Blogging on it all

Watching another blogger go through the cloud of demands for disclosure this past week (Patrick Hynes from Ankle Biting Pundits) --of having to back-track for not going above and beyond the FEC law in disclosure-- made for this post's reflection on the past month of open disclosure of my online life (I've a rant at the end that's more relevant, yet in advance, I'll ask you to excuse the personal post as terribly boring; but given how much serious ink was spilled over things so unimpressive, here's the guest post on the matter).

In regards to bloggers that work for candidates, I've often remarked that it's both the best and the worst of possible intersections. In terms of access, knowledge and impact, I can't imagine any other place in politics that I would rather be. But being an intersection of journalism, campaign work, and activism, it also places the blogger in the position of being held in suspicion by many in both the press and the blog world. Because I've been living in this intersection for the past three years, seeing others come into it and react to it is interesting, as I realize how much I take the whole thing as normal. And, at least from my experience, the notion that any campaign would be paying for blogging (and not the actual goods they are getting) really grants a bit too much strategery on their part. Surely with the skull-drudgery that's done by pseudonym bloggers, but for known bloggers that work on campaigns, I've not seen anything shady at all. This intersection isn't going away, and I hope more and more bloggers are able to work to influence how campaigns are run.

But it's ironic, given how little transparency there is over other mediums of communications (newspaper, radio, television), how much disclosure is demanded in this medium. I've often remarked that the only standard for blogging is FEC regulations, but not surprisingly, more seems necessary to most (or at least among the vocal ones). I've always played by the `rules' in this regard, and either completely not blogged about any candidate I'm working with, openly disclosed the matter beforehand, or stopped blogging completely. I think we've reached the point where some sort of disclosure is the norm, which is fine with me. My only gripe is the seemingly dual standard that people make on bloggers in comparison to the talking heads, for example.

On the other matters that were dredged up. The whole astrology matter is really just a lark that I have to laugh at myself with along with the crowd. You know, I grew up in a fundamentalist Christian family, and that whole mindset took some years in my late teens and early twenties to let go of holding as the absolute truth. Having had that experience, I came out of it with a sense or realizing that you can think you know it all, and not know it, and to not take one's own system of thought so self-righteously serious. Writing the articles under a pen name, associated to me the lack of seriousness with which I approached the matter of looking at politics through the astrological spectrum with, but to others I guess they thought I was hiding the matter. Obviously they don't go away, but I had them deleted from the site to make the issue clear about their relative weight in my political thinking. I found the whole accusation that it was a secret bizarre, given how anyone who was around MyDD during the 2001-2002 early blogging breakout days here, would have seen me linking to those writings as things I did. A bit arcane and strange... ok, live and let live and if you need a laugh on my behalf, feel free... just watch out for the beam.

In regards to the SEC issues, given the agreement I made, I can't unfortunately talk about the details of the case. What I can say is that it happened over six years ago, and it was a civil matter, which in the grand scheme of things places it quite low in regards to such matters. I was a newbie to the world of stock trading, and made some naive mistakes that I would not do again, but I sleep fine knowing what my state of mind was during the time. What a crazy time that was too, as anyone who was around remembers, when we'd ride those stocks up 100's of percent in a matter of weeks or days. I rode the tech stock-holding train all the way down too though, which wasn't as fun. We all make our own mistakes in life. The good thing is being able to learn and get beyond them.

One other point about bloggers and campaigns-- the blogger-criticism part of the blog world strikes me as totally against the spirit of what we are trying to do with the blogs. I hardly think that setting standards above what is done in other media outlets is something that's of vital importance--if it were then the FEC would make it so. My own standard, before I criticize any other blogger, is to look at how that person is acting in a comparative manner to the other things that are going on in the media or campaign world. When you look at how many millions of small donor dollars were totally wasted with Dean's media campaign, it's amazing that people would blog about Markos and myself making $18K the entire campaign and having totally disclosed it every day (Markos) or having stopped blogging completely (myself) to work at the headquarters in Burlington. Obviously, it's not about the money. I don't know if it's just plain ignorance, or that the issue is just not sexy enough, but realizing that, for about 90% of the competitive races, we are going to see the same wasteful media practices in place this cycle--that's what should be getting people riled up!

