Does Rahm's Foley Lie Matter?

So surprise surprise, it turns out that Rahm Emanuel was lying about whether he knew anything about the Foley emails or IMs when he went on ABC's This Week at the height of the scandal.  Sorry to move to come late to the party in terms of commenting on what I think might turn out to be a somewhat significant story.  I don't like what Rahm did here.  I don't think he had to do it, and I think he was wrong to do it.  I'm not naive, of course.  In politics you have to accept a certain level of cynicism in terms of the political operatives that run campaigns and the party.  Dirty campaigning is an art, and it's more often than not the case that your side has to deal with people that are unseemly or lack integrity.

I just can't though let Congressman Emanuel's behavior pass without comment, so I'm going to quote Glenn Greenwald.


It's possible that the Democratic takeover of Congress can result in genuine and meaningful -- and desperately-needed -- change for our country. But it's also possible that it could result in nothing notable, that it will produce only the most marginal and politically risk-free actions, all justified by the need not to do anything too "extreme" due to a fear of harming their 2008 electoral prospects.

Which course Democrats take will be determined by whether they are guided by political figures committed to genuine change due to a conviction that such change is needed (even if that means incurring some political risks), or whether they are driven by cynical, exclusively political and dishonest Beltway operatives like Rahm Emanuel.

To compete with Republicans, Democrats need not only political idealists, but also calculating strategists who are devoted to winning. That's fair enough. But they also need to enforce some (at least) minimal ethical standards if they are to avoid becoming indistinguishable from the rotted and corrupt GOP tyrants who were just so deservedly tossed out of power. Rahm Emanuel seems to fall well below even those most minimal standards.

One of the main arguments that progressives must make to a cynical electorate is that both parties are not the same, that Democrats hold ourselves to high ethical standards and can be trusted to run the country.  It's much harder to make this argument when people like Emanuel are highly regarded figures with esteem and power within the Democratic Party even as they cynically lie to a national audience.

There is the argument that he had to do this to win, that he had no choice but to lie to crush the Republican brand.  But is that really plausible?  Did Emanuel have to go on TV that day?  Was there no other way to handle the Foley scandal?  More to the point, was the Foley scandal the only reason the Democrats won?

I don't think we can conclusively answer these questions, but if you look at exit polls Iraq figured as large as corruption in the public mind, and clarity on Iraq - which Emanuel fought for months - has to be considered an incredibly important factor.  But I'm not trying to prove that he did or didn't do a good job at the DCCC.  We did after all capture Congress.  What is very clear is that the level of cynicism and credibility that Democrats deserve from the electorate will ultimately relate to the level of integrity and honesty with which we conduct ourselves.  And in that sense, Rahm is a problem.

Tags: Foley Case, George Stephanopoulos, rahm emanuel, This Week (all tags)

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Rahm's Ego

Sometimes staying out of the lime-light is the prudent course.  How difficult such a choice would have been for Rahm with his well-known huge ego is illustrated by this thought experiment.  Suppose an aide asks this question of Rahm concerning ABC's invitation to appear on this week to speak about the Foley matter:

"Congressman, since you knew about the improper messages nearly a year ago, and since we can expect Steph to ask you what you knew and when you knew it, don't you think it would be better than having you lie to suggest that ABC invite Howard Dean to speak for Democrats instead of you?"

by Arthurkc 2006-12-11 07:54AM | 0 recs
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Iraq was biggest issue.

Corruption issue for Republicans was more than Foley. Delay, Abramoff, Cunningham with Foley just being the tipping point.

Plus the corruption issue was that Republican leadership did nothing about it in order to protect a seat in Congress.  Whether Democrats knew about Foley was not really the issue.  From the stories, it looked like all of DC including media knew about Foley.  

There was similar talk that the media was as culpable as Republican leaders, same as there's talk Emmanuel is as culpable.

