Moving Toward Unity and Progress On Election Reform

Salon's Farhad Manjoo has posted a response to RFK Jr.'s Rolling Stone piece. For whatever it is worth, I am with RFK Jr. on issues surrounding voting machine allocation and voter registration purges, but with Manjoo on issues surrounding exit polls and vote stuffing in rural counties. There is an old saying in politics that the governing party of a state can add between 1% and 2% to their Presidential nominee in a state. I think that is more or less what happened in Ohio, through intentionally poor voting machine allocation, preventing new voter registration, challenging voters in minority precincts, and police intimidation. In short, I believe pretty much everything I have read about voter suppression, but basically nothing I have read about actual vote fraud. Were Republican efforts at voter suppression enough to swing the state? Hard to say. In my opinion, it would have been very, very close.

There comes a point, however, where as progressive netroots activists we have to move beyond arguing over the minutia of the issues surrounding exit polls or a handful of precincts in various parts of Ohio. Simply rehashing these old arguments is not going to get us very far in creating the sort of electoral reform we need. Trying to label "fraudsters" as insane conspiracy nuts is not going to get us very far. Trying to validate a persecution-based identity by claiming that even many "A-list" progressive bloggers are behind some sort of conspiracy of silence isn't going to get us anywhere. From what I can tell, there are only two things that will allow us to move forward with unity and hope. First, we need a lot more on the ground activism to try and retake control of our electoral infrastructure. Second, we need a national agenda for election reform that people on all sides of this issue can get behind. Maybe one comes before the other--I don't really know. I do know that we need both, and that right now we don't seem to have much of either.

I can think of a few aspects of such an agenda that I imagine would unite almost everyone on all sides of this debate:
  • Verifiable paper trials for every vote.
  • Universal voter registration.
  • A national holiday on Election Day.
I think these issues would find nearly universal appeal, but even if they do not that short list is just a start. What are the issues surrounding election reform that we can all unify behind? We need such an agenda so that this seemingly endless discussion about Ohio 2004 can actually turn into real activism and real reform. I look forward to the Yearly Kos panel on Election Reform, which I hope can help jump start said agenda and activism. Also, if you have any such ideas, I would like to hear them in the comments.

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Voters' Bill of Rights

John Bonifaz, a national leader on election reform and voting rights, has a Voters' Bill of Rights as the keystone of his platform in his campaign for secretary of state of Massachusetts (disclosure: I'm his campaign blogger).  The Voters' Bill of Rights highlights concepts, then fleshes them out with specific proposals or ideas.  I think that makes it a more effective communication tool, and a great starting point for a national agenda.

Here are the 10 points on the Voters' Bill of Rights:

  1. Count Every Vote
  2. Make voting easier
  3. End the big money dominance of our electoral process
  4. Expand voter choice
  5. Ensure access for new citizens and language minorities
  6. Level the playing field for challengers
  7. Ensure non-partisan election administration
  8. Make government more accessible to all of us
  9. Re-authorize the Voting Rights Act of 1965
  10. Amend the US Constitution to ensure an affirmative right to vote

Each point comes with a paragraph or two outlining the policies that would make it happen, such as public financing, paper ballots, election day on a weekend or holiday, etc.  Read the whole thing.

by cos 2006-06-04 01:22PM | 0 recs
Re: Voters' Bill of Rights

Excellent set of goals!! Problem is the Repukes will try and stop every one of them. Their goal is voting ala 1785. Male White Property owners only. Says so right here in the bible you got aproblem with that MAN?

by Blutodog 2006-06-04 03:58PM | 0 recs
John Bonifaz Has Been On This Forever

I have no connection at all to his campaign. I just know something of his past work. Among the innovative ideas he has had--challenging the existing plutocratic system as a "wealth primary" that is unconstitutional on exactly the same grounds as the old segregationist "Jaybird" primary in Texas.  This is clearly the sign of someone who thinks way outside the box (as opposed to talking about thinking outside the box).

