Once Again, Let's All Repeat That Dean Was Elected

Rahm Emanuel cursed out Dean yesterday for inadequate DNC spending on his priorities, and he's tracking the Presidential candidates to see how helpful they are for DCCC fundraising.  The leaders are Kerry, Clark, and Gore (though Emanuel has come out publicly for Hillary Clinton).  This is in addition to the point system Emanuel has implemented for House members.  This is basically what Tom Delay did to cement control and discipline in the Republican caucus, liberally sprinkle candidates with money and punish those who can't or won't raise it.  I think it's going to be harder to implement this system of control on the Democratic side, but I don't see many other attempts to build a political machine that can wield power.

My guess is that Emanuel's verbal attack on Dean is a mixture of anger and CYA in case the Democrats don't take the House.  There's a lot of self-promotion going on with his tough image, and he's a bully.  I know credible people who have been thrown out of his office for not hewing to his ideological brew.  I've also heard that his DCCC doesn't listen particularly well to local leaders, claims credit for pretty much everything, and tends to throw its weight around.  The big single issue groups operating out of DC often look to the DCCC endorsement to see whether they should come in on a race (see Duckworth, Tammy).

At the same time, if your perspective is simply that of a partisan, I kind of have to ask, so what?  Emanuel is an effective fundraiser and competent at the mechanics of elections.  He's a smart operator in the House, and it's clear that House Democrats desperately need a system for wielding power and a set of incentives/disincentives for cooperating with each other and acting as partisans.

Still, this anger is silly.  Emanuel has to know that Dean was elected DNC Chair on a promise to not spend money on behalf of national committees like the DCCC.  He also has to know that he could have intervened during the DNC Chair race, but he did not.  He's probably kicking himself for allowing Dean in there.  

I worked on that race against Dean, but it's very much a good thing Dean is following through on his promises to state parties.  I'm not a fan of Dean's recent pandering (neither is Taylor Marshor John Aravosis) and his lie about the Democratic Party platform, but promises should be kept.  And Dean won that race fair and square on a platform of spending money in the states and not on a cycle basis, so bitching now about how he spends the DNC's money is sour grapes.

Tags: DNC, gay rights, Howard Dean, Noam Scheiber, Pat Robertson, TNR (all tags)

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Re: Once Again, Let's All Repeat That Dean Was Ele

My problem is that, yet again, intraparty squabbles end up on the front pages of major newspapers -- and all over cable news.

The Republicans, lock-step marchers that they are, can keep their differences under wraps. I'm glad that Democrats aren't meek sheep -- but, dammit, I'm so tired of cringing over Democratic infighting.

by S1 2006-05-11 07:23AM | 0 recs
Re: Once Again, Let's All Repeat That Dean Was Ele

That was a page one story, right underneath the story "Bush, GOP Congress Losing Core Supporters."  

And in case anyone cares, this is from the 2004 Democratic National Platform, which Howard cited in the CBN interview:

We support full inclusion of gay and lesbian families in the life of our nation and seek equal responsibilities, benefits, and protections for these families. In our country, marriage has been defined at the state level for 200 years, and we believe it should continue to be defined there. We repudiate President Bush's divisive effort to politicize the Constitution by pursuing a "Federal Marriage Amendment." Our goal is to bring Americans together, not drive them apart.

How many states again have amended (or are in the process of doing so) to define marriage as between a man and a woman?  Here's a list from the Human Rights Campaign.

Howard may not have been 100% on the money but he didn't sound too far off.

by KimPossible 2006-05-11 07:46AM | 0 recs
Re: Once Again, Let's All Repeat That Dean Was Ele

Dean lied for effect.  It's not a big lie, but it's a lie.  

by Matt Stoller 2006-05-11 08:55AM | 0 recs
Re: Once Again, Let's All Repeat That Dean Was Ele

Stop. It.  I blew a hole in your assertion that Dean lied.  That talking point isn't in play anymore.

Bush lies.  Karl Rove lies.  You can point to a documented pattern of deception. I can't even put Dean in the same neighborhood as those two.

by KimPossible 2006-05-11 09:48AM | 0 recs
Re: Once Again, Let's All Repeat That Dean Was Ele

I find it easier to believe that he simply didn't have the wording of the 2004 platform on the tip of his tongue.

