks CT voters don't want a fire-breathing Dean type right now, and it's possible (even likely) that he's right and you're wrong. He may even have done some polling on this.

I'm so tired of this "I'm going to tell you how things are even though they have no basis other then my perception of human nature."  

by delmoi 2006-09-10 12:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Yawn.

You're right.  Why should MyDD have any credibility on the Lamont race?  We were only saying that Lamont was credible back in February.

by Matt Stoller 2006-09-10 02:33PM | 0 recs
Winning the primary isn't the same

...as winning the general election. And it has by no means been established that a bloggish take on the election is by definition always more accurate than a DLC interpretation.

The truth is, we don't know who is going to win or what is going to work until it's over.

A campaign is like a fucking horserace, and it is, indeed, tiresome to hear anyone of any political stripe pontificate with excessive certainty about how to do things.

However, since you asked for my opinion (didn't you?), I think Lamont should say that he, Lamont, is the real independent Democrat, that Lieberman is not  an independent Democrat, but a failed Democrat. Lamont should stress that Lieberman has campaigned against Republicans all of his long career and only turned "independent" when the Democrats rejected him for taking too much special interest money.

It is important that CT independents and Republicans know that Holy Joe is a long-time Democratic party hack who is turning to them only because his own party has grown disgusted with him. He's already-been-chewed gum.

Steve

by stevehigh 2006-09-10 04:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Getting Hungry Again

Great writing, Matt. Lamont needed to come out of this primary swinging, and he hasn't.

by AaronE 2006-09-10 12:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Getting Hungry Again

I hate it when politicians fuck with a winning formula.  If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

For some reason, we Democrats always play "prevent-defense" and then lose.  Kerry is the perfect example:  he always said, "The President" when referring to Bush in 2004; whereas, the Republicans always referred to "Bill Clinton."  It doesn't seem like much, but sometimes a little respect (if left unchecked) can lead to capitulation and losing.

Kissing Joe's ass ain't gonna lead to victory for Lamont.  And Matt Stoller conveyed that brilliantly in this thread.  Stoller should be listened to by these goddam Dems running from now on.

by jgarcia 2006-09-10 04:29PM | 0 recs
Talk to him

I am sure he will give you face time since you put thousands of dollars from MyDD readers.

by jasmine 2006-09-10 04:37PM | 0 recs
Re: Getting Hungry Again

I wish, wish, wish someone still working for Dem candidates would remember the one lesson that 1992 taught us.  Setting aside the fact that Bubba didn't get a true majority of the vote, he won on a single issue: "It's the economy, stupid."

He was able to tie his entire message, on seemingly every issue, to that one little phrase.  There is nothing wrong with being a "single issue candidate" if that issue dominates and relates to almost the entire agenda.

The CT Senate election is about Iraq, stupid (and, by extension, Lieberman's continued position as Bush's favorite democratic lapdog--have you checked the approval numbers of the war and Bush in CT?)

Every third word out of Lamont's mouth between now and election day should be "Iraq."  And every sixth word should be "Bush-Lieberman."  The man ain't going to win many hardcore GOP votes; he should stop even caring about peeling them off.

"Where do we get the money for your education proposals Mr. Lamont?":

"We've spent over $300 billion on Joe Lieberman's and George Bush's war in Iraq.  That would pay for more than 15 million college scholarships in the state of CT.  The cost of the Bush-Lieberman Irag war would pay the salaries of more than five million new public school teachers in CT. Each day we're fighting the Bush-Lieberman war in Iraq is one more day we can't do what we need to do here in CT."

Any terrorism related question:

"Joe Lieberman and George Bush's war in Iraq have made us less safe.  And, with each day that passes, the Bush-Lieberman Iraq war creates more of the very conditions that breed hatred and terrorism.

The Bush-Lieberman Iraq war has created Al Queda cells in Iraq where the CIA admits there were none before the Bush-Lieberman War.  The Bush-Lieberman Iraq war has weakened the American ability to respond to the new threats that arise in the world, many in response to the tragic Bush-Lieberman war in Iraq.

The Bush-Lieberman Iraq war, badly concieved and executed with no plan and less direction, has diverted badly needed resources away from the brave American soliders sill tracking the REAL terror threat in Afganistan while the Bush-Lieberman Iraq war morphs into an Iraqi civil war."

Karl Rove is right about one thing in particular: Elections are about choices and the people who frame those choices to their best advantage win.  Lieberan and Lamont, on most issues, have little difference.  

If you set aside the non-starter GOP candidate, there are basically two major differences for voters in CT this fall.  One is Iraq.  The other is a willingness to roll over for Bush.  Neither one of those things are wins for Lieberman, so it's up to Lamont to frame the debate, and despite a brilliant primary campaign, I haven't seen the same spark since that victory.  The new ad is a start.

Memo to Lamont HQ:  It's Iraq, stupid.

by BillN 2006-09-11 12:06AM | 0 recs
Re: Getting Hungry Again

It's been Iraq since the start of the primary run.  Iraq squeezes out everything else in the Federal budget - and it only gets worse as it goes forward.  We haven't begun to see the full bill for this fiasco  yet.  Lamont does need to tie this albatross tightly around Lieberman's throat until it throttles him.  Lieberman decided to hold it tight to his bosom for the longest time and he should be forced to continue to grasp it as it drags him under.  He's earned his defeat.

by VizierVic 2006-09-11 03:23AM | 0 recs
Re: Getting Hungry Again

The support of Lamont by the entrenched Democratic Senators has been tepid at best.  Ned needs to get back to really working.  He has fallen off of the front pages around the country and is slowly sliding into oblivion.  At this rate he is sure to lose.  If he is going to lose, he may as well do it by going for the brass ring and start hitting LIEberman hard on his record.  Taking on an advisor from HRC simply meant that she could scuttle his campaign quietly.  She is a JoeLoser backer, just as she is still supporting our disasterous venture in Iraq, but by attacking Rummy and backing Ned she can triangulate into a position of winning however things turn out.  I think that this is another thing where everyone that sees what is happening can see the outcome, but the one that we want to help has been beguiled by mixing at the level where he wants to be and thinking that he is there while forgetting that there is the next step to take (the election).  Currently he is only a visitor to that level.

by BearCountry 2006-09-11 10:46AM | 0 recs

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