I will echo what Simon Rosenberg said the other day at an NPI forum. You can point to John Kerry's 2004 media practice (how he spent 70% of the funds) and, more legitimately than with any other issue or decision, conclude, `that is why he lost.' My own small commitment, working with the potential candidate Mark Warner, is that at least I can help shift the practice toward doing things differently from the inside. I came out of the Dean campaign, like most people that have lived through a presidential campaign, needing life rehab to get my mental sanity back. But I also realized, especially after doing the research for Crashing the Gate, how Democrats start so far behind, simply because of the campaign practices (especially with media), and they are still a tremendous obstacle to our winning again. So, I'm still at the intersection, avoiding the traffic...

And just a note about '06. I might have the urge to start blogging here again after labor day to the election. Especially seeing how the gains to be made by Democrats could finally be on their way to finally happening this decade. Given how destructive the rule of Republicans has been to this nation and the world, it'd be about time. Or, who knows, maybe the Democratic Party's continued institutional denial of the existence of cable and the internet, as the media for about half the nation, will be our downfall, ugh.

I can't wait for August and the much needed vacation on the Oregon coast with family and the two kids, Taj, now 6, and Maya 18 months. They are like having happiness show up in reality every day to remind me what's important, and why I work to make change, regardless of whatever gets thrown about.

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Comments

42 Comments

Re: Blogging on it all

Nice to hear your voice again.  I view the majority of criticisms against both you and Kos as  clear evidence of the influence you are both having - and see that as positive.  GOOD on you!

by Dyana 2006-07-28 04:58AM | 0 recs
Much ado about Nothing

I have said this several times now on this site. This is much ado about nothing. Below is a mainly a repeat of what I have said before.

Assuming for the sake of argument, Jerome was a stock tout, in signing the consent decree he "did his time for the crime", and there is no evidence that he has behaved in a crooked or unethical manner since the SEC allegation. To continue in condemnation is neither Christian behavior and is unAmerican. He need not wear a Scarlet Letter} for life.

Jerome has a first amendment right to support any candidate he chooses, whether or not he is on the payroll of that candidate.

Jerome has a first amendment right to run a website and collect ad revenue.

Jerome does not pretend to be non-partisan, unlike Fox News or Bob Novak or Tucker Carlson. (as he has noted above) Since becoming a political blogger he has withdrawn from blogging when he worked for Dean and since signing up with Warner, he has reframed from blogging on presidential candidates and has practically abstained from blogging at all, turning the site over to others. He has made no secret that he works for Warner.

If anything his ethics in this arena have been above board. He has commited no crime in running MyDD or in being a political blogger. It appears to me Jerome has learned from his mistake, assuming he was guilty as charged. That ought to end it.

Contrast Jerome's behavior with a certain [http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/7/26/ 14437/7445 McCain blogger. Over on DailyKos, it was reported a McCain blogger was on the payroll of McCain without disclosing it to his readers. Whose ethics are suspect?

Go on the offensive, contrast the differences: Our guys disclose and blog or refrain from blogging; theirs don't. End of story.

To return to the beginning this is much ado about nothing. Go on the offensive and contrast with pride the difference between Jerome and Markos versus their guys in this area.

by molly bloom 2006-07-28 05:02AM | 0 recs
Best Practices?

Seriouisly.  Why is nobody seizing upon this topic as an opportunity to share what they've learned for the benefit of everyone else who may be facing this dilemma?  For example, I am still left with a huge question that I wish you guys who are on the front lines would step up and answer:

For Progressive bloggers, when we get invited to 'blog for a candidate,'  what 'best practices' protocol should we follow if we accept the invitation--both in legal and ethical terms?

Do we stop blogging on our own sites?  Do we put a disclosure at the top of every post?  Do we stop blogging at big group sites?  Do we say, "Sure I'll blog for you, but I won't take money?"  Do  we tell  people that we are blogging for 'X,' but not taking money?  Do we call ourselves 'consultants,' take money and not worry about disclosure?   Do we incorporate before we take money to shield ourselves from liability?   Do we negotiate contracts, like media placement, with the candidates?  Do we keep separate records of all our blogging?  Do we answer charges of impropriety if and when they arise?   Do we use pseudonym IDs or our own names, Etc., etc., etc.

