Courage and Ned Lamont

Tonight was the final debate for the Senate race in Connecticut.  As is somewhat fitting, Senator Lieberman was absent, just as he's been absent from Connecticut for the past ten years, and just as he'll be absent from Connecticut for the next six if he wins.  The debate was good and substantive, with Lamont focusing on the war and Schlesinger focusing on the dishonest way Lieberman has portrayed his own record.

Joe is treating this state with total contempt, treating the voters as if they don't matter.  His contempt has wounded many of his strongest believers, many of those who found Joe's early call to public service dignified and inspirational.  Despite the closing of the polls, he has successfully lied about Lamont's record, and raised questions that are scaring voters into thinking that Joe is for change in Iraq.  Colin McEnroe has a stunning piece on what this race means. 

I have Lieberman questions coming out my ears, and I will apparently never get to ask them. I mean, the people at Fox 61 and Quinnipiac University may feel spurned by the senator right now, but imagine how I feel. Lieberman has declined invitations to be on my show since his disastrous visit last March. Think about that. Over the years, he has found a comfort level with nationally ranked race-baiters like Bob Grant and paleo-conservatives such as Hannity and Beck (no, not that Beck). But a left-leaning show in his home state is more than he can handle. One of his staffers once told my producer, "Colin doesn't make it easy."

McEnroe is a great journalist, a great talk radio host.  He was an admirer of Lieberman, a believer that Joe has lost.

He really was, during the 1980s and much of the 1990s, not simply a politician I believed in but THE politician I beleved in.  Among officeholders of significant rank, he was the guy whose integrity I regarded as unbreachable. I did not always agree with him, but I did believe that he arrived at his opinions through serious reflection.

I don't believe that anymore.  I feel like Benjy, the "idiot" in "The Sound and the Fury," when he says Caddy doesn't smell like trees anymore. Joe has lost his innocence.  He's an opportunist, a self-seeker, like all the rest.

There are hundreds of thousands of Connecticut residents who have seen the real Lieberman unmasked.  The one who buys votes, lies, and agrees that his opponent is 'the biggest jerk in the world'.  The one who runs an ad calling Ned an 'upstart' as if that word is an insult.  The one who lies about his vote on the war, who lies about his record on Social Security, who lies about pretty much everything.  The one who cannot take criticism without attacking the messenger instead of discussing the argument.  Many of those are younger voters, who are decisively in Ned's camp, people who will vote for a long time, and whose attitudes are shaped by Joe's immoral pandering lack of leadership.

There's another side to this race.  And that's Ned Lamont.  Lamont is in this race because he stood up and said that though the polls showed that no one could beat Lieberman in the primary, his personal sense of responsibility said that he ought to try.  His example gave courage to hundreds of thousands of Connecticut voters, and asked them to examine their states' leaders critically, to not just rubber-stamp Bush and Joe's war.  Lamont's courage pushed the debate dramatically to the left. Joe's now saying that he seeks to bring the troops home less than a year after this same Joe Lieberman penned a high profile Op-Ed titled 'Our Troops Must Stay'.

Lamont is a candidate in this race because the people of Connecticut put him here.  Yes he put a lot of money into the race, but a lot of people support him, volunteer for him, and phone-bank every day.  Lamont is a people-powered candidate who is making the case for change against a longtime skilled incumbent who has successfully muddled his position on Iraq.  So the question on November 7th is whether voters will look beyond the politics and show the courage to vote for change.  I think they will.  

Tags: Alan Schlesinger, Connecticut, CT-Sen, Joe Lieberman, Ned Lamont (all tags)

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31 Comments

Re: Courage and Ned Lamont

Is this what you meant to say?

Lamont's courage pushed him dramatically to the left, forcing him to lie about the war to the point where he's now saying that he seeks to bring the troops home less than a year after Joe Lieberman penned a high profile Op-Ed titled 'Our Troops Must Stay'.

by drlimerick 2006-11-02 03:47PM | 0 recs
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I noticed that, too. I assume that the "him" is Lieberman, unless there's something we don't know about Lamont.

