Concerning Criticism Of Democrats

I have been pondering the question from Americablog that Matt posted yesterday: should we stop criticizing Democrats until after the 2006 elections? Here is my response:
  • For starters, whatever criticism we make of Democrats, whether before or after any election, it should never replicate Republican criticism of Democrats. That closes Peter's Triangle, and is an obvious no-no.

  • When it comes to criticizing voting habits, we were never criticizing all Democrats, or even most Democrats. As I have noted in the past, the vast majority of Democratic votes complicit with bad Republicans legislation come form a small segment of Democrats in Congress. In terms of voting, nearly all of the time we are criticizing that small segment, not the party as a whole. When possible, we run primaries against that small segment. The vast majority of Democrats in Congress are loyal progressives who vote quite well. Our ire is typically directed at a select few.

  • When it comes to criticizing the leadership, maybe we should restrain ourselves for a while. Certainly, as Howard Park said in the comments, we should definitely retrain ourselves form Labor Day until Election Day, since that is when the public will really be paying attention. Part of appearing as a credible alternative to Republicans is having credible alternative leadership. If Harry Reid, Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi look very weak in the eyes of the public, our chances of taking back congress and the states will be greatly diminished.

  • When it comes to criticizing electoral strategy, I fail to see why we should ever pull back. What would be the point of restricting our criticism of Democratic electoral strategy until after the 2006 elections? One of the major goals of the netroots is to try alter the course of the Democratic Party and progressive movement in terms of electoral strategy. We have already had some success on that front with the fifty-state strategy. I believe we can have even more success, but not if we stay quiet about strategic matters during the election season itself.
Over at Political Wire, I saw a poll today that crystallizes many of my thoughts on this matter, and points to a segment of the Democratic Party that I cannot imagine I will ever stop criticizing: The poll is of political insiders, both Democratic and Republican, and the second question in the poll really caught my eye:Would congressional Democrats be helped or hurt politically by compromising with Republicans on major legislation this year?

Democrats (67 votes)
Helped: 27%
Hurt 63%
Depends: 10% Most Democratic insiders take the viewpoint that is in obvious agreement with the consensus netroots opposition and electoral strategy. As one insider said in the poll: "Major compromises in the '02 midterms--read Iraq--cost us our credibility in '04. Our Democratic base is tired of compromise in D.C., and in state politics. The Republicans hold the power; let's hold them accountable for their bad policy." That passage could have been taken directly from any number of progressive blogs. Being complicit with Republicans on major pieces of legislation makes it extremely difficult for the country to take you seriously as an alternative when those pieces of legislation lead to their inevitably disastrous results. See the difficulties we had on Iraq in 2004, after we tried to Take it off the table" in 2002. If the netroots are childish, then so is the Democratic insider who gave this quote.

I am glad that this is the majority strategy within the party, and I take that as an encouraging sign that we are moving in the right direction. However, I will not hold my fire against Democrats who hold the opposite view. Take the view of this insider: "The only message the GOP has this year is that the Democrats have nothing to say or are standing in the way of results. If we take that away from them, they are naked. And a few successes in passing legislation in Congress ain't gonna change the overall sour public mood." This is an insider who has clearly learned nothing form our past failures. This is someone who suggests that we tailor our electoral strategy to be primarily reactive against Republican attacks. What else should we do because Republicans will accuse us of not doing it? The Democratic leadership knew in 2002 that Republicans would try to make the election about national security, so they decided to react by taking "national security off the table," and agree to whatever Bush wanted. That worked well. Even beyond that example, the notion that we should base our strategy around Republican attacks accepts the premise of those attacks to begin with, demonstrates that we have no strategy of our own, and suggests that we don't, in fact, actually stand for anything.

This is a minority position in the party, but there is no way I can ever hold my fire against such a position. I will always temper and tailor my criticisms of Democrats in the manners I stated at the start of this post, but the notion that Democrats need to vote with Republicans in Congress in order to win seats form Republicans on Election Day deserves to be harshly criticized year-round. As long as any Democrat in the party leadership, or any elected Democrat in a blue district argues that compromising with Republicans on major pieces of legislation will somehow help our electoral fortunes, they should not expect any love from the netroots.

Tags: Congressional Loyalty, Democrats, electoral strategy, netroots (all tags)

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16 Comments

Re: Concerning Criticism Of Democrats

I do wish this would happen from the leadership, and I don't consider it nattering nabob of negativism speech, nor conspiracy theory, nor pessimism.  We need to invest $$$$ into setting up legal challenges to manifest voting problems before the vote.  If you don't think this could be a problem in, oh, say, Ohio, then look at the mess from the primary the other day.  I have told the Ohio dem party that I won't give $$$ until I see something put in place.  