This is a great, interesting piece of writing--but it is totally silent on any suggestions for best practices.

I just wish there wasn't so much silence on these questions.  I mean...those who are in positions to have enough experience to provide answers, should be able to find a way to give us some without compromising ongoing election strategies or without violating binding legal agreements.

I don't care about any of the accusations,  he-said, she-said stuff.  I just want to learn the best way to do this.

How about a follow up post to this one titled, "You Get The Call To Bog For A Candidate, Here's A List Of Best Practices"?

Thanks.

by Jeffrey Feldman 2006-07-28 05:38AM | 0 recs
Re: Best Practices?

I think Jerome and Markos have shown the simplist Best Practices.
Markos had a single disclaimer in a prominent spot.
Jerome either refrained from blogging completely (Dean) or in Warner's case does not blog about the candidate for whom he is on the payroll  (Warner).

What more is there to say? Considering the examples on the right, e.g. the McCain blogger, the whole attack was/is just a vehicle to (for lack of better term) "swiftboat" a prominent left blogger.

by molly bloom 2006-07-28 06:15AM | 0 recs
I appreciate that point very much

I agree 100% that the original attack against Markos and Jerome was a cheap swiftboating venture.  Cheap right wing attack, and I'm glad it came back to bit them in the ass.

Still...what more is there to say?  Well, a whole book was written on best practices in our political system and suggestions to make that system better.  This seems to be the exact kind of topic that gets discussed at length in this place all the time.  And it has become habit for me--and I think also for the country--to view the principals on these big sites as the experts/leaders of these discussions on questions that concern politics and the internet (e.g., to want to a few words more, perhaps, than 'follow the FEC'--whichis good and appreciated advice, but also a bit, well, out of character with the type of discussion I have gotten used to around here).  

If there is a second edition of Crashing The Gates, I would really hope to see an entire chapter devoted to 'best practices' in political blogging.  I think this topic might be the missing chapter from that otherwise great book.  It can be from a strategic viewpoint, a tactical viewpoint, a legal viewpoint, an ethical viewpoint--I don't care.  But it would be nice to have it.  

Maybe this is just a question of timing--that we won't feel comfortable talking about until Democrats at least win back the House.

by Jeffrey Feldman 2006-07-28 06:44AM | 0 recs
Re: Best Practices?

Personally, when I joined the Menendez campaign, I made the announcement, stopped blogging on the front page here, put a very obvious 'Menendez for Senate' link in my sig file, noted my job in my user profile, and left it at that. I try to make it obvious in every diary I post that I'm on the Menendez for Senate staff and so far, I haven't caught any flack.

Having seen what some people have thrown at Jerome, I knew I needed to go the distance and make sure there was no room for questions. There are tons of races I'd love to comment on here, dKos, Swing State, Blue Jersey, etc., but I just can't. It's frustrating sometimes, but that's the price you pay to work on a campaign you really believe in.

Now, because you all value my honesty, give my candidate money. ;)

by Scott Shields 2006-07-28 06:59AM | 0 recs
Re: Best Practices?

And I think that's the way to do it: disclose and make it prominent, even though it's neither required by law nor consistently practiced in other media.  

What makes things different here is that identity is not nearly as firmly constructed here as it is elsewhere -- thanks to things like YearlyKos many of us have finally met, but we really don't "know" who the other people here are.  And because identity is a little shaky and we don't have resumes and personal impressions ot rely upon, credibility is the key currency in the realm, and it's only built by the quality of your content.  That credibility can be pissed away in a heartbeat if it's determined you're a paid shill.

by Adam B 2006-07-28 07:30AM | 0 recs
Re: Best Practices?

Agreed. Especially with:

even though it's neither required by law nor consistently practiced in other media.

We can and should set a new standard. Far too often the blogosphere is slaved to the 24 cable news standard, and mostly it's to our detriment.

If we want to knock off the worst aspects of the traditional media and force the not-so-worst aspects to shape up, we've got to do better than they do.

by Josh Koenig 2006-07-28 09:12AM | 0 recs
Re: Best Practices?