Here, however, what we have is the complementary side of Bonifaz's strength.  He's not just a creative thinker, he's a comprehensive nuts-and-bolts kind of guy as well.  And that's what we need on this issue: not just a couple of good high-profile ideas, but an entire integrated package.

Take #7, for example: "Ensure non-partisan election administration."  This is taken for granted in almost every other part of the world.  But here in the US, it isn't even on most folks' radar screen.

I'm the kinda guy who, given a choice, votes for the candidate who does his homework, over the candidate "I'd like to have a beer with."

Because, quite frankly, I'd like that beer-drinker to be able to devote all his attention to the one thing he does best.

by Paul Rosenberg 2006-06-04 07:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Moving Toward Unity and Progress

This hits the right notes.  The exit poll stuff has been pretty well demolished, but the other aspects of voter suppression are mostly real.  The point isn't what difference it might have made, but what we are going to do about the problem in the fall election, and in the coming Congress.  Getting a say in the election machinery at the county level is very important; raising the issues and getting some sort of oversight in Ohio, for example, is key.  

I particularly enjoyed your piece about what you went through to become a committeeperson.  That was great reading, and a great example to others.  That is exactly what is needed.

by Mimikatz 2006-06-04 02:10PM | 0 recs
Forget about paper trails.

I think paper trails are a half-measure. After all, there was a verifiable paper trail in Florida in 2000 and look what happened. I propose paper ballots that are counted by hand in public. No ballot should ever be counted by a machine again.

by Gpack3 2006-06-04 02:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Forget about paper trails.

I agree!! The only thing verifiable is a PAPER Ballot not a print out. Machines are too easily hacked or pre-coded for the results wanted.

by Blutodog 2006-06-04 03:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Forget about paper trails.
I wrote a diary about a Wired article that shows:
If You Can Read This Diary, You Can Hack Diebold
by doug r 2006-06-04 06:09PM | 0 recs
Re: Forget about paper trails.

Nice diary. It sems everything u said in that diary was true and as we now know it's far worse. Diebold it seems has intentionally made these devices so they can be hacked etc. I think it's to intentionally destroy our elections system. Like every other criminal plan Bu$hCo is involved in HAVA means just the opposite of what it says. It really means Help America to Vote (republican) Act.

by Blutodog 2006-06-07 06:43PM | 0 recs
Re: Forget about paper trails.

Hear, hear.  The term "paper trail" is meaningless.  You want a voter-verified paper ballot AND a proper audit and nothing less.

Electronic voting machines are good for the convenience of a preliminary count and nothing else.  

by eRobin 2006-06-04 06:40PM | 0 recs
I'm glad you wrote this. . .

I like the idea of some sort of Right to Vote Constitutional Amendment as well.

by Pachacutec 2006-06-04 02:50PM | 0 recs
Another good idea
... would be really reliable exit polls. There will always be questions with the official counts when over 120 million Americans are closely divided in their choice of who should lead them. If we had exit polls that were more reliable than the ones we have now (which have never gotten an election 100% right, and which have consistantly overstated Democratic performance in the last 15 years), we would have more reason to also be confident in the official tallies that matched up to those exits.
I have a few ideas about how that could be accomplished, and I may diary on this, but in short:
  1. Sample more voters nationwide. With over 100 million voters voting, we should not be confident in any poll that has less than 100,000 voters surveyed, including at least 1,000 in every state and more in swing states.
  2. Sample more voters at each precinct. The 2004 exits were somewhat off in states like Ohio because they were way off in just a few precincts. Pollsters should sample at least 100 voters from each location. Anything less can lead to huge errors when these small samples are extrapolated out. One of the current problems is that the impression of exit polls being single, large, and statistically significant is misleading: they are really hundreds of small, statistically insignificant polls lumped together.
  3. Sample more precincts. Another way to prevent a few mis-polled precincts from tainting the entire poll is to poll far more precincts, and to toss out results from the precincts that give results most radically different from the previous election year. In any given election, certain precincts WILL be mis-polled. But by throwing out the outliers and having enough remaining precincts to give a result, the overall poll will be more trustworthy.
  4. Use turnout as well as responses to predict the outcome. NCEC data shows that precincts tend not to change radically from one election to the next in terms of partisan leaning. By choosing 100 or 200 indicator precincts in a state, and checking the final tally of voters voting in those precincts (not HOW they voted, but the total number of voters), one could predict the outcome if not absolutely, at least in relation to the previous election.  
These are just off the top of my head, but would be steps in the right direction.
by James Gatz 2006-06-04 03:15PM | 0 recs
Re: Another good idea

