National Journal on the 50th CD & your predictions

An interesting take on the election today:

The CA 50 special falls two days after San Diego's largest-ever demonstration for immigrant rights. The issue will certainly be on voters' minds today as they choose ex-Rep. Duke Cunningham's (R) successor. The leading GOP contenders have espoused hard-line views on the subject. But in a low-turnout election, could the harsh rhetoric backfire?

Granted, the prevailing sentiment in the border-area district is for increased crackdowns on illegal immigration. But it's also one of the top 85 Latino CDs in the country; 12% of registered voters there are Latino. Francine Busby (D) and the DCCC have poured in big sums of money early, much of it for targeted GOTV efforts. So far, the CW assumed immigration hawks would be the most motivated voters. But could Latinos also comprise a disproportionate part of the vote, and help put Busby over 50%?

Also, the latest Datamar tracking poll shows Busby today at 41 percent, tracking up from 40 last week and 36 the week before.


Anyway, what percentage is Busby going to get today?

Tags: Busby, CA 50th CD (all tags)

Comments

43 Comments

Datamar

Datamar, is way oversampling Republicans, the reason is they are using a high voter propensity screen, which requires a vote in 2002 Governor's Race primary, Which had an extremely well contested Republican Race and no or almost no Democratic Race. When you look at from that Stand point. Busby is much closer to 47 she has in Survery USA than the Datamar.Without that cavet, it deflates hope for no fair purpose.

by Democraticavenger 2006-04-11 04:17PM | 0 recs
Re: National Journal on the 50th CD

If I was betting money I'd say 46.

But hoping for 50!

Prove me wrong cali people and I'll gladly eat my words.

by dantheman 2006-04-11 04:25PM | 0 recs
Re: National Journal on the 50th CD

Count me in for 46 too.

by juls 2006-04-11 05:54PM | 0 recs
50th CD

48.25%

by illinois062006 2006-04-11 04:25PM | 0 recs
Re: 50th CD

Intellectually, I agree with Illinios but 50 is painfully close.

by Democraticavenger 2006-04-11 04:30PM | 0 recs
Re: National Journal on the 50th CD & your

47.8%

The Datamar polling is pretty bad, but I think that anything below a 45% is kind of a loss for us. Anything above 45% and we'll have a great chance in June.

If SUSA pins Busby's numbers at 47%, with 6% undecided, in addition to high Democratic turnout, we could win this thing right here and now.

by KainIIIC 2006-04-11 04:41PM | 0 recs
I'll go with 47.5, Kain

But, the ballot looks fucked with though:

Where the fuck is the spacing between candidates.

Smells of butterfly ballot all the way.

We should make some serious ruckus about this, whether Francine does worse than expected or not. We need to keep in mind that the GOP SOS appointee in CA is up to no good (including his efforts to recertify Diebold after it was thrown out), and may well be working with Rove to try and put a few monkey wrenches in the democratic dominance in CA.

by NeuvoLiberal 2006-04-11 05:40PM | 0 recs
looks fine to me.

what do you see that's wrong with it?  The only thing I don't like about it is the fact that Francine is 13th in a list of 18.  I think the only fair way to make ballots is to rotate the placement of names.

by Fran for Dean 2006-04-11 05:46PM | 0 recs
it just looks damn hard to read to me.

couldn't they have at least used the entire piece of paper?

by johnny longtorso 2006-04-11 05:50PM | 0 recs
Re: looks fine to me.

It's positively hard to locate Busby's name on the ballot. We need to remember that not all voters will bring 20/20 vision to the voting booths.

What the ballot badly needed was spacing between the candidate stanzas.

by NeuvoLiberal 2006-04-11 05:59PM | 0 recs
Re: looks fine to me.

ahh I see.  Yea, I agree that it is difficult to read.  A little white space would have gone a long way.  The "butterfly" comment just made me think there was some mis-alignment trickery going on.  While it is certainly difficult to read, I think the difficulty is not biased towards any one candidate, except Bill Morrow since his name and his bubble are both clearly first.

by Fran for Dean 2006-04-11 06:16PM | 0 recs
agree

Morrow sticks out, but the rest are bunched up. will be interesting to see how the #s for morrow and busby differ from pre-election polling. The possibility that this could have been a little ploy to keep busby from getting outright majority shouldn't be ruled out; however, one should compare this ballot to previous ballots to make any judgement.

by NeuvoLiberal 2006-04-11 06:28PM | 0 recs
Re: National Journal on the 50th CD & your pre

49.5%

I think Datamar's sampling is really really heavily (R) tilted.  Also, as you mentioned, she improved a bit since the last one.  Also, the last SUSA poll had her at 47%, which is really good.  Combine that with the good partisan early voter numbers, and a nationalized phonebank effort from MoveOn, and I think Busby has a chance.