Dean made a false statement.  What is your evidence that it was intentionally false?

by Steve M 2006-05-11 11:49AM | 0 recs
Re: Once Again, Let's All Repeat That Dean Was Ele

Exactly right.  How much information can you keep in your head before you start screwing up?

by KimPossible 2006-05-11 11:53AM | 0 recs
Two Words:

Tom Tunney

Rahm's mean-spirited tactics and insider ways have a limited shelf-life.  If they don't produce results in November, there's really no reason for the people of Chicago's 5th District to keep him around.  He's not seen as a local boy anyway.

If he continues to bad mouth populist politics, I'll work with other Chitown Deaniacs to lobby Tunney to run against Rahm.
Tunney would kick his ass.

by ChgoSteve 2006-05-11 08:12AM | 0 recs
Re: Two Words:

That's an interesting idea.  Tunney certainly seems to be popular around the area.  I do wonder what would happen in a race between these two...it would be a bloodbath, maybe mudbath is a better term.  The Clintonista's would give their all against Tunney to protect their boy Rahm; what side do you think Daley would be on?  The best case for Tunney would be for Daley to stay out of it, because I don't see him going against the Clintons.

I remember when Tunney was elected the first time; it seemed to be a very grassroots thing.  Do you think he would be ready for the primetime gutter fighting neccessary to beat the big boys from DC?

by cbfatih 2006-05-11 09:48AM | 0 recs
Re: Two Words:

I do think Daley would stay out of it.  After all, Daley appointed Tunney to the city council.  And will Daley even be around in 2008?  I have doubts.  And, from what I hear, the Clintonistas will have bigger matters on their hands that year.

Tunney's first election victory was pretty impressive.  He got 60% of the vote in a five way primary.  He has the loyalty of the 44th Ward organization, the gay community and the business community.  That's a pretty potent combination.

by ChgoSteve 2006-05-11 10:18AM | 0 recs
Re: Once Again, Let's All Repeat That Dean Was Ele

we now have 4 permanent Dem field ops here in Oregon, thanks entirely to Howard Dean.  so does every other state.  this means we have a permanent resource to back up the somewhat transient nature of party political activity.  how can this hurt any race for Congress?  oh, yea, it takes away money Emmanuel & Schumer want to use to be the bigshots.  screw 'em.  they've been useless in Congress, every bit as powerful as Daschle and his ilk.  if they can't see that the future of the party is at the 'roots, then they need to leave DC, get a job doing retail and learn about the real world.

by t a barnhart 2006-05-11 08:20AM | 0 recs
Re: Once Again, Let's All Repeat That Dean Was Ele

Thank God the DC Democrats failed to annoit Tim Roemer as DNC Chair.

To the degree this is a CYA by Emanuel, it is a joke. Congressional gains won't be as big as they could be because Emanuel is failing to inspire people and has turned people off by pushing DLC deadweight in the primaries.

I'm glad Dean is holding his ground. Compromising because this is the "most important election ever" is the crap that got us where we are. The fact that Emanuel hasn't figured this out calls into question his strategic value.

The most important things going on seem to be happening in spite of Emanuel.

by Bob Brigham 2006-05-11 08:21AM | 0 recs
What to do about the bi-monthly anti-Dean story

Once again, the every other month "Dean is a problem" story shows up. Once again, I made a  contribution to the DNC.

by history prof 2006-05-11 08:34AM | 0 recs
Re: What to do about the bi-monthly anti-Dean stor

Thanks for the reminder!

by KimPossible 2006-05-11 09:49AM | 0 recs
What Is With All the Fighting?

I am perplexed by the fighting that is going on around the DNC. The DNC has been jabbing at gays and lesbians. The DNC is fighting with the DCCC. While Gov. Dean is doing a good thing getting staff into the states, part of his job is also to keep the various parts Democratic family from beating up on each other.  And another thing - why are the state parties getting blamed for all the money being spent? The way I read that Post story, it sounds to me like an awful lot of money is being spent on consultants; not just the usual consultants, but the ones who make money off of direct mail and fundraising. The money going to the state parties seems like peanuts compared to the overall spending.

by budwina 2006-05-11 08:39AM | 0 recs
Re: What Is With All the Fighting?

I'm not sure if the DNC is doing a good job, but the jabbing is coming from the other party committees mad that Dean has different priorities.  What I'm constantly trying to point out is that there was a process for setting these priorities, and the people complaining now ignored that process because they thought it was a joke.  And now they are mad, which is just childish.

by Matt Stoller 2006-05-11 08:57AM | 0 recs
Re: What Is With All the Fighting?