But what's up with the Lieberman ad? I don't want to see that crap here or elsewhere. It's really bizarre to see that petulant, grandiose, self-important gasbag becoming "Sweet Ol' Joe" for the cameras.

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2006-11-02 04:29PM | 0 recs
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One would assume that Stoller intended that sentence to be read such that every "he" and "him" refers to Lieberman, but it reads as if Stoller is saying that Lamont pushed himself dramatically to the left and then lied about the war.

by Silent sound 2006-11-02 04:32PM | 0 recs
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    One thing I just keep scratching my head about over and over -- what could a Democrat possibly find appealing about Joe Lieberman?

   All Harry Reid had to do was say "Lamont inherits Lieberman's seniority if he gets elected", and Joe's main selling point would have melted away overnight.

  Oh well. May every Connecticut voter get exactly what he votes for.
   

by Master Jack 2006-11-02 03:55PM | 0 recs
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Yeah, but the caucus would go apeshit over free seniority.  Look, I love Lamont, but it would be absurd to give him a committee chair.

by Steve M 2006-11-02 04:19PM | 0 recs
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what could a Democrat possibly find appealing about Joe Lieberman?

The only thing dumber than the average Democrat is a smart Republican. :-)

Rote vote gets you the like of Joe Lieberman - and, glory be, it might yet get rid of the demon called Holy Joe.

When the Democratic Party power brokers cast out an earlier anti-war crusader in Eugene McCarthy, it led to a vast decline in the Democratic Party.  The Democratic Party had been so dominant there was widespread speculation that Republicans were on their way to going the way of the Whig. Instead the Democrats became the despised minority party.

The decay of the Democratic Party found its penultimate expression in the election of Bill Clinton, who shucked off any real concern for the Democratic Party's historic base voters.  If you weren't at least middle class, you weren't wanted or needed.  If you were poor or disabled or black or brown, you got the short end of the stick and could damn well love it or lump it.  (Though Bill Clinton is often hailed by the sadly misguided as the country's first "black president," is there any mistaking the notion that the "suffering middle class" excludes African-Americans despite their rising economic status?) The lower classes were empowered to care for themselves while the business of government was to care for the upper half.

The most welcome sign of the cleansing of the soul of the Democratic Party to this unbowed liberal can be found in the speeches of Jim Webb, of all people.  Maybe Webb has paid homage to the now trite "suffering middle class" but I have not heard it.

A new day is breaking upon us.  If an ugly artifact from the past like Joe Lieberman yet survives, he will nevertheless continue to be marginalized with his Republican friends.

Best,  Terry

by terryhallinan 2006-11-02 08:49PM | 0 recs
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Matt, why are you so optimistic when the polls are not looking good? What I don't get are the 35% of Dems who intend to vote against their party's nominee.

by ab initio 2006-11-02 04:29PM | 0 recs
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Because he doesn't want Liberman to win in a blowout.

As Atrios would say, this has been another edition of simple answers to simple questions.

by gsteff 2006-11-02 04:39PM | 0 recs
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Once again, Matt, an exellent post. Let me add that Ned has not only changed the political landscape of CT, but his courage has changed the political landscape of this country. If we see a Democratic wave on November 7, it will be because Ned Lamont made the Iraq war a central focus of his campaign at a time when all the pundits were predicting that the Republicans were going to run on Iraq and the need to keep "fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here" meme. Ned turned the tables on the Republicans, and with his primary victory gave every other Democratic candidate the opportunity to grow a spine. Our candidates this year our hard hitting, committed individuals, no longer allowing themselves to be swiftboated by the other side because Ned was willing to take that first courageous step. We owe Ned a great deal. If there is any justice in this world, Ned will soon be Senator-elect Lamont.