It is pragmatic and important.

by calscientist 2006-05-05 10:25AM | 0 recs
Re: Concerning Criticism Of Democrats

This is something I agree with wholeheartedly.  If you see a manifest problem, something the party or a segment of the party can do something about, then you should hold their feet to the fire.  You should tell them it's important to correct it.  You should tell them there is something systemic that they have the power to correct and are not.

This is constructive criticism because there's an easy road for them to follow in correcting it.  There's something they can do about your concern.

And we should criticize Dems we disagree with on the issues, but we shouldn't resort to calling them names because of it.  We shouldn't resort to the "politics of personal destruction" (cringes) with fellow Dems.  Tell them why they're wrong.  Implore them to reconsider.  But don't call them names.  That does absolutely nothing to help the party or our goals.

by jhupp 2006-05-05 11:37AM | 0 recs
Re: Concerning Criticism Of Democrats

I didn't get your other post, and I get this one even less. So what's changed other than asking the question because basically what you outline is mostly what I have been reading on a lot of blogs. Admittedly, I don't read them all, but the points you outlined are what has been occuring for the most part anyway.

by bruh21 2006-05-05 10:35AM | 0 recs
Re: Concerning Criticism Of Democrats

I think criticism of Dems is fine if it isn't a personal attack, doesn't replicate a typical Rep attack, and its before Labor Day.  Labor Day, the traditional start to the "political season" or when non-political junkies (also known as normal people) start to follow politics more closely, is when all intraparty attacks should stop.

Also, attacking a Dem on the left is not a bad thing.  For one, a Republican in this era can't use that flank ("how dare my opponent be opposed to gay marriage. . .er, wait"), and it makes the Dem seem more moderate to independents.  It also has the added benefit of pulling Dems to the left, because no one likes being attacked.

The Republicans, I think, do an excellent job of this.  All are held to a standard or they catch hell, but only BEFORE the primary.  Occasionally, this leads to bad results (Simon beats Riordan in 2002), but for the most part, it allowed Rep office holders to have it both ways.  Dubya is a master of this.

by Jim Treglio 2006-05-05 10:38AM | 0 recs
Re: Concerning Criticism Of Democrats
We need to save the criticism ONLY for times when there is an ethical or legal problem...
Remember, we ARE the big tent party and must allow other Dems to maintain their own beliefs and stances.  We should never become automotons like the GOP.
by ucladave 2006-05-05 10:45AM | 0 recs
Re: Concerning Criticism Of Democrats

I don't necessarily agree with this.  I DO agree that we should temper our criticism in certain ways.  I DO agree that diversity of opinion within our party is acceptable (and in many ways just plain good).  We ARE the big tent party.  We DO represent a much broader coalition than the Republicans do.  I do not agree, though, that this exempts all from criticism.

It's not the disagreement we should criticize; it's the way in which that disagreement is voiced.  If a Democrat goes out of his way to shield the president from attacks by our party's candidates and leaders, he is 100% in the wrong.  If a Democrat who is principally opposed to a particular part of the Democratic platform wishes to oppose it, that is fine.  But he or she should not stand in the way of the general betterment of the party by playing cheerleader for a Republican administration.

Let me rephrase the first sentence of the last paragraph: it's okay to criticize disagreements within the party, so long as the criticisms are constructive.  It should be about WHY the other person is wrong, not "shame on you."  But when a Democrat stands between Democrats and victory, that deserves much harsher, much more directed criticism.

There is a reason Joe Lieberman is taking such a beating on the war, a reason we have a serious primary challenge to him while we don't have such a challenger for other Democrats who hold the same position: they're not calling out their own party members for being unpatriotic.

It's not in disagreeing that he has sinned; it's in using it as platform to publicly shout down his own party.  We didn't hate Zell Miller because he was a conservative Southern Democrat.  We hated him because he used his disagreements to shout down his own party, because he caucused with the Republicans, all while continuing to claim the right to put (D) next to his name.

by jhupp 2006-05-05 11:19AM | 0 recs
Re: Concerning Criticism Of Democrats

You said...

If a Democrat goes out of his way to shield the president from attacks by our party's candidates and leaders, he is 100% in the wrong.

I agree with you on this.  I wasn't thinking about a member of our party shielding the president.  Shielding this president from criticism by us is NEVER ACCEPTABLE.  
I am a liberal but would rather have people with a "D" after their names than an "R."
However, you are correct that the "Jomentums" of congress need to be chastised, or better yet, beaten in the primaries.

by ucladave 2006-05-05 12:08PM | 0 recs
Elections may be the best possible time

To a degree, I do share the sentiment that criticism may hurt Democrats in the polls, which ultimately, hurts the goals of we who desire change.

