Thinking About Bad Incentives

I'm not sure how to solve this, because of structural reasons, but James Carville's friends have more netroots money in their bank accounts than any blogger or netroots friendly consultant.  We raised huge sums of cash last cycle for candidates.  These candidates often hired bad consultants that lose races and kept our money.

Meanwhile, amazing sites like Bluejersey are stuck with basically zero cash, even though they produce real political results and do it in a way that leaves real infrastructure.

It's not like we can stop giving to candidates, as we do have to elect and protect Democrats.  This is a horrible incentive model - become a bad consultant and you get paid and have no accountability for decisions like pushing the bad vote on the torture bill.  Become an effective organizer or blogger and, well, have fun trying to pay your rent as you push for candidates who often sell you out.  

Does anyone have ideas on how to deal with this problem?  I mean this is a place where we have a lot of leverage, since it is our money.

Update: Just so everyone knows, MyDD brings in about $1000-1500 apiece in advertising a month for me, Chris, and Singer. That's roughly $15,000 a year, or around $7 an hour if you assume we each spend around 40 hours a week on the site. We're one of the larger blogs so our income is on the high end of the blogosphere. I wanted you to have a frame of reference.

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75 Comments

Form a 527

by jayackroyd 2006-11-18 04:58AM | 0 recs
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Earmark the money from the netroots and demand that they will not be used to pay DC consultants (or let us pick consultants). If the candidate refuses to cooperate on this - no money to him/her.

We need to starve the DC consultants. They are a joke, or worse (since they help Republicans win).

by Populism2008 2006-11-18 05:09AM | 0 recs
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Money is fungible -- our earmarks will just be used for X, and other money will still go to the bad consultants (and my personal bete noir, ad buy commissions).  

What needs to happen is a concerted effort to track consultant win/loss records, campaign advice, and business practices.  And hiring the bottom 10% (or whatever) means you don't get netroots money.

Also, frankly, the party infrastructure needs to beat the consultants into submission on the ad buy commission issue.  AFAIK, the Republicans did that a while back, and their campaign money goes a lot farther, and their incentives are much less perverse (in the purely economic sense).

by jsw 2006-11-18 05:35AM | 0 recs
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Win loss records could be arbitrary. This would penalize consultants who work for candidates in marginal or Republican districts.

by Alice Marshall 2006-11-18 06:35AM | 0 recs
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Well, the only real problem with all this is if lots of money goes to these consultants and the candidates keep losing.  If they win, do we really care (provided they win ethically, that is)?  I mean if we get cheap consultants and the candidates keep losing, what have we gained?

What we need is a new generation of consultants ... and that will happen organically, I suspect, since the old one will eventually die of old age.  The other thing that will hasten the change of the guard will be publicly funded campaigns, so the issue isn't money anymore, and new candidates can enter races and bring new consultants with them (and the old guard will go work for corporate America for real in order to maintain their incomes.)

I mean, how much is a good politcal consultant really worth?  

by David in Burbank 2006-11-18 07:25AM | 0 recs
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a good political consultant should be worth as much as a very effective ad executive.

by Texas Nate 2006-11-18 07:32AM | 0 recs
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A site featuring a performance rating of consultants would be a good start. Only if there's data why someone is a bad consultant pressure can be applied on the candidates to avoid ot et rid og the loosers.

by Gray 2006-11-18 05:10AM | 0 recs
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  1. There is no metric for performance.
  2. There is no money for such a site.
by Matt Stoller 2006-11-18 05:14AM | 0 recs
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Gee, you'd think candidates would be pounding on the tables for some good, accurate performance information about political consultants. Why would they want to waste their money and lose? Even if they win, why would they want to help other Democrats lose by supporting the Carville bunch? (Okay, maybe that second point isn't such a slam dunk. Winning is everything.) It's an obvious opportunity for a politically minded entrepreneur who has the cred to make value judgements.

by billybob 2006-11-18 05:32AM | 0 recs
No Metric is why mistakes are repeated

It's a problem we need to need to address.  The consultants claim to help candidates and we claim they are self-serving. Objective measures, if possible,would help.

by FishOutofWater 2006-11-18 05:33AM | 0 recs
Re: No Metric is why mistakes are repeated

There are no objective measures - it's too complicated a system.