by grayslady 2006-11-02 04:37PM | 0 recs
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You hit the nail on the head. Rahm and the DC boys&girls did not want to run on the Iraq FUBAR. Ned had the courage and showed how it could be done. Unfortunately there are 35% of the Dems in CT that will still hang with the Liberliar. That's such a shame. At the end CT will get a senator they want and deserve.

by ab initio 2006-11-02 08:09PM | 0 recs
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My question is this, what are the people on the ground saying? Does it seem like Lamont is gaining or dropping amongst the average person?

by JewishJake 2006-11-02 04:37PM | 0 recs
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Good question about optomism.  I'm seeing lots of Dems optomistic about polls right now--all the ones where Dems look good--but find this sort of fantasy attitude about polls in CT.  I mean if all the other polls are acceptable, what is wrong with the polls showing Lieberman ahead?  Why should we see this race as different from the others?  

I think Lamont really screwed up.  The New York Observer covers lots of his campaign mistakes today, and they are real.  We can blame "Washington Dems" or whoever else we want to for his problems, but really, he just made some mistakes that Lieberman took advantage of effectively.  It sucks, but it's true.  

With luck though, Lamont can pull this off.  Right now I remain skeptical though.  

by KC 2006-11-02 04:42PM | 0 recs
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Yeah, but c'mon...who would ever expect that asshole to run a second race as an independent after getting bounced out of the primary? It's not exactly something that's in the Candidate's Playbook. Re-positioning yourself agaist a newly independent challenger would be difficult for any candidate, and it was far more difficult for a political rookie.

Yeah, Ned made mistakes, but so does every candidate. None of it should've mattered, because he should've been running against Schlesinger only. If Joe's D.C. frat buddies had been at all serious about pressuring him to leave the race, we might not be in this situation today.

Still, if every state without a sore-loser law doesn't pass one after this, then they're freaking crazy.

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2006-11-02 06:42PM | 0 recs
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Really I think it's quite unfortunate, because I think all of this excessive (and occasionally evidence-defying) optimism in the end may wind up eclipsing what's really important about the Lieberman-Lamont race. Lamont's primary victory, and the fact that he's getting as close as he is in the general, have been stunning achievements, and are extremely inspirational because they demonstrate primaries can be used to knock out a crappy incumbent (or, at least, they can as long as you are in a state with a sore-loser law). But I worry this will be forgotten because certain people have gotten the hopes surrounding the Lamont-Lieberman race up so unreasonably high that anything less than a win for Lamont will be seen as a setback for the "netroots" that was so instrumental in getting him as far as he did.

I do think Lamont definitely has a chance at winning this one, even still, I do still think this is one of the most interesting races in this year's entire election, and obviously polls can, do, and will make mistakes. But the fact remains that the polls so far are only indicating a Lieberman win, and trying to wish that away gets us no closer to fixing it.

by mcc 2006-11-02 11:07PM | 0 recs
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Can we stop this fantasy?

Lieberman is way way way ahead in the polls. Why are the CT polls any different? We sound like Karl Rove when we say "we have THE polls" and "we have a better GOTV that is magical and will blow out Lieberman".

Give me a break. Lamont may have a good GOTV, which will at most give him 2 more % than the polls give him, but GOTV is not everything. There are thousands of regular people who will turn out for Joe without any help from orange hats. Lamont is toast. He cannot make up a 12 point deficit no matter how much you pretend that Lieberman's ballot position will "hurt him", or how you think Schlesinger will get 15% of the vote, or back to the ridiculous GOTV argument. Really, we sound exactly like the Republicans do when they try to spin that their losses will be limited to 5 seats.

