Jewish Voter Does Not Equal Right-wing Extremist

You know, supporting Israel does not mean supporting a right-wing approach to foreign policy.  In fact, I would suggest that neocon backers who comprise the 'Israel lobby' are deeply dishonest about that.  Their behavior, supporting American wars based on lies, has no ideological coherence exception being pro-lying.  Furthermore, they are putting Israel's existence at risk by supporting an Israeli government that is manifestly against the tough and peaceful legacy of Yitzhak Rabin.

It's also sad though expected for reporters to exclusively quote old neocon Jews when talking about the American Jewish vote.  Here we have David Silverman doing just that.  Read this selection of quotes, who are all from older Lieberman-supporting Jews, and one older Lieberman-supporting Irishman.

"It does present a dilemma," said Steve Grossman, a former chairman of the Democratic National Committee.

"If you consider yourself first and foremost part of the pro-Israel community, you will stick with Joe Lieberman," said Grossman, who also is a past president of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. "If you're so overwhelmingly convinced that ending the war as soon as possible is of paramount importance, I could understand why you would find Joe Lieberman a candidate you could no longer support."

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"I find the behavior of a large segment of the Jewish community to be reprehensible and outrageous," said John Droney, a former chairman of the state party who is advising Lieberman to run as an independent. "When he's in trouble like this, they all ought to rally to him. It's too bad that you have to listen to an Irish-American to realize that you've got to support your own home cooking."

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"The people who are doing this have no concern for Israel or issues of concern to the Jewish community," said Dr. Ben Chouake, president of Norpac, a nonpartisan, New Jersey-based political action committee. "This is an example of an extreme left that really is looking to put a scalp on their wall to show that they have power."

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Democrats in general are missing the bigger picture, said Alan Solomont, a Boston-based Jewish fund-raiser who headed funding for John Kerry's 2004 bid for the presidency.

"The left in our party who favor a different approach to Iraq are turning their fury on Joe in a way that I don't think is particularly helpful," Solomont said. "I differ with Lieberman on Iraq but I don't think Democrats can afford to break ranks right now in the face of extreme right-wing control of the entire federal government."

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"I don't think he's spoken out effectively to things the mainstream Jewish voters feel," said Richard Greenfield, publisher of the Connecticut Jewish Ledger.

The single foreign issue addressed on Lamont's Web site is Iraq. Israel merits a passing mention: "Israel is no safer" since the Iraq war, the site says.

Steve Rabinowitz, a strategist who advises Democrats and Jewish groups, anticipated a split if Lieberman loses the primary.

Of course, the polling that Silverman cites is that Jewish voters support Lamont 50-41.  You would think that Silverman could have found one Jew for Lamont.  

But nah.  Good Jews support Lieberman.  

Tags: Joe Lieberman, Judaism, Ned Lamon, Yitzhak Rabin (all tags)

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Re: Jewish Voter Does Not Equal Right-wing Extremi

Let's not forget Lieberman's last minute "help" to the Kerry camp in 04 (its Newsmax but the quotes are accurate):

Lieberman Praises Bush, Chides Kerry

   Dave Eberhart, NewsMax.com
    Friday, Oct. 15, 2004

Democratic Senator Joe Lieberman took the unusual step of praising President Bush while chiding John Kerry during a campaign stop in Florida Wednesday.

Lieberman, with just three weeks left before the election, praised Bush strongly for his support of Israel, America's lone democratic ally in the Mid-East.

"We are dealing with a president who's had a record of strong, consistent support for Israel. You can't say otherwise," Lieberman told an audience of 600 near Delray Beach, Fla, the Palm Beach Post reported in editions Thursday.

Lieberman also added that any criticism of Bush vis-à-vis Israel would be "unjustified."

After the speech, the paper said Lieberman spoke to reporters and suggested that "Bush appears to have made inroads with Jewish voters, who voted Democratic by an estimated 4-to-1 margin in 2000."

But Lieberman indicated Kerry's support among Jews may be softer, and he chided the Democratic nominee for not coming out more strongly for Israel.

"And I think John Kerry, to reassure people, has to himself be explicit" rather than having surrogates deliver the message, the Post quoted Lieberman as saying.

Lieberman alluded to worries among Jews about Kerry's position on Israel. Lieberman bluntly revealed that he has asked the Kerry campaign to have John Kerry himself discuss his views on Israel because "only John Kerry can eliminate those doubts."

by gobacktotexas 2006-07-07 05:52AM | 0 recs
Lamont campaign should use this excerpt

Post it on their website along with a videoclip of Lieberman protesting during the debate that he is really not a friend of Bush and that he supports Democratic interests first.

by Pravin 2006-07-07 07:33AM | 0 recs
Re: Jewish Voter Does Not Equal Right-wing Extremi

Remember that John Kerry was and is a strong supporter of Israel.  Cam Kerry, John's brother and campaign manager is Jewish. Lieberman was way out of line to attack John Kerry about support of Israel.

The Iraq situation has played into the hands of Osama and Iranian extremists. Iran may be building real WMDs that are a real threat to Israel.  Meanwhile, we have our hands tied in Iraq. The neocons have misplayed their cards and put Israel in danger from newly recruited terrorists and Iranian WMDs. Lieberman has betrayed Israel by his mistaken support of Bush and the neocons.

by FishOutofWater 2006-07-07 08:30AM | 0 recs
Lamont should be loving the piece, surely?

The Jews that are supporting Lamont will feel energised at being travestied in the piece, won't they?!

But - how reliable is that poll? What's the MOE?

And - the Jewish component of the electorate is only 3%. A 10% margin on a full turnout of Jewish CT Dems is worth perhaps 6-7,000 votes. (Primary turnout won't be anything like full, presumably.) Do Jews vote disproportionately heavily in CT?