Exit polls are very reliable or were right up until the 2004 election if the MSM and the Repukes are to be believed. Ask yourself what chance in hell is it that almost all of the exit polls were wrong but only favoring Bu$h? It was  a statistical impossibility is what it was. The nonsense explanation that GOP voters were shy has been totally disproved. In fact the opposite was found to be the case. The exit polls weren't wrong and Bu$h lost but Stalin's ghost was counting so we all know how that works.

by Blutodog 2006-06-04 03:55PM | 0 recs
D'oh.

It's my panel.  We don't have anyone on the panel who specifically addresses this; my fear when I planned this panel, quite frankly, was in being overwhelmed by the "nothing else matters if the elections are rigged" attitude that you've flagged previously.

But we're talking about public financing, Internet/elections and IRV/proportional representation, and I have a feeling all the panels, esp. Mr. Novoselic, might have some thoughts on this one.

by Adam B 2006-06-04 04:26PM | 0 recs
Re: D'oh.
How would having a panelist who is an expert on the issue of electronic voting and electronic voting fraud lead to "being overwhelmed by the 'nothing else matters if the elections are rigged' attitude"?  
That ommission from your panel was a big disappointment to me.  It's probably not too late to let it go uncorrected.
by eRobin 2006-06-04 06:44PM | 0 recs
Re: D'oh.

At this point, it'd be rude to the people who are traveling to be on the panel to cut down their time.  

And we've certainly seen, both here (and discussed by Chris) and on the other blogs evidence of that attitude.

We've got just 75 minutes for the panel.  I can't please everyone.

by Adam B 2006-06-04 07:25PM | 0 recs
Re: D'oh.
We are not doing this again, are we? In my experience, there are most diaries about how I am am not paying attention to voting fraud than comments in my front page posts on voting fraud. It is almost as if the only thing people who write about electronic voting fraud want more than for people to believe them is for people to not believe them. Being persecuted about exclusion and media / blogger silence on the issue is almost as important as the issue itself.

Further, many people who blog ont he issue do in fact insist that nothing esle matters unless the machines are fixed. There is nothing new about this attidue--many progressives have always demanded that their ONE BIG ISSUE must be the one that eveyrone pays attention to above all others. By contrast, he clearly wanted to address the many issues surrounding eleciton reform, from campaign finance, to voter retrenchment, to media laws, to voting guarantees, that would be dimished if it focused specifically on one issue above all others.

This isn't even to mention the long history of flame wars that discussions on this topic has online. In the interests of avoiding internal conflct during the biggest online media event of all time, I don't think that was a bad omission at all.
by Chris Bowers 2006-06-04 07:28PM | 0 recs
Re: D'oh.

Getting rid of the machines is a huge issue for me. Probably as big as it is for anyone. But is it my only issue? Certainly not. I have had a couple of posts troll-rated because of my stance on the question -- but I really do not recall any flame wars at all. A lot of disagreement at times, but never any flame wars. Maybe it's not the 800 pound gorilla in the living room. Maybe it's only 600 pounds. But that's still a lot of gorilla (at least for my living room).

by blues 2006-06-04 09:13PM | 0 recs
Re: D'oh.

I'm with you.  Nobody is suggesting that no other story should be covered.  We are suggesting that the lack of coverage of the biggest story of the century is a lack of due diligence. (to coin a phrase)

Chris writes:

Further, many people who blog ont he issue do in fact insist that nothing esle matters unless the machines are fixed. There is nothing new about this attidue--many progressives have always demanded that their ONE BIG ISSUE must be the one that eveyrone pays attention to above all others.