Ridiculous. Lamont is dead, Lieberman will end up with probably 50% of the vote, and it's not Chuck Schumer's fault, it's not Harry Reid's. It's Lamont's horribly bad general election campaign that did him in. Could he have received more help from the establishment?> Absolutely, but the buck stops with Lamont himself. Take resposibility for this fiasco of a campaign instead of blaming everyone in sight except for the man himself.

by MiCHAEL104 2006-11-02 04:51PM | 0 recs
Here's the fuzzy math I saw on another site

* Republican GOTV minus Democratic GOTV <=2 points

* Democratic GOTV minus Zero GOTV (Lieberman) = 4 points

It was so preposterous I didn't even want to comment directly. That 4 points in real numbers is tens of thousands of votes in statewide senate race. I read many days ago that Lieberman borrowed Bloomberg's GOTV operation and plans 2800 shifts in 700 polling sites, so the zero isn't accurate in itself.

I don't think this race is anyone's fault, if Lamont loses. Breeders Cup day is Saturday. I don't know a handicapper on this planet who mistakes the Sprint or turf races for the Classic. Completely different dynamic. Anyone who proposed one of the sprint favorites could step up and challenge Bernardini or Lava Man at 1 1/4 miles would be laughed out of the room.

In a primary you can have a late tsunami since it's carrying likeminded people. In a general election the numbers are ideologically braced. It reminds me of the nonsense in 2004, when Kerry was described as a late closer. Yeah, when he's running in a statewide race favorable to his partisanship. How the hell does that equate to nationally, in an electorate that does not tilt 39% liberal and 16% conservative, which is the Massachusetts breakdown?

When late funded and late surging candidates prevail in a general election, it's inevitably in a state or district with the partisanship in their favor, a glorified primary. Lamont could easily come from behind against a Schlesinger or another Republican head-to-head in a state like Connecticut. But Lieberman swiping the 30-35% of the Democratic vote has always been the damn problem. Those are the votes a wave would ordinarily catch, the people who lean toward your party but are the least loyal.

by Gary Kilbride 2006-11-02 06:00PM | 0 recs
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But Lieberman swiping the 30-35% of the Democratic vote has always been the damn problem. Those are the votes a wave would ordinarily catch, the people who lean toward your party but are the least loyal.

Lamont hasn't solidified the Democratic base, and that's a huge problem.  Huge.  Wave elections don't just bring in less loyal voters, they also bring in more inconsistent voters that don't always vote.  I imagine that this group will still come in for Lamont because they are coming out largely to vote against Bush and the war.

At the same time, I'm not sure that Lieberman's low information Democrats are less consistent in their voting patterns, only that they get take a more passive approach to getting information about politics.  

by Matt Stoller 2006-11-02 07:04PM | 0 recs
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WHen you beat a 3 term incumbent who hasnt been involved in a sex or corruption scandal, you need all segments to get together to oust the incumbent. Lamont made some mistakes after the primary. But most candidates make mistakes. If a candidate deserves to lose an election because of a less than perfect campaign, then most people should lose elections including Lieberman who has lost his cool one too many times. What Lamont needed was the party machinery to rally the democratic leaning voters who were still loyal to Lieberman because Lieberman kept bragging that he wasnt going to lose any seniority.

by Pravin 2006-11-02 07:16PM | 0 recs
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This is exactly right.  Lamont made some mistakes; so what.  The problem is that he found himself in an Alice-in-Wonderland race where the Democratic Party wouldn't back the Democratic nominee and the Republican Party wouldn't back the Republican candidate.  Lieberman, a sociopathic Zelig if there ever was one, used this extremely effectively to his advantage and managed to create an appearance of being all things to all people.  Given this dynamic, it's rather amazing Lamont has maintained his position; if either party backed its candidate, he'd be the easy winner.

by dr bloor 2006-11-03 04:18AM | 0 recs
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Well until we see the final election results we won't know whether your predictions are accurate. But both sides' internal polls are showing the race under 10 points and closing fast. Even the notorious Quinnipiac showed the race closing by 5 points (from 17 to 12).

I don't know whether Ned will win but I think it will be very close for all the reasons you have dismissed.

by kundalini 2006-11-03 12:27AM | 0 recs
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That post did not deserved to be troll rated.  It may be hard for some to follow but it's not an invalid point of view.   As to whether it's true or not, we'll find out in, oh, about 110 hours.