What we need is localized media.

by Matt Stoller 2006-11-18 05:40AM | 0 recs
Re: No Metric is why mistakes are repeated

what do you mean? regional blogs? local weeklies?

by Texas Nate 2006-11-18 06:11AM | 0 recs
Re: No Metric is why mistakes are repeated

I mean what I wrote.  If people are afraid they will get embarrassed if they do a bad job, they will have once incentive system.  If people know they will be supported by positive feedback, they will do a good job.

The format doesn't matter.

by Matt Stoller 2006-11-18 10:05AM | 0 recs
Re: No Metric is why mistakes are repeated

Let's make an objective measure, then.  I'm sure we can come up with a formula for the difficulty of winning a particular race using some combination of whether the candidate was a challenger/incumbent, Partisan Voting Index, whether the candidate ran before (and if so how they compared against the last Presidential race), and maybe some objective measure of the quality of the candidate they're working for and/or the opponent (favorability ratings could be an easy way to standardize that).

After we figure out the difficulty of each race, a particular consultant's record would be based on the difficulty of the race and whether he won or lost it.

by Fran for Dean 2006-11-19 06:56PM | 0 recs
What an interesting idea

This is one of those great ideas that would be quite time intensive.  I wonder if it would be worth doing in a wikipedia style.

by lisadawn82 2006-11-18 05:14AM | 0 recs
Re: What an interesting idea

It would be worth doing.

by Matt Stoller 2006-11-18 05:17AM | 0 recs
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Is there some way to track the consultants each campaign hired and analyze their results?   We could then publish a list of net-roots recommended and not recommended consultants.  Which consultant a candidate hires could then be one factor in evaluating how much support the net-roots provide.

by Joe Scordato 2006-11-18 05:14AM | 0 recs
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Matt  -  I see you replied to a similar suggestion.  For metrics: Wins are important.  Good ads are another.  Let's discuss what makes a good consultant.  Money is definitely an issue but the net-roots have shown what they can do a shoe-string by working together.

by Joe Scordato 2006-11-18 05:20AM | 0 recs
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I'm not sure about all of your assumptions.

1) Wins are not an important metric in all cases.  Hillary Clinton won.  So what?  Larry Kissell lost.  So what?  Kissell's consultants outperformed Clinton's.

2) The netroots can't do shoestring anymore.  Look at the Huffington Post - real investment needs to be brought in at this point or we will atrophy.

by Matt Stoller 2006-11-18 05:23AM | 0 recs
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I agree that wins are only one factor to evaluate a consultant since winning depends on so many other things.  But if we're going to judge what makes a good or bad consultant, we need to develop a list of standards.   We all have an informal idea of what we like or don't like to see in a consultant - we need to formalize these factors and determine ways to measure them.  

Your Huff Post comment suggests we should be looking at an organization that can be funded by progressives, like a think tank.  That might be better than a 527.  What about existing organizations that do political science?