Except that losing this battle means losing our only avenue to peaceful change in government.  How is that not the biggest story around?  More to the point, how is that not even considered one of the biggest stories around?

I still don't get the resistance to talking about it on the major blogs and I don't buy the idea that a single panelist expert on this topic would have derailed the discussion coming up at YKos.  Simple (and probably unnecessary) stipulations at the beginning of the discussion would have calmed all the worries that anyone frightened by VVPB activists was harboring.  

The solution to the problem is not even too terribly complicated: voter-verified paper ballots and proper audits mandated by federal legislation. 28 states already have VVPB legislation on the books but with insufficient audit provisions, which renders their laws toothless.  

Keep the computers if they make voting fun, but don't rely on them for final counts.  

by eRobin 2006-06-06 08:52AM | 0 recs
Re: D'oh.

"It is almost as if the only thing people who write about electronic voting fraud want more than for people to believe them is for people to not believe them."

There's no call to be insulting, Chris.

Every suggestion mentioned about election reform here was floated five years ago after the Florida debacle.  Absolutely nothing positive has happened to improve the quality of elections.  Indeed, there have been several elections since where extremely dubious results have happened:  Georgia 2002, Ohio + other states in 2004 and Ohio 2005.  

Do I think there's a slam-dunk case that voter fraud has happened?  No.  Do I think the decision to rely on voter fraud is becoming a stock part of the Republican playbook?  Certainly.  

The reason why people focus on the issue of voting is because knowing the actual result of the election (in terms of how people wanted to vote) affects everything about politcal strategy.  If you think Kerry won in 2004, you have no patience for the "centrists" who continue to insist that Northeastern liberals cannot win a national election.  If you think the "values voters tide" was just a myth created by the media without basis in reality, you have no patience for people who want to pander to the religious right.

And ultimately, the willingness to demand fair elections cuts to the core of the "wimp factor" that Democrats have had to deal with since the days of Nixon.  If Democrats are unwilling to stand up to Republicans in demanding fair elections, the electorate will rightly decide that Democrats will not be able to stand up to foreign powers in matters on the world stage.  

Why do you think the Warren County polling station was shut down on Election day 2004?  Do you think the "terrorist alert" was legitimate or bogus?  All signs point to the conclusion that it was bogus.  Do we have to have a confession from the people involved before we draw that conclusion?  

Part of the problem is that you seem to think that the traditional rule that the vote can be manipulated by 1-2% by the party in charge will still hold in the electronic age. With computers doing the tabulation using proprietary code, that is no longer the case.  A handful of bright teenagers could write code that would do a better job than that.

If we continue to shrug and focus solely on the politicking without caring about the integrity of the elections, then we are playing the game like Charlie Brown to the GOP Lucy.  And every November, we'll find a "surprise" that "exit polls are not reliable" and "values voters came out in force" or "curiously, those proposals to reform Ken Blackwell's job description that were favored by a 2-1 margin five days before the election somehow lost by a 2-1 margin on Election Day.  In an election run by, um, Ken Blackwell".

And your response is to insult people.  Very disappointing.

by RickD 2006-06-05 01:46AM | 0 recs
Re: D'oh.

I don't think Chris wants to insult people. I do think this issue is crystallizing in such a way that it is becoming rather difficult to deny that there is much that must be done if elections are to retain any credibility. I think some of us who are maybe a bit paranoid about the danger of conspiracy theories are going to get cornered on this one. And let's face it, when cornered, we respond pretty much like...

by blues 2006-06-05 02:43AM | 0 recs
And this would hinder Republicans how?

The Republicans have employed the same tactics to disenfranchise voters for the past quarter century, and none of the steps suggested would put a stop to any of them.

What would?  IMHO:

* Allow election day registration.  If a voter is surrepitiously purged from the voter file by a Republican operative, or if a new registration didn't take, they can re-register on election day and cast a ballot.

* End felon disenfranchisement.  The Republican Party exploits laws that deprive felons of the right to vote to scare others away from the poll.  Repeal those laws and nullify the threat.