Rham pitched a fit and then blabbed about it to the Washington Post? Riight.

This story is sourced out of the DNC, they want to make Rham look childish.

by souvarine 2006-05-11 10:05AM | 0 recs
Durable link for 'Times' story...

...is this.

by skeptic06 2006-05-11 08:48AM | 0 recs
Re: Durable link for 'Times' story...

thanks

by Matt Stoller 2006-05-11 08:53AM | 0 recs
Re: Once Again, Let's All Repeat That Dean Was Ele

>>Rahm's mean-spirited tactics and insider ways have a limited shelf-life.  If they don't produce results in November, there's really no reason for the people of Chicago's 5th District to keep him around.  He's not seen as a local boy anyway.

>>If he continues to bad mouth populist politics, I'll work with other Chitown Deaniacs to lobby Tunney to run against Rahm.
Tunney would kick his ass.

Um, jeez, how do I say this politely?  One fellow Chicagoan to another -- you're a fucking idiot.  I welcome all Deaniacs to run in competitive primaries against Democrats so that you can be beaten like Billy Batts and shown, once again, that you don't represent the majority of our party.  Rahm is doing a great job and if you can't see that, then why don't you just join the fucking Greens and leave the party to people intereted in winning.

by Dan Conley 2006-05-11 09:02AM | 0 recs
Re: Once Again, Let's All Repeat That Dean Was Ele

wake up!  If the elected democrats don't shape up, you might very well see a wave of primary challenges.  Eventually, that new wave is going to win aginst the old school types.  Just look to the bible thumping Republican party for evidence that grassroots can change the ideology of political parties.  

I don't really know what Rahm does in his DCCC chairman's position, so I can't say if he is doing a good job or not.  I do know that he should stop whining.  Of course the DNC is going to be in this election.  Spending some money on the future is a smart move.  What happens if we listen to him, spend all our money in his targetted areas and lose anyway?  That's basically what happened for the last decade, so it is not very farfetched to think it can happen again.  Spending money in places Rahm's crowd haven't made competitive with their style of machine work is called not putting all your eggs in one basket.

And what exactly is the "historic opportunity" that Rahm talks about in the article?  Possibly gaining a slim majority in one or both houses of congress?  How is that historic?  

A historic opportunity would be to create a national party, like the Republican Party has.  Karl Rove talks about creating a Republican majority that will last for a generation, and Rahm thinks that a majority of a couple seats is historic?  Please.  

I'd like the party to be run by people interested in the kind of "historic" that means winning elections on a national scale.  That would be a party of party of "people interested in winning".   That's what Dean is trying to do, (in spite of Rahm's crowd sitting on their hands hoping the R's implode). Rahm's party sounds like one that is interested in making him chair of some committee.

And finally, one Chicagoan to another, Tunney could definately pose a serious challenge to Rahm.  I don't think it has as much to do with the "majority of the party" that you claim to be part of as it has to do with what Mayor Daley thinks.  If Daley is ok with Rahm being challenged, then look out old school.

by cbfatih 2006-05-11 10:32AM | 0 recs
Sorry Guys This About 2008

Much as I agree that "a promise is a promise" the only reason this is getting elevated to anything more than noise in the blogosphere is that it ties directly to 2008.

Rahm wants the DNC to be poised to help Hillary the most, and let's face it, the girl looks at Bubba's maps from 1992 and 1996 and thinks: "that's the strategy I need."

Dean's idea of a 50 state startegy isn't the issue per se...it's that it's music to the ears of Mark Warner and also...hyuck hyuck Russ Feingold.

The other thing is this: while odds are a bit long that the Dems retake the Senate, and still pretty soft that we can win the House....right now nearly every Republican governor is fighting for his or her life. If that's the major victory for the Party in November....that we have 40 Dems governors NOT a Democratic Congress who do you think will get all the face time and credit: DEAN.

Rahm-haters rejoice....apparenly the RNC is moving into Chicago with "significant expenditures". So while the rest of the nation roils with uncertain voter opinion....the man will be fighting for his own life come fall by the RNC laying siege to many of the candidates he hand-picked.

by risenmessiah 2006-05-11 02:45PM | 0 recs

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