by Joe Scordato 2006-11-18 05:37AM | 0 recs
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I think some best practices models could be produced -- in the old days the rule of thumb was a good campaign spent 70% of its budget on mass communications in the district/state in the last 3 weeks. I don't think that rule applies exactly anymore -- we've seen early ads have impact in the last few cycles AND online communications are demonstrably more effective early on.
I think the ideal campaign communications budget would track more closely with corporate ad spending -- ie less broadcast TV, more cable, more online advertising (maybe as much as 15%) -- but no race is going to be ideal.
Honestly in the smaller races, much of the money is mis-spent through ignorance -- paying too many staffers, who, no matter how hard working can only reach a very small number of voters.
A friend of my wife's just got elected District Attorney in a very red county in Texas and I believe the difference was made by a small ($12,000) cable TV buy. It would have been very easy for her to spend that much on one fulltime or 3/4 time staffer who could've worked their ass off and still made no difference.
Overpriced mail and phones are other money sinks. As is the infamous excessive ad buy commission. I think ad commissions have a place -- particularly on small campaigns where a consultant frequently advises the candidate on message throughout the campaign and takes no fees, in those cases a $10 or $15K commission (out of say a $150K ad buy) is fairly reasonable, IMO.
I think the main metric should be -- did this candidate overperform? Did they improve D performance in their district, did they outperform the Gubernatorial or Presidential candidate at the top of the ticket?
But keep in mind, consulting is hard too, candidates are, by definition, ego-maniacs, they're stressed out, they're getting advice from literally every person they talk to -- including large donors, office holders, other candidates, other consultants, volunteers, local party officials, etc -- so consultants are frequently put in impossible positions and often don't have final decision power.
The very worst mail pieces I see are invariably written by the candidates themselves. Spouses of candidates are also frequently a source of bad advice -- and sometimes good advice too.
The main thing to watch out for is egregious consulting practices -- excessive TV commissions, overpriced mail, inflated printing or phone costs, and poor spending patterns -- going black during the final weeks of the campaign being the clearest indicator of bad planning.
But you've got to remember that consultants often have limited power over the campaigns and ultimately the responsibility is with the candidates.
I think the netroots needs to educate itself (ourselves) on what constitutes good practice and in turn educate the candidates so they'll know what to watch out for and what to avoid.
And we should also watch out for blanket condemnation or adulation of certain consultants -- no one is perfect and no one has a secret formula. I know I've done races I was proud of, races I regret, and have never done everything as well as I would've like to even on the best races.
by Texas Nate 2006-11-18 05:56AM | 0 recs
Re: I think the contracts are important.

Consultants should not be paid by how much they spend on advertising or any other expense they may incur.  It is an incentive to waste money.  Consultants should be paid an agreed-upon salary, with, perhaps, incentive money for winning based on a sliding scale of win percentage points.

by dksbook 2006-11-18 11:57AM | 0 recs
Re: I think the contracts are important.

I agree with you for the most part -- absolutely on large campaigns. but on smaller campaigns it's one of the few ways to make things work financially. win bonuses are a better incentive and one i endorse.

by Texas Nate 2006-11-18 12:58PM | 0 recs
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In a project like this wins should be considered, but obviously shouldn't be the only factor.  Would there be any way of tracking how much a candidate under or out preformed depending on consultant?  Or looking at the difference between the poll closest in time to when the consultant was brought on board and the final vote (or the poll closest in time to when they left)?

None of these strike me as really bulletproof ideas, mostly because of a combination of lack of data and time requirements to compile them, but it seems like something has to be done at some point.  Obviously some consultants are better than others and it would be in everyone's interest to know which was which.  Except the bad consultants.  They probably won't appreciate this so much.

by B VT 2006-11-18 05:51AM | 0 recs
Ha!

HA!  So you do have a metic you apply, don't you?  Kissle's consultants did a better job and lost?  How so? Seems like you have a starting point for a job performance review, at the very least.

by David in Burbank 2006-11-18 07:32AM | 0 recs
Re: Ha!

Boo ya, you got me.

Politics is an art.  Kissell vastly overperformed his expectations with very little money.  Clinton spent $30 million and failed to carry three winnable seats or a bunch of state senate seats.  