* Count ballots cast at the wrong precinct.  If a voter casts a ballot in the wrong precinct, rather than invalidate the entire ballot, count all those races in which the voter is qualified to vote.

* End partisan challenges to voter registrations.  I have no idea where this policy came from, but I can't imagine any reason why we would permit a Republican Party operative to challenge a Democratic voter's registration at the polls on election day - or vice versa.  It just doesn't seem right.

Fact is, until these come to pass, The Republican Party will continue to employ every tactic they did in Ohio, with similar success, just as they have for years.

The Republican Party rewrites election law to improve their chances at the polls.  Why do you think they've been so high on voter id?  Because it disenfranchises Democratic voters.  The least that the Democratic Party can do is rewrite election law to make it more difficult for the Republican Party to disenfranchise voters.  

It should be a no-brainer: look at the tactics that Republicans use to disenfranchise voters and CHANGE THE LAW TO RENDER THEM INEFFECTIVE.

by Drew 2006-06-04 05:14PM | 0 recs
Venezuela paper ballot e-machines

http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/articles .php?artno=1197

Step 6: Once the voter has settled on an option, he must push the square labeled "Vote" to register his decision. Upon pressing "Vote," a sound will be emitted, telling the people at the voting table that the voter has finished the process. At this point, a physical record of the vote is printed out.

Mujica explains, "The physical vote is a paper that records all of the data of the event: CNE, 2004 Referendum. It also has a code for the voting center location, the table, and the volume (electoral notebook). It has a security code, which is very important to avoid falsification. This is all printed on security paper along with the question, and the voter's response."

Step 7: The voter takes the paper and- confirms that the question and the vote registered are correct. He folds the paper in half to guarantee privacy, returns to the voting table, and puts the paper ballot in the ballot box in front of the table members and witnesses.

by jasmine 2006-06-04 06:52PM | 0 recs
Heartland PAC's VOTES Declaration

Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack's Heartland PAC launched the VOTES Declaration, a clear set of principles for conducting elections and for supporting secretary of state candidates who will uphold these principles.

To restore public confidence that voting is a right not a privilege I believe:

VERIFIABLE: Every vote cast must be counted by a system that is auditable with a verifiable paper trail.
OBJECTIVE: Every election official must conduct their responsibilities openly and objectively to restore public confidence.
TOUGH: Every law to prevent voter intimidation and fraud must be vigorously enforced.
EQUAL: Every citizen must have equal access to locations, adequate machines and well-trained election judges.
SECURE: Every voting machine must be secured during all aspects of voting to protect the integrity of the count.

Governor Vilsack is asking people to sign onto the VOTES Declaration. The signatures will be sent to state elections officials.

Lauren Miller
http://www.heartlandpac.org

by laurenm 2006-06-05 06:12AM | 0 recs
"Verifiable paper trials" is weak
As founder of MidHudson Verified Voting, I believe the RFK/Rolling Stone article is a watershed event in media coverage of post-HAVA voting concerns. Bowers agenda begins with a weak target: "paper trail". Paper ballots counted with ballot scanners (PBOS) are better. The difference between a a paper ballot and a paper trail needs to be highlighted.
  • - Only 31% of voters compared the entire computer printed paper trail to the screen upon which they voted. That means the paper (legal record) has more often than not been UN-verified by the voter. Contrast this to a system where the voter marks their ballot by hand. The paper is inherently 100% voter-verified.
  • - The paper trail is generated by the computer, rather than directly by the voter. It is controlled by the software, some of which is secret.
  • - With an Automark ballot marker, a blind voter gets audio verification of the paper ballot. A blind voter cannot get such verification with any currently marketed touchscreen, even those that print a paper trail.
  • - Voters get more time to consider their voting in a PBOS scenario. No lines form behind the voter as they mark their ballot in a privacy booth. In contrast, lines do form behind the voter while they enter their choices on a touchscreen; this is particularly uncomfortable for some handicapped voters who may take upwards of 35-40 minutes to cast their votes.
  • Finally, I think this analysis this analysis of Farhad Manjoo's comments on the RFK, Jr. article goes a long way to articulate the voting machine situation both past and present.
    by Vicky Perry 2006-06-05 06:57AM | 0 recs
    Re: Moving Toward Unity and Progress On Election R