Certainly Lamont taking time off after the primary didn't help...reminds me of Dukakis in 1988.  And aside from consolidating Democratic votes, I haven't seen that he's done a good job for most of his campaign addressing independents, which are huge in Connecticut.  

by InigoMontoya 2006-11-03 02:12AM | 0 recs
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Lieberman has NO presence in CT. The only thing between him and reality are these polls - trending in Ned's favor, btw.

All polls are not equal - whether in TN or VA or CT. Lamont has been able to get out incredible numbers of supports at all events, campaign tours, debates and during the primary. Nothing even approximating Ned's appeal is visible in the Lieberman camp. Rain or shine, day or night the Lamont campaign is energized and in huge numbers. Not so with Lieberman - it's all poll numbers - leading one to think: there's no there there, behind the curtain of polls.

The polls are telling Lieberman to, once again, "stay the course". We've heard it and its a losing proposition for Iraq and for his run.

This poll thing get's beaten up on every blog with the same scenarios played out. There is very good reason for Lamont and his supporters to be very hopeful and Lieberman to be very wary.

by Maxfield 2006-11-03 05:06AM | 0 recs
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I bumped into a couple of my friends from an old job this morning, raging righties all the way.  We amicably dissed each others party, of course the first shot was how about that John Kerry, I won't repeat the Hillary joke one told me.  But one of the guys was asking me about Joe, I told him Joe is all about Joe and lacks any sort of integrity, he replied, "he's the kind of Democrat I could vote for, he seems like he always says what he means and he's full of integrity."  I shook my head in response.

Apparently somebody got a wire crossed somewhere and thought that Calvin and Hobbes was a reality show, not a wicked funny comic strip, and it's filtered throughout the gop stratosphere.  It's the only explanation I can think of.

by DuckmanGR 2006-11-02 05:58PM | 0 recs
Courant &amp; McEnroe

I too have enjoyed Colin's columns on this race. However, I am confused as to why none of his outrage seems to flow up to the Courant newspaper. It means nothing if he just writes this in the blog because we are still a few years away from the web being more acessible as a source of news by the common person. Is their management so dense that they buy the Lieberman spin so easily? Or is it just powerful people protecting one of their own?

by Pravin 2006-11-02 07:12PM | 0 recs
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Colin's a radio guy, actually.  The press has been in the tank for Lieberman this whole race, though that's not really surprising.

by Matt Stoller 2006-11-02 07:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Courant &amp;amp; McEnroe

Yes, their management is incredibly dense. The Tribune Corp.  They also own the local FOX affiliate in Hartford.

by 1970cs 2006-11-02 07:43PM | 0 recs
Ned Lamont

Win or lose, Lieberman is seriously damaged goods at this point.  His worst qualities have been showcased in the two campaigns he has had to run this year.  I expect the fierce CT bloggers to be all over his ass even if he manages to hold his Senate seat.  He is going to wish he just quietly retired...

by global yokel 2006-11-02 07:32PM | 0 recs
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Like he's gonna care from the comfort of his DC digs! Liberliar will always be the same.

by ab initio 2006-11-02 08:16PM | 0 recs
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I just saw the ad on local TV with the car crashing into the wall repeatedly.  Hilarious!

I'm becoming increasingly convinced that this is the way to go negative.  People just tune out the traditional black-and-white negative ad with a scary picture of the candidate.

by Steve M 2006-11-02 07:38PM | 0 recs
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It's a great ad and it cuts to the chase: do you want the status quo or do you want change?

by kundalini 2006-11-03 12:29AM | 0 recs
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Brian Lehrer got only 10 perfunctory minutes from Joe on WNYC yesterday.  Ned and Schlessinger had given him a half hour.

by Bob H 2006-11-03 02:34AM | 0 recs

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