But Foey was the Republicans problem especially since they made a career out of "morality". They were the leadership, they had the power, Foley was part of that power and corruption issue was the Republicans ignoring the moral "issue" they had cynically been using for years to win elections.

by BrionLutz 2006-12-11 08:04AM | 0 recs
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My recollection is that Rahm chose his words uber carefully and that he referred to "seeing" any documents, rather than generally "knowing" about any documents.  It struck me (at the time) as a particularly unusual phrasing; the lawyer in me wanted to ask a follow up.

by VaAntiRepublican 2006-12-11 09:13AM | 0 recs
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Here's the video.  I would also encourage you to follow te link to Greenwald's post.

Did he technically lie?  Yes.

by Matt Stoller 2006-12-11 09:29AM | 0 recs
Not to say 'I told you so', but...

Well, actually I picked it up from Somerby and reported it here under the hed Foley: is there a Dem exposure?

Somerby's conclusion with which I concurred:

On it's face, that's a world-class non-denial denial.

That's a punch telegraphed by singing telegram!

Why wasn't it followed up by the media? Who knows.

by skeptic06 2006-12-11 09:30AM | 0 recs
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Ok and was it Rahm's job to inject himself in to the slime pit that the Republicans had fostered by not kicking that creep out of their ranks?

You know what if this group was willing to cover this up, they deserved everything they got. Who knows what effect it had on the election, but Rahm Emanuel wasn't protecting this guy, and he had no control over Foley, the page program or the Republican caucus. This Democratic self flagelation in an attempt to show our unadulterated purity necessitates we examine our own psyche's. We need to determine if we as Democrats hate ourselves so much that we will attack our own when there is no one left to attack on the other side. I'd call that one of two things, martyr complex or loser complex.

We won fellows; Glenn Greenwald and My DD ought to savor that for a while before we go on the attck against our own.  We should also remember that without Rahm and without Howard Dean and without Nancy Pelosi and without Harry Reid etc. there would be no victory.  

by Full Contact Pilates 2006-12-11 10:11AM | 0 recs
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Matt was focusing more on Rahm going on TV and misleading the public. The focus of this diary wasn't what he should have done when he found  out about Foley.

by Pravin 2006-12-11 02:31PM | 0 recs
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Before I actually say No, let's point out a couple things. First, the Foley scandal did have an affect on the election: it showed the average American parent something that he/she could readily understand, that the Republican Congress cared more about their own power than in doing the right thing. People wouldn't tolerate it that behavior from their kid's teachers, and they got it about Haster and the gang.
Second, don't forget; a congressional staffer tried to get various news outlets to deal with this story for months, but they all refused. Why? Well, it's the MSM, after all - at least the story got out.
Finally, yeah Rahm's a jerk. I live in his district, and I never vote for him. But he's got nothing to be ashamed of here. Let it go
by thelonius 2006-12-11 10:55AM | 0 recs
Re: Does Rahm's Foley Lie Matter?
 Even from the crassest viewpoint, Rahm's strategic logic seems suspect to me. If I am remembering the schivvy details correctly, Delay and co. still knew years before Rahm and covered it up.
  So why hold on to it till right before the election? It's not the kind of thing that people are likely to forget about quickly. He created unnecessary liabilty for himself, and  I tend to think it would have had MORE impact politically if it'd come out in farther advance of the election.
by sb 2006-12-11 01:32PM | 0 recs
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you fucking rights it matters.I have 2 daghters,if one  teacher new for a year that another teacher was going around trying to molest them they would pay,I garrentee it.AS long as emanuel is in charge of anything having to do with democrats,they will no longer get my money or support.I garentee it.

by idahojim 2006-12-11 03:59PM | 0 recs
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Is there any opportunity for a primary challenge against Rahm?

by js noble 2006-12-11 07:31PM | 0 recs
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nope... not really. though there is a chance he might retire after '08 to work for the clintons again.

by Legionnaire 2006-12-11 08:48PM | 0 recs

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