    I'm sorry but I disagree with part of your analysis. While the voter supression on the front end was egregious, and a complete reform of election process is needed to prevent this stuff from happening again, the rural county vote-stealing is vortually certain and was where we know the election was stolen. There just isn't any other explanation for the well-researched anomalies that we in Ohio have known about for a while. In fact, although I knew pretty much everything in the Rolling Stone article already, RFK added information about the rural vote flipping which pretty much for me marked it as undeniably true. I understand it's scary to admit to this, but to create a system where it can't happen, we have to do this. And it happened.

    As for the exit polls, no one has yet explained to me why polls that were always so correct and are still always deadly accurate in other countries, have suddenly gone so off the rails in recent years. What methodology change dovetailed with this sudden inaccuracy that has not been changed in other countries from Germany to Lithuania? Still haven't seen it. The "shy voters" explanation, pulled out of their asses, was thoroughly debunked by RFK and defies every psychological study ever done which shows that people are publically more afraid to express an unpopular opinion than a popular one and more likely to go along with power than to defy it. I'm open to further explanation on the exit polls but so far, it hasn't been forthcoming.

    Ultimately it doesn't matter. The Ohio election WAS stolen in a handful of rural counties where Blackwell had trusted operatives, and this just needs to be stopped in the future. And today word comes of another potentially suppressive move from Kathy Harris Blackwell's office, with more onerous registration restrictions. He needs to be stopped, stopped, stopped. www.tedstrickland.com. Help us elect his opponent and end his poltical career.

    by anastasia 2006-06-05 07:45AM | 0 recs
    Re: Moving Toward Unity and Progress On Election R

    I think it's telling that people who decry exit polls as inaccurate point to other elections where Republicans did surprisingly well compared to exit polls.  

    The main problem with exit polls is where somebody extrapolates from a small number of polling stations to make a presumption about results in a larger area.  An exit poll needs to be considered in the context of where it was done.

    Having said that, it seems pretty clear that an exit poll restricted to one county ought to be pretty damned accurate, and that's certainly true when you look at only one precinct.  When you look at the polls from Ohio 2004, something starts to stink pretty rotten.  The voting percentage numbers also smell rotten.

    In one precinct in Ohio, ten registered voters didn't vote.  The rest did, yielding a voting percentage of 98.55%.

    I wonder if everybody who read the RFK article also went to the trouble to look at the "charts and graphs".  There is information in there that is not covered in the text of the article.

    by RickD 2006-06-05 11:01AM | 0 recs
    Re: Election Reform

    No matter what proportion of Manjoo's critique is correct, Rolling Stone was correct to get the issue out there in the open again.  Maybe they can embarrass their MSM cousins to get off their butts and do some reporting -- possibly even a catalog of RFK Jr.'s errors.  Anything is better than chanting RNC blast-faxes.