by Fran for Dean 2006-04-11 04:46PM | 0 recs
Re: National Journal on the 50th CD
Survey Usa
Five Precent of the electorate  just isn't there.
21 of independent say they are voting for an other candidate, but none of those candidate exist or have a pulse. 2% are still undecided. This five percent is a total wild card. It also looks like there  sample under values Hispanics and Women. In almost no state do Men represent a greater percentage of the electorate then women but they do in the survey USA poll  with 51%, Busby is clocking in with 53% from Women. Bottomline, this thing is even closer 50 than that 47, would everyone stop repeating the 41% from Datamar it just makes no sense.
by Democraticavenger 2006-04-11 04:52PM | 0 recs
It would make me very angry if Chris Young

Screws us in this race.

by Liberal 2006-04-11 04:53PM | 0 recs
Re: predictions

I'm going to go with 52%. Someone's got to play the part of the sunny, though possibly insane optimist.

by Scott Shields 2006-04-11 04:53PM | 0 recs
Re: predictions

Not insane. 52 would not be a shock.

by Democraticavenger 2006-04-11 04:54PM | 0 recs
Re: predictions

50.1% would be a nice FU to the Republicans, although I'm sure they'd demand a recount.

by johnny longtorso 2006-04-11 05:07PM | 0 recs
prediction

I'm going to guess 48% for Busby.

warning, amateur poll analysis: it's notable that between the two SUSA polls, Bilbray's support among independents has shriveled up to a whopping 4%. Busby is going to have to carry about 60% of independents in the general to win. it looks like Bilbray may be anathema to independents, so that's who I'm hoping will get second place.

by johnny longtorso 2006-04-11 04:56PM | 0 recs
Big assumption about Hispanics here

Granted, the prevailing sentiment in the border-area district is for increased crackdowns on illegal immigration. But it's also one of the top 85 Latino CDs in the country; 12% of registered voters there are Latino.

I wouldn't assume that all Hispanics are supporters of illegal immigration.

The Democracy Corps Hispanics survey (PDF) last year had 34% saying they would discourage new immigration (legal or illegal not specified); and 41% said that illegal immigration hurts more than helps the US (Q76 and 77).

by skeptic06 2006-04-11 05:12PM | 0 recs
prediction

To be pollyannish I'll say 56%. However I think it's going to be closer to 46-48%.

Also could the next primary please be on the east coast so I can get to bed at a somewhat reasonable hour? If their is a run-off head there...
http://www.actblue.com/page/netrootscand idates

by Joshua Sperati 2006-04-11 05:14PM | 0 recs
My guess

is 46%, though 50.0001% is not impossible.

by AnthonySF 2006-04-11 05:16PM | 0 recs
prediction

Although it led to his downfall, Billy Mumphrey was a cockeyed optimist. I'm with Billy and I say 50.9%

by joeesha 2006-04-11 05:21PM | 0 recs
50th predictions

Based on my own experience in 2005 CA-48 Special and the conversations I've had with her manager;

A. They've learned from 48 and had a helluva push on absentee ballots

B. They've played a strong ground game every...repeat...every day.

C. They've had massive volunteer turnout for days...maybe weeks

D. They've done a simply unparelled job fundraising/

E. The Republican are running attack ads against each other in the last 24 hours.

F. The news continues to disgust everyone.

I've got my fingers crossed for a win. Except for the John Birch types...and they are a dying breed here...even in OC...everyone disgusted with Washington. W has over a 62% disapproval rating and Congress a 66% disapproval rating.

I'll bet on the charismatic lady who ran on a platform of reform for everyone in Congress! She's worked three years for this day. Let's keep the fingers crossed and the Republican's at each others throats!

Low turnout works to Busby's favor except for the absentee vote....that we'll have to see.

by BigDog 2006-04-11 05:22PM | 0 recs
Prediction

47%

by gatordemocrat 2006-04-11 05:24PM | 0 recs
Your predictions

I say 45%.  It's a Republican District and there are LOTS of candidates.

Maybe when the race reduces to only two candidates.

by guachi 2006-04-11 05:26PM | 0 recs
Re: National Journal on the 50th CD

I hate to sound cynical. It might have something to do with the mood I'm in today.

My prediction:

Busby- 43%
Young (the other, fringe Democrat)- 6-8%

(http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/a rchives/2006/04/ca_50_the_ballo_1.html)

Sorry, but today I'm having trouble finding faith in the average voter. But I hope I'm proven wrong, and the ballot doesn't spoil things.

by Fitzy 2006-04-11 05:26PM | 0 recs
Re: National Journal on the 50th CD + prediction

AnthonySF knows this race as well as anyone I've been reading and my instinct is to go with his prediction (46%) however, the immigration storm is a wildcard that could impact the race dramatically IF the people paying attention bother to vote. I think Democrats will and I think Busby's reasonable position on this issue is going to put her over the top tonight. I'll stake out 51%

by DownWithTyranny 2006-04-11 05:29PM | 0 recs
meanwhile, in Texas...

Barbara Ann Radnofsky is winning the primary runoff 60-40, with half the precincts in.

by johnny longtorso 2006-04-11 05:52PM | 0 recs
45%

It will be a moral victory.  The real wild card here in Escondido and San Marcos is the Hispanic vote. They are a huge portion of the population. If they come out and Francine wins some of our neighbors (Darryl Issa) will have had a really bad night.

by surfk9 2006-04-11 05:56PM | 0 recs
Ballot info

The National Journal did not necessarily have it right.