However, that same point can be used to argue that this is the best time to criticize.  At any other time, Democrats can safely ignore any criticism they receive from the grass/netroots, because there are no consequences.  When election time comes around, ignoring your base becomes much riskier in case they decide to actually hold you accountable for what you do.  Having your job on the line can be quite motivating.

Do you see the theocratic right giving the Republicans a pass right now because they're facing a tough election in November?  No, they're pissed that they haven't done enough with their Christianist agenda.  Look how Republicans in congress are scrambling to fall in line and get to work on their social wedge issues.

Of course, the difference is that Republicans have the majority right now, and the presidency.  That leaves Democrats somewhat powerless when it comes to answering a lot of criticisms.  If Democrats do actually regain the majority sometime in the future, I suspect we'll be pleasantly surprised and left with quite a lot less to be critical of.

by fwiffo 2006-05-05 10:49AM | 0 recs
Re: Concerning Criticism Of Democrats

I need to agree with this post, it really broke down every section of criticism well.  I certainly agree that Democrats shouldn't just agree with Republicans to "take it off the table."  This just blurs the lines between the parties, and discourages turnout of independent voters.  I like the direction we're going, and by keeping on this path, the Democrats won't have too much to be criticized for.

by John Nicosia 2006-05-05 11:02AM | 0 recs
Re: Concerning Criticism Of Democrats

Good post.  But remember, it's fair to replicate Republican criticisms of Hillary, because the Republicans are just telling the truth about her.

by Steve M 2006-05-05 11:23AM | 0 recs
Re: Concerning Criticism Of Democrats

I think this is an excellent way to approach things.  I like to think of it as positive energy v negative energy.  

Criticism is good when it is productive.  A lot of the discussion and criticism about past electoral strategy and policy ideas has been really good for the party.  I have found it enjoyable and eye opening.  I don't think carping on long past issues or personally denegrating leadership or certain members does us any good.

by John Mills 2006-05-05 11:48AM | 0 recs
Constructive criticism all year, please!

The idea that we should join the Three Wise Monkeys from Labor Day to Election Day when it comes to Dem MCs is nauseating.

No one has adduced any evidence that anything that we humble denizens of the blog might write could affect the result one iota.

Anyone suggesting a period of self-censorship should at least show some evidence, don't you think?

(We are supposed to be the reality-based element in US politics, after all!)

My guess is that there isn't any. And that the purpose of this exercise has nothing to do with risks to a Dem win in November, and everything to do with Dem alphabet soup seeking to impose some control over us free spirits in the lefty sphere.

What if Mollohan is indicted at the beginning of October, say? Do we do like our righty counterparts would do, and ignore it?

Of course, if that's the way Chris and the guys want the blog to be run, that's their right.

Just so long as we're clear.

by skeptic06 2006-05-05 01:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Constructive criticism all year, please!

Crystal.

by redstar67 2006-05-06 03:43AM | 0 recs
Leadership

I agree, especially about the leadership comment. It's the only place I think we should pull back from what we've already been doing. Pelosi has gotten a lot of flack recently and she's obviously made some attempt at a) courting the blogosphere, and b) putting on a show for the cameras.

Both of these are things we've been complaining that she hasn't done. Next time we want to criticize her for her failures to do these things, we should try going about it in another way: "Remember that time you told off the administration for being two oil-men and giving us $3 gas? That was great; pick another issue and do it again!"

I think this can be just as effective a way of pushing our leaders in the right direction without taking up an adversarial role.

by msnook 2006-05-05 03:12PM | 0 recs
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This is similar to the "you can't criticise the president during a time of war" argument and just as bogus.  Then the same assholes get reelected and nothing changes.

by steve expat 2006-05-05 03:27PM | 0 recs
Re: Concerning Criticism Of Democrats

We can quit criticizing the Democratic Party, when the level of Rhetoric (or campaign strategies or whatever passes for a Democratic message) reaches a level above merely waiting for the GOPers to self destruct.  Just why, oh why, can't they achieve something as simple as pinning the corruption problems in DC and elsewhere on the GOP instead of the 50-50 load that seems to occupy the public's mind? Where are the really pointed questions in the hearings? When do the Democrats quit doing things like essentially grabbing their ankles over the Alitos of our world? In other words, the best defense is a good offense.  The criticism is a cattle prod, not a knife.

by Retired Catholic 2006-05-05 06:59PM | 0 recs

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