    by drlimerick 2006-06-05 09:08AM | 0 recs
    My Election Reform Item List
    • Ranking/Rating ballot - no more spoilers, vote your conscience, no worry of 'throwing your vote away'
    • Voting Machines - untrust worthy and a waste of money. it'd be cheaper to count by hand.
    • Campaign Finance - dirty money. clean money
    • Fair Districts - Non-partisan. Anti-gerrymandered. Based on simple rules.
    • Ballot Access - Just getting on the ballot can be hard.
    • Right to Vote - No intimidation. No misinformation. Guarantee the ability to vote of people who are supposed to be able to vote.
    • Legislative Telecommuting - Keep your representatives at home in their districts.
    • Proportional Representation - Ideological rather than geographical distribution. A 5% party gets 5% of the seats.
    by bolson 2006-06-05 09:20AM | 0 recs
    Re: Progress On Election Reform
    I can't understand your problem about looking at the technology clearly and acknowledging its faults.  The viewpoint seems actually "Republican" in its insistence on ignoring the science for the ideology of your point of view.
    If you do not want to accept what you call "conspiracy theory", look at the lengthy listings of verified errors that votersunite has compiled for Diebold, Sequoia, and ES&S voting equipment.  Look at the reports of failed equipment, technical breakdowns and equipment errors that have been reported in local news outlets in states and counties across America.
    The breakdowns indicate that none of the major companies are producing even competently functioning voting equipment at the present time, despite charging the voters tens of millions of dollars, and there is actually no supplier who is producing a functioning voting system.  That is a HUGE problem.
     The choice of faulty, error-riddled equipment from any company that might be seen as the lesser of evils, by every county now faced with the choice, is not a secure basis for our vote in America.  There is presently a total breakdown of competence among these manufacturers that is consistent with the way we've seen government contracts awarded in the Katrina debacle and in Iraq for instance.  It is well documented on a daily basis. --Please look at http://www.votersunite.org and the Daily Voting News of John Gideon.
    You cannot afford to keep blinders on about this breakdown.  Where are we going to get the equipment which is trustworthy?  Who is going to test it?  The  ITA, "independent" testing authority is said to be funded and run by the voting manufacturers, and similarly the EAC follows the manufacturers strictures and not the needs of communities for honest, reliable and secure voting systems.
    In any case, clear, provable scientific testing of any voting machine system is essential for your agenda on election reform.
     The "paper trail" route turned out to be a diversion from any real verification.  As it was implemented by manufacturers it did not offer a method of verifiable recount, but rather a diversion for the usage for which it was intended.
     Scientific verification must especially include tabulation devices which have often produced inflated or deflated vote counts and other anomalies as well as voting devices.  Look at the case of  the 2004 election in Alaska where there was a huge discrepancy (over 100,000 votes) between results reported by precinct by precinct and those reported as state totals.  The State Election commission has refused the appeal of the Alaska Democratic Party to merely look at the raw data behind these discrepancies, and court action is ongoing.
    You cannot ignore the facts of widespread malfunction (conspiracy driven or not), and ongoing court actions in several states because the parameters of your point of view does not accommodate them, and then set out to write an agenda for election reform.
    Election reform minimally MUST INCLUDE correctly functioning equipment and verifiable results.
     If private manufacturers are not providing it, which local news reports and research documents clearly that they are not providing it at the present time, then we will need a publicly funded system, or a public-private system that everyone can agree upon.
    I think the concerns of computer scientists are important.  We will have no trust in voting systems without clear open, honest proof that they are functioning properly.
    http://www.votersunite.org/info/Dieboldi nthenews.pdf
    http://www.votersunite.org/news.asp
    www.votersunite.org/info/Sequoiainthenew s.pdf
    http://www.alaskademocrats.org/ht/d/sp/i /775784
    by syolles 2006-06-05 09:27AM | 0 recs
    Re: Moving Toward Unity and Progress On Election R

    Thanks Chris for your excellent admonition about making fair elections a priority.

    I was in Ohio to help with the 2004 election fraud lawsuit.  I was amazed at the creativity of the Republicans--I didn't think they had the imagination to come up with so many ways to steal the vote, but they did. The critical issue is how we prevent that from happening again, as Chris points out.

    The 2006  Maui County Dem Convention had some ideas how to make an election fair. In addition to encouraging voting by mail, we should require a paper trail and an automatic 3% hand recount. All elections should be conducted on Saturday and Sunday, with the polls all across the country opening and closing at the same time.  This would prevent western voters from being discouraged from voting by hearing the results from the East coast before they vote. Weekend voting would allow most people to go to the polls without the pressure of job or school kids to pick up getting in the way.
    Publicly funded exit polls should be conducted by non-partisan organizations.

    A weekend vote, coupled with a vote by mail system which Oregan is using successfully, would go along way to making voting easy for all.  With voting by mail, there is an automatic paper trail. Poll watchers could physically watch the opening and counting of the absentee ballots.

    We need uniform federal voting standards which over-ride state rules requiring drivers license ids and the like. Signature scanning devices could insure that the person who votes is the same person who was registered to vote.