That makes alot of sense.  BTW:  awesome photo of Menendez with a picture of that famous NJ monument behind him.   So many New Yorkers actually believe the Statue of Lib is New York property.  Fools!

by Jeffrey Feldman 2006-07-28 07:48AM | 0 recs
Re: Best Practices?

YES! And admitted to by a New Yorker, no less!

I knew there was a good reason I liked you, Dr. Feldman.

by Scott Shields 2006-07-29 05:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Best Practices?

If a candidate's family member logs on and writes a diary about his/her mother, father, etc., it's no big deal. I would be very turned off by such a diary talking about his/her opponent. However, a diary about issues and the candidate's strengths is a different matter, as long as the first sentence or sig line fully discloses any relevant information. I enjoy a diary with that personal touch.

Asking for money is a win-win situation. Isn't it about getting the candidate's message out and garnering support? Finally, I like the idea of "higher standards." I would like to see a FAQ about this issue on MyDD.

Keep up the good work, all of you. It is a privilege to be a part of this community.

by misscee 2006-07-28 07:56AM | 0 recs
Re: Best Practices?

I respect your concern for avoiding the appearance of a conflict of interest when you write on politics. But I think the ethical concerns are overblown.

There are tons of races I'd love to comment on here, dKos, Swing State, Blue Jersey, etc., but I just can't. It's frustrating sometimes, but that's the price you pay to work on a campaign you really believe in.

From an ethical standpoint I hate to see a precedent established that the moment you work for Candidate X you become disallowed from speaking your mind on any issue you choose. To me, disclosure of a possible conflict is the only remedy necessary.

I'd argue that your problem is not the ethics of, for example, commenting on Warner's prospects for President while you work to elect Menendez for Senate but is instead the practical reality that as a Menendez staffer what you say publicly may be used against Menendez. That is a reason for silence. Some perceived need to be "ethical" is not.

As with Jerome Armstrong, I hate to see valued voices being removed from the debate over vaporous and inconsequential ethical concerns. You have a right to speak on any subject you choose, including politics, whether you work for a candidate or not. As long as you disclose possible conflicts the question shouldn't be whether you can ethically speak. It is whether it is smart and productive for you to speak about a particular issue or politician.

by Curt Matlock 2006-07-28 01:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Best Practices?

I'd argue that your problem is not the ethics of, for example, commenting on Warner's prospects for President while you work to elect Menendez for Senate but is instead the practical reality that as a Menendez staffer what you say publicly may be used against Menendez. That is a reason for silence. Some perceived need to be "ethical" is not.

True. But a number of grey areas develop in this, as well. What if I blog positively about a 2008 candidate's prospects and then that candidate's PAC contributes to the campaign I'm working for? Couldn't someone allege that it was quid pro quo? It would be kind of silly considering the impact my blog posts might have, but the critics absolutely could -- and would -- attack my ethics for that.

by Scott Shields 2006-07-29 05:30AM | 0 recs
Re: Best Practices?

Good point. Even if you are careful and selective about what you write you can still be compromised if others, even allies, intentionally or inadvertently act in ways that set up the appearance of a quid pro quo.

Still. I'm not sure beyond the inevitable bluster what the problem would be if Democrats working for separate candidates have good things to say about each other. Isn't that just politics?

I guess it depends on how you want to be perceived. If you are trying to be a impartial blog pundit who forms opinions and supports candidates based solely on a "cause", such as progressivism, and you present the furtherance of that cause as the motivation for what you write, then a quid pro quo would violate that trust. But if you are an operative for a campaign I'd personally always assume that political calculations are involved in what you choose to write or say in public. Although I don't dispute your point that your critics might attack you I just don't see a true ethical problem here.

by Curt Matlock 2006-07-29 08:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Best Practices?

If I'm an employee of a campaign (as opposed to an outside consultant), I assume that everything I say can get attributed back to the campaign, so I'd err towards silence.

And here's my basic instinct: there's no good argument against disclosure.  We will find out the truth.

by Adam B 2006-07-31 02:17PM | 0 recs
Re: Blogging on it all

People giving stock opinions now routinely state something to the effect:
Mr. XX (or his firm) has or doesn't have a position in company Y.

So, I think a person working on a campaign (in any "official" capacity) can defuse the entire issue by just putting something like this in their sig line:

"I am a paid/unpaid consultant/advisor for candidate Z".