The interesting effect would be on gentile CT Dem voters if Joe decides to play the Jew card. (One JTA piece, even if solicited by Joe's team, would hardly constitute playing the Jew card, though.)

They might resent it, they might ignore it, they might treat it as some kind of insider recommendation.

by skeptic06 2006-07-07 06:00AM | 0 recs
Re: Jewish Voter Does Not Equal Right-wing Extremi

I guess I'm a bad Jew because I can't stand Lieberman.  Mom always told me I would amount to no good.

by Steve M 2006-07-07 06:11AM | 0 recs
Re:

I totally agree with M. Stoller.  The picture painted by the media is always rightwing, neocon Jews.  In fact, Jews have historically been the solid base in leftwing progressive movements in this country ie. labor, civil rights etc.  Lieberman is a sad representative of our righteous Jewish brothers and sisters!

by kentuckydave 2006-07-07 06:52AM | 0 recs
Re: Jewish Voter Does Not Equal Right-wing Extremi

Progressive Jewish voters are not represented in reports nationwide. The quotes are most often from the "official" Jewish organizations and the most conservative spokespersons.

Michelle Goldberg at salon.com writes that the reports of a "Jewish Lobby" in Washington DC are all focused on the most conservative supporters of the most conservative parties in Israel.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/0 4/18/lobby/index_np.html

by MS 2006-07-07 07:12AM | 0 recs
Which is why liberal Jewish groups need to ante up

The right winger Jewish groups have done a Rovian level effective job of shutting out the liberal Jewish groups in the MSM. It is heartening to see Phillip Weiss, Alterman, and others let their opinions known in magazines giving the rest of the nation an inkling that there are other voices out there.

by Pravin 2006-07-07 07:26AM | 0 recs
Steve Grossman

Isn't Grossman the guy who bailed out on Howard Dean. Good to see his loyalty to Israel and Lieberman means he has loyalty to something. Why the hell wasn't he in charge of Lieberman's primary campaign?

I have no major problem with Jewish voters having a loyalty of sorts to Israel even if personally, I cannot stand the concept of a religious state - jewish or muslim. It is kind of understandable. My grandfather was a freedom fighter in India against the British and I take pride in that. But I will not support blindly politicians even if they are good for India. It is amazing how the media gave Lieberman a free pass for that ridiculous support for Bush and dissent against Kerry regarding Israel. Kerry is no Pat Buchanan and for Lieberman to do that despite knowing Kerry has done his share, means he is an extremist looking for a politician to pander to Israel first. I have heard talk from Indians about how Clinton's people did a terrible job with India in his first term. ANd then Clinton became this hero to them when he went on that tour. I hear talk about how Bush is good for India. But does that influence my vote? Hell no. It may be a tiebreaker if two candidates are about equal, but the way Lieberman invokes the Israel name is ridiculous, especially when he is an elected representative. I would have given him total leeway if he was a private citizen. But the way Lieberman talks, it is clear he takes it too far. And people are quick to accuse us who criticize Lieberman and are not Jewish of being anti semitic. Well, you read the excerpt in the comments where Lieberman praised Bush over Kerry regarding Israel. Lamont should have mentioned that in the debate when Lieberman talked about how he criticized bush in the past and stuck with the Democrats.

It is amazing how a guy quoted in tht article feels Lamont are no strong enough in catering to Jewish voters. Please. Do they really expect the same kind of attention an old veteran Jewish poliician like Lieberman gave them?  And has LIeberman ever listened to the diversity of Jewish opinion on the middle east?

by Pravin 2006-07-07 07:24AM | 0 recs
John Droney

"I find the behavior of a large segment of the Jewish community to be reprehensible and outrageous," said John Droney, a former chairman of the state party who is advising Lieberman to run as an independent.

Who the f*** asked him to be Moses? Pandering twit.

Thank you , come again. (Biden might get a chuckle out of this).

by Pravin 2006-07-07 07:30AM | 0 recs
Re: Jewish Voter

I am a Jew, and most of my family despises Lieberman.  Most of my family is also anti-Israel, and we resent how many Americans neglect to consider how many Jews in Israel are also anti-Israel.  Assuming all Jews support the project of militaristic state building in the Middle East is a big mistake, especially as the Jewish community is itself heterogenous.  Notice there are Sephardic and Ashkinazi Jews, and notice how Israel is largely comprised of Ashkinazi.  Perhaps everyone should view the films of Amos Gitai, who was exiled from Israel.

But what I particularly resent is how some American Jews who have been duped by neoconservative Jewish rhetoric will refer other Jews who do not support Israel as anti-Semitic.  One person even had the audacity to refer to me as an Islamic sympathizer.  Those who are so quick to make such accusations tend to have no knowledge of Zionism, Middle Eastern history, Jewish diasporas and Western intervention in the establishment of Israel as a state.  They also tend to assume that all Jews must assume the baggage of the Holocaust, which is how they justify violence performed by the Jewish state.  And this constant invocation of the Holocaust is very particular to American Jews: European Jews have a much less hysterical relationship to that event, as does my family, which thankfully escaped the Holocaust as they were either in the Soviet Union or in Algeria.  

In this age of New Social Movements predicated on base fundamentalisms, one must learn to shun the blackmail waged by those who have a very naive view of identity politics.

by illinois062006 2006-07-07 09:52AM | 0 recs
Re: Jewish Voter

Illinois062006, I really enjoyed the post.  I'll have to check out Amos Gitai.  Sounds like you come from righteous lineage.

by kentuckydave 2006-07-07 10:35AM | 0 recs
Re: Jewish Voter

Thank you.  We are a very humble people, but we also know when and how to stand our ground.

by illinois062006 2006-07-07 10:39AM | 0 recs

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