    Unless we create fair and honest elections, nothing else we do to support candidates counts an iota.  This is the critical issue the Democratic Party must address this year. Unless we want Florida and Ohio to be stolen again in 2006 and 2008, we have to put fair elections at the top of the agenda.

    by Justina 2006-06-10 03:10PM | 0 recs
    Re: Moving Toward Unity and Progress On Election R
    The 2006 Maui County Dem Convention had some ideas how to make an election fair. In addition to encouraging voting by mail, we should require a paper trail and an automatic 3% hand recount. All elections should be conducted on Saturday and Sunday, with the polls all across the country opening and closing at the same time. This would prevent western voters from being discouraged from voting by hearing the results from the East coast before they vote. Weekend voting would allow most people to go to the polls without the pressure of job or school kids to pick up getting in the way. Publicly funded exit polls should be conducted by non-partisan organizations. anus amatrice asian ass baise beurette bikini bisexuel black blonde boob brune celebrite chaleur charme clitoris cochon couille enculer erotique erotisme etudiante exhibitionnis fellation sexe sex porno porn movie femme femme fesse fetiche fetichisme film film films films girl gratuite gratuite gros grosse hardcore homosexuel hot image latinas lesbian mature models movie mure nude nudiste orgasme orgie adulte amateur amateur anal asiatique bite coquin cul gay gay hard histoire jeune lesbienne mangaa noire nu penis photo photo pied pipe poitrine porn porno porno pornographie pussy rasee rousse sado salope sx sexuelle sexy sodomie suce suceasu teen tit toon transsexuelle video video videos videos voyeur webcam x x xxx sexe sex safari illusion voyage image humour blague blagues sportive ourisme cheat wallpaper yoga cinema pps ppt tennis touristique famille ecran de veille f1 rallye ecrans veille solution jeu code jeu programme television bebe lingerie icone tarot tatouage tatouages tunning jeu videos humour sport jeux serecette voiture zerotique jeu couple histoire video humour erotiques golf jeux jeu jeux football tv auto soluce tele horoscope massage spectacle horoscopes voiture recette recettes carte cartes fond humour humour fonds carte partition cartes diaporama voyage cartes astuce diaporamas truc familiale sexy vacances enfant cartes carte xxx gratui video x gratuit video sexe gratuit video sex gratuit video porno gratuit vide ogratuit traducteur gratuit tout gratui telecharger jeu gratuit telecharger gratuit telechargement logiciel gratuit telechargement gratuit telechargement film gratuit tarot gratuit sudoku gratuit sms gratuit sexe gratuit sexe amateur gratuit sex gratuit beurette sex gratuit porno gratuit photo sexe gratuit photo sex gratuit photo porno gratuit photo gay gratuit mp3 gratuit logiciel gratuit jeu voiture gratuit jeu video gratuit jeu pc gratuit jeu gratuit cadeux jeu gratuit jeu enfant gratuit jeu adulte gratuit horoscope gratuit hentai gratuit gros sein gratuit gay gratuit fond ecran gratuit film x gratuit film porno gratuit emoticone gratuit ecran veille gratuit cul gratuit clip gratuit chat gratuit antivirus gratuit chanson gratuit chansons gratuit divx gratuit emule gratuit kazaa gratuit logiciel gratuit logiciels gratuit messenger gratuit mp3 gratuit msn gratuit music gratuite musique gratuit musiques gratuites nero gratuit parole gratuit paroles gratuit telecharger gratuit telecharger gratuit telechager antivirus telecharger chanson telechager chansons telechager divx telecharger emule telecharger kazaa telechager logiciel telecharger logiciels telecharger messenger telecharger mp3 telecharger msn telecharger music telecharger musique telecharger nero telecharger parole telecharger paroles telecharger telecharger antivirus telecharger chanson telecharger chansons telecharger divx telecharger emule telecharger kazaa telecharger logiciel telecharger logiels telecharger messenger telecharger mp3 telecharger msn telecharger musique telecharger musiques telecharger nero telecharger parole telecharger paroles
    by kimi98 2006-09-25 04:51PM | 0 recs

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