After than say whatever you wish. If you are posting on some unrelated issue than perhaps add "the opinions expressed are mine and not necessarily those of the candidate."

by rdf 2006-07-28 05:49AM | 0 recs
Re: Blogging on it all

Hugh Hewitt--the mad man of punditry's Right had this to say about writers:

1.  The serious and talented,

  1.  The un=serious and talented, and
  2.  the un-serious and untalented.

However, he conventiently forgot the most important part, and which is "street cred".  Otherwise, the "street crud" will attach itself to the soles of the shoes.

In short, ignore the critics.  They are the messengers from the Gods, sent to inform and remind us all that a well-developed "street cred" always trumps the critics.

by Jaango 2006-07-28 05:55AM | 0 recs
Re: Blogging on it all

It is nice to hear from you and I hope that you start blogging again.  September and October AND November (win or lose) are going to be a lot of fun.

I personally love the meta stuff.  MyDD does that better than anyone else, you and Chris especially.

You say that bloggers should be held to the same standard as other media according to the FEC.  But it seems to me that we should develop new higher standards for all journalists/talking heads/bloggers/etc.  We all know what we have now isn't working.

The media spin is enhanced, created and controlled by a lack of transparency!  Why not blow that out of the water with new standards of disclosure to help people see what is really going on.

I think bloggers should lead the way and push for higher standards for everyone.  

by aiko 2006-07-28 05:57AM | 0 recs
Return to blogging

I've always noted that I thought bloggers like yourself who are actively working a campaign have more insight to share than those on the outside. I'd rather have active insight than pundintry.

by michael in chicago 2006-07-28 06:30AM | 0 recs
Re: Blogging on it all

Jerome,

don't be silenced. Kudos to you for doing what you had no obligation to do - answer your critics on the most inane of their charges. I look forward to reading more from you after Labor Day :)

by azizhp 2006-07-28 07:10AM | 0 recs
Markos Will Never Represent Me

I am furious. How in hell could you write a book with Markos, who's website has abandoned the great and courageous liberal Cynthia McKinney

By SHANNON McCAFFREY, Associated Press Writer Wed Jul 19
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060719/ap_o n_el_gu/georgia_primary

During her turbulent 12 years in Washington, McKinney, the first black woman elected to Congress from Georgia, has been criticized for suggesting, among other things, that the Bush administration had advance knowledge of the Sept. 11 attacks.

I have followed Cynthia's 12 years in the beltway, and she has been one of about four truly solid liberals there.

So how could you have written an actual book with Mr. Marcos, who's website has been promoting her stealth neocon opponent, Hank Johnson? This is total bullshit. We, who have been relying on information from these political blogs (to some extent), deserve an explanation.
__________

By the way, I would encourage you to take a look at what is going on over at the Brad Blog:

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3087

BLOGGED BY Winter Patriot ON 7/18/2006 12:23PM  
REPORTS: GA Dem Primary Votes Flipping from Cynthia McKinney to Opponent Hank Johnson
Problems with Diebold's Paperless Touch-Screen Systems Reported Immediately As Polls Open This Morning...
[NOW INCLUDING SEVERAL UPDATES FROM MCKINNEY ET AL]

Guest blogged by Winter Patriot

According to sources in the Cynthia McKinney camp, Georgia voters attempting to vote for her in today's Democratic Primary are seeing their votes flipped to her opponent, Hank Johnson.

McKinney has a well-deserved reputation for speaking truth to power, asking tough questions, and not backing down (see this video, or read this transcript).

Diebold, on the other hand, has a history of touch-screen machines flipping votes from one candidate to another -- commonly called "vote-switching" or "vote-flipping" -- and otherwise failing altogether.

Georgia, with Maryland one of Diebold's original "showcase" states, employing the paperless version of their touch-screen system, has a history of very strange results in mid-term elections. We'll have more about all this and perhaps some updates, as time permits.

GA's Democratic Secretary of State Cathy Cox has been a longtime Diebold supporter, even appearing on their sales brochures. Cox is running for Governor this year and is, like J. Kenneth Blackwell in Ohio, overseeing the administration of her own election on these machines.

Hat tips to Joseph Cannon at Cannonfire as well as BradBloggers Jason, Laura and Chris.