In the CA-48th Special, The Registrar drew names and set the order. Then, however, the order was changed every X precinct to avoid placement advantage/disadvantge.

I don't know if this is true in San Diego County. We in the CA-48th Campaign were as suprized as anyone when we figured it out on election day.

The Ballot may not play that big a factor...but it's a different county. Not sure.

I didn't know that we didn't get the other Dem out of the race prior to the Special Election filing. I assume he's not actively campaigning. Disappointing.

by BigDog 2006-04-11 05:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Ballot info

The other D is a woman, Chris Young, I believe her name is.

by juls 2006-04-11 06:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Ballot info/Chris Young

She satisfied her ego and sapped away 1640 votes from Francine who actually earned them.

At least Ms. Young can now, like so many others, have on her CV 'Congressional Candidate CA-50 2006'.

What a waste.

The untabulated 10K Ballots could actually have an impact according to the Registrar. But that assumes they vote in a block. It's a nice fantasy.

by BigDog 2006-04-12 06:41PM | 0 recs
Ballot info

The National Journal did not necessarily have it right.

In the CA-48th Special, The Registrar drew names and set the order. Then, however, the order was changed every X precinct to avoid placement advantage/disadvantge.

I don't know if this is true in San Diego County. We in the CA-48th Campaign were as suprized as anyone when we figured it out on election day.

The Ballot may not play that big a factor...but it's a different county. Not sure.

I didn't know that we didn't get the other Dem out of the race prior to the Special Election filing. I assume he's not actively campaigning. Disappointing.

by BigDog 2006-04-11 06:00PM | 0 recs
48.5%

high enough to claim big MO, but not enough to get over the hump.

by wu ming 2006-04-11 06:02PM | 0 recs
Re: National Journal on the 50th CD

44.9%

I hope you all are laughing at me by the end of the night, though.

by HellofaSandwich 2006-04-11 06:19PM | 0 recs
What happens after the election?

I've never seen any discussion of just what happens after this election.

The election is to pick someone to fill the remainder of Cunningham's term.  If today's election doesn't produce a winner, the highest candidate from each party (Busby and some Republican) go to a runoff on June 6, right?

So what happens with the regular 2006 election for that seat?  Normally (if Cunningham hadn't resigned), we'd be having a primary election for that seat on June 6.  Are we going to have a Busby/whoever runoff simultaneously with the regular primary?  Or is there going to be yet another special election to act as a primary, followed by the regular election in November?

Have they even thought about this?

by Keith Thompson 2006-04-11 06:20PM | 0 recs
Re: What happens after the election?

If no one wins a majority today then there will be two elections on June 6. The runoff between Busby and the top Rep from today as well as the primary for November. So if Bilbray say loses by a point or so today to Roach and wants to try again he can run in the June primary against him. So technically a Republican like Roach could simoultaneously beat Busby on June 6 winning a term that lasts through the end of 2006 AND lose his primary for November to another Republican like Bilbray. Not a likely outcome but possible.

by Bothwell 2006-04-11 06:40PM | 0 recs
Re: What happens after the election?
Well, I'm sure that won't be at all confusing to anybody!

Thanks for the information. Do you have a reference for this?

by Keith Thompson 2006-04-11 07:07PM | 0 recs
Voting this afternoon

My wife and I both voted this afternoon in Rancho Penasquitos (yes, we both voted for Busby).  When I signed in, mine was the only signature on that page of the signup sheet; the rest of the page was blank (implying either a very low turnout, or a lot of people planning to vote in the evening).

I was a bit shocked when I saw a Diebold touchscreen machine in the polling place.  It turns out it's being used for disabled voters; we used the same hand-marked optical-scan paper ballots we used in the last election.  But one of the volunteers told us that they're using the optical-scan ballots only for this election and the next one, and switching to touchscreen machines starting in (I think) November.

If this is true, we're going to file for permanent absentee ballots, and hand-deliver them to the polling place on election day.  I don't know why the Secretary of State approved those infernal machines.

by Keith Thompson 2006-04-11 06:27PM | 0 recs
Official results site (?)
The Registrar of Voters site has an Election Results link. It's all zeros so far. (It doesn't display in Opera, but it does show up in Firefox; I haven't tried other browsers.)
by Keith Thompson 2006-04-11 06:35PM | 0 recs
Re: National Journal on the 50th CD

I was polled by Datamar. Busby's name was the last one asked. If they didn't rotate names, their results are even more skewed than the validity ruining population from which the sample was drawn. Regardless, we'll all know soon the results of the counting (notice I didn't say, "of the voting"?

by David Sternfeld 2006-04-11 07:27PM | 0 recs
moveon pac calls to Spanish speakers

The moveon pac "call from all over" system gave instructions not to do the script if the person answering spoke Spanish, with nothing said about Spanish speaking volunteers, which I thought was very wrong-headed.

by texasobserver 2006-04-11 09:01PM | 0 recs

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