Will somebody please call the cops?

by blues 2006-07-28 07:42AM | 0 recs
have I missed something?

Maybe I missed it, but when did Daily Kos start pushing Hank Johnson? I don't see Johnson on the netroots candidates page and I don't remember seeing a link to any posts pushing a candidate. Considering it takes a number of posts over a period of time for a blogger to effectively hype a candidate, my guess is that Markos either isn't pushing Johnson or isn't doing a good job (which is unlikely).

I see Johnson has an ad up, but a blogger accepting an ad doesn't mean they support the candidate advertising (just like a candidate buying an ad doesn't mean the campaign supports everything the blogger writes). In fact, I've bashed candidates running ads before.

Can you please provide a link.

by Bob Brigham 2006-07-28 08:55AM | 0 recs
I found the link

Kos, "While this primary has generated some passion, I have no dog in the hunt."

Given the latest poll, if you support McKinney, maybe you should help her try and win votes instead of pushing conspiracy theories online.

by Bob Brigham 2006-07-28 09:06AM | 0 recs
Re: Blogging on it all

Jerome, I strongly urge you to start blogging again. I have a great appreciation of the other bloggers here, but would love to see you posting again.

At the very least, post the exit poll results...

by Bob Brigham 2006-07-28 09:02AM | 0 recs
Re: Blogging on it all

I'll second that....

by BigDog 2006-07-28 10:09AM | 0 recs
Re: Blogging on it all

Jerome is in the top ten of the writers.

by blues 2006-07-28 04:27PM | 0 recs
"Oregon is what America was"

Enjoy Oregon, my man.

On the disclosure tip, I count myself as one who wants you/us to do more than the law requires, and more than the talking heads. Someone's got to raise the bar, and it's not going to be the FEC, you know?

One of the critical core values of what we're trying to bring is, in my mind, transparency.

Politics and campaigning include elements of strategy, subterfuge, and misdirection, true. And you want to be able to surprise your constituents and the opposition for sure. Still, when it comes to matters of public communication, it's vital for the health of the body politic that we engage in legitimate good-faith dialogue.

Money being what it is, it helps to be open about it if you're taking some in return for your services. I say we step our act up and put the shills to shame.

Of course, no one pays me to blog, so it's easy for me to say.

by Josh Koenig 2006-07-28 09:07AM | 0 recs
Re: I found the link

Kos even mentioned the other day he's only refused two ads in the life of DKos. All others are welcome...whether we like them or not.

If the incumbent has the money to buy the space she should.

by BigDog 2006-07-28 10:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Blogging on it all

Your past is your past.  Since you aren't running for office, it's none of my business.  Normally, I wouldn't comment on it except now you've brought it up.

I am frustrated that you can't go into detail about your experience with the SEC.  As a former trader myself, however, I'm a bit shagrinned that you would do the "I lost money too" line to wave away your behavior.  I don't know if what you did was illegal, unethical or just plain dumb.  But it's a big deal since the gamut of possibilities you have opened yourself up to is so wide and potentially so important to what you do here.

Look, I have a past that I'm not proud of (people in AA usually do) that would probably look devastating on a police blotter had I ever been caught.  I don't run away from it, minimize it or wave it like a red cape for people to investigate.  So, I'm sympathetic with your situation.  But.  The lack of details is going to keep this issue, or non-issue alive:  people don't like to be swindled.

That's my 2 pixels.

by vachon 2006-07-28 12:25PM | 0 recs
Important thing....

Is you admitted mistakes and learned from it.  You are not just whining about the direction of the country but actually doing something about it.

I have a question to ask?  Shouldnt we give more prominence to Diebold issues and voter suppression?  How can Democrats win when structurally they are handicapped to win?

When a machine has a backdoor, how can you trust it especially any shennigans will not have any proof?

by jasmine 2006-07-28 02:53PM | 0 recs
It Matters Big-Time To Me

Let me set you folks straight. I am not furious about Jerome writing with some evil ogre called Markos. I am furious for his writing with a naive kid named Markos. Please understand that this is the reaction of a person who has been around anti-war movements for a long, long time, and I guess I'm kind of an aggressive pacifist. In my eyes, running anything that goes against the approximately three people whom I trust in Washington, Kennedy, McKinney, and Conyers, looks just about like running an ad for the KKK. You can call it a "stupid issue" all you want. It matters big-time to me.

by blues 2006-07-28 04:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Blogging on it all

I, too, was seriously injured by stock manipulation.  I may never be able to retire because of it.  I don't care how young you were, or how naive, your actions contributed to that injury.  You're not entirely responsible for my losses, but you are somewhat, and I'd think you could muster up just a tiny bit of contrition over the issue.

As to astrology, please re-post some of the comments you believe show that you considered the whole thing a lark.  The postings I saw didn't look like that at all.  I'd like to judge for myself how seriously you were taking it.

And as to the damage that non-disclosure can do in the blogosphere, I point you to some of the discussions on Daily Kos and here about the machine-chosen candidate Tammy Duckworth vs. the grassroots candidate Christine Cegelis in the Illinois 6th primary this past March.  Many of the commenters were paid shills of the DCCC who didn't announce their allegiance, but some of whom were found to be posting from IP addresses owned by the DCCC.  I'm convinced that they plus the big money raised by the Chicago political machine for Duckworth were the cause of her narrow victory.  Yet the other candidate was exactly the kind you and Markos, in your book, profess to want in office.  Neither your nor Markos backed your preferred type of candidate.

It matters greatly to those of us who want a government accountable to the people when those who profess to speak for us are found to be less than what they seem.  It gives all of us a black eye.  And your blitheness about the whole thing makes me wonder if you really have learned anything.

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com

by Caro 2006-07-29 05:37AM | 0 recs
and . . .

. . . some commenters here were paid contractors of the Cegelis campaign, who didn't admit to such when questioned point-blank.

by Adam B 2006-07-31 02:19PM | 0 recs
Re: and . . .

Name them.

There was one poster who had earlier gotten a small amount of money for doing some specific work on Cegelis' website, not for blogging.  There were no other commenters paid by the campaign, to my knowledge, just people who were fed up with the Chicago machine and its disregard for the grassroots, and the complicity of the supposedly-for-the-grassroots blogosphere.

Besides, your comment makes it sound as though you believe unfair tactics are okay, as long as both sides are using them.  I reject that position.

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com

by Caro 2006-08-01 03:41AM | 0 recs
Re: and . . .

I believe that blogging-without-disclosing is bad no matter who does it.   And Michael in Chicago was paid ~$7000 by the Cegelis campaign during the primary, apparently for graphics-related work.  It's not a "small amount of money", and it should have been disclosed.

by Adam B 2006-08-01 08:48AM | 0 recs
Re: and . . .

Is it your position that one blogger who was paid by a campaign, but not for blogging, is the same as several DCCC staffers pretending to be gushing admirers of a machine candidate?

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com

by Caro 2006-08-03 02:28AM | 0 recs
Re: and . . .

Michael made far more posts on this and other forums than anyone you're referring to.  There's very little evidence of DCCC online involvement, IIRC.

by Adam B 2006-08-03 10:23AM | 0 recs
Re: and . . .

Dream on, Adam, and you'll be taken advantage of every single time.

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com

by Caro 2006-08-05 11:01AM | 0 recs
Re: and . . .

How do all of you know that I am secretly blogging for WalMart?

by blues 2006-08-05 12:25PM | 0 recs
Re: and . . .

Go ahead and make fun.  And then be devastated when the whole online movement falls apart.  Because that is what will happen if the people most publicly allied with the movement are not as honest and open as they can be.

We have to BE what we want our representatives to be.  Otherwise, we're just as corrupt as they are.

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com

by Caro 2006-08-06 04:24AM | 0 recs
Re: It Matters Big-Time To Me

McKinney may go out on a limb rather frequently, but black congresspeople are known for that, and I admire it. She has a rock-solid liberal record 12 years long. Her challenger, Johnson, who managed to get an ad in at dkos, has a track record just about as skimpy as they come. Running the ad didn't make Markos look all that sharp in the tactics department. With all due respect, I think he might do well to review his approach to this type of situation.

by blues 2006-07-31 01:42AM | 0 recs
Re: It Matters Big-Time To Me

Is the KKK listening?

by blues 2006-08-05 12:16PM | 0 recs

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