I'm just making a value judgment, I'm not using metrics.

by Matt Stoller 2006-11-18 10:07AM | 0 recs
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Thank you for posting about Blue Jersey, NJ has elections in 2007, so like Virginians they have to gear up right away.

by Alice Marshall 2006-11-18 05:18AM | 0 recs
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And RaisingKaine in Virginia needs support too -- VA elections in 2007 are a real opportunity and we need every statehouse possible in Dem control by 2009 when the new congressional districts are drawn.

by Texas Nate 2006-11-18 06:14AM | 0 recs
2009? Shouldn't that be 2011?

by Preston 2006-11-18 08:35AM | 0 recs
Re: 2009? Shouldn't that be 2011?

of course

by Texas Nate 2006-11-18 08:56AM | 0 recs
Well, in Texas it can happen every year!

by Preston 2006-11-19 08:16AM | 0 recs
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I don't think it is a good idea for netroots to start attaching strings to it's donations. That is part of what I do not like about the DSCC and DCCC.

by Alice Marshall 2006-11-18 05:19AM | 0 recs
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Just because the DSCC and DCCC do it does not make it a bad idea.  I would agree with you though.  What I would like to see is a real effort to fund local bloggers to observe campaigns up close and make sure the money is spent well through reporting.  The impact of a local blog on a campaign can be stunning, and if you can fund a group of local blogs to make sure that campaigns are doing good work you can leverage all dollars that go into campaigns and not just netroots money.  

Of course that requires a shift in giving patterns from the candidates directly to the netroots.

by Matt Stoller 2006-11-18 05:21AM | 0 recs
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I think that is a key step and I think the shortest path to that happy end is for the netroots to make a concerted effort to get involved in their local Democratic party structure. Frequently few people are involved so (as Bowers has shown in Philly) getting yourself elected to a local position -- precinct chair, state committee, etc -- is an entirely workable proposition.
Once the netroots has a strong voice in the party structure we can have a much bigger say in where the money goes.
I think we're moving out of the candidate driven broadcast era of politics and into a new network driven era -- post-broadcast politics. We need to build sustainable structures that live longer than one election cycle. A netroots driven party would fund local bloggers -- paid as staff or via grants -- and build the lasting technical infrastructure needed from cycle to cycle -- organizing tools, databases, etc.
We've been watching these non-party entities become lasting institutions -- MoveOn.org, DFA, etc -- and yet only the party is a small d democratically chartered structure that theoretically allows for direct control by its members.
Step one -- take over our local and national parties.
Step two -- invest in staffing and infrastructure
Step three -- monitor campaign practices and spending and make the process as transparent as possible.
by Texas Nate 2006-11-18 06:22AM | 0 recs
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BlogPAC.

JF

by Jaime Frontero 2006-11-18 06:55AM | 0 recs
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Yeah what is happening with BlogPAC anyhow?
it seemed pretty moribund this cycle.
by Texas Nate 2006-11-18 11:26AM | 0 recs
"Netroots Recommended"

I think you're essentially correct. The candidate really needs to be the captain of the ship and the detestable strings attached model of the DCCC/DSCC shouldn't be emulated. However, the netroots could do more to promote consultants -- perhaps a "Netroots Recommended" list -- who A) pledge to be fee based (not percentage based) and B) who, on balance, do quality work (admittedly by subjective standards).

by Steve in Sacto 2006-11-18 09:53AM | 0 recs
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well another obvious answer is to start a mydd consulting service. i don't know the specifics of the organization, but if you keep people posting but hire someone that has access to your brain trust.... although that might make it more difficult to write on the races you're consulting on...
by 2manychefs 2006-11-18 05:22AM | 0 recs
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No, that doesn't work either.  Making us financially dependent on candidates is the absolutely wrong structure to put in place.  All you'll do is prevent us from honestly discussing how campaigns are using money.

by Matt Stoller 2006-11-18 05:24AM | 0 recs
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Making us financially dependent on candidates is the absolutely wrong structure to put in place.  All you'll do is prevent us from honestly discussing how campaigns are using money.

You mean to say that if you are paid for what you do anyway, you must become corrupt? :-)

James Carville is corrupt because that is his nature. When he slithers under the covers with Mary Matlin, there is no Republican or Democrat and never was really.  Just two snakes in love with themselves.

You should be able to do consulting work for pay, if necessary with some kind of wall of separation. It is not difficult to see that you guys are worth a whole pen full of serpents.

Lamont's ad-man, Bill Hillsman, seems to have retained his virginity while doing more effective ads than the goofballs in the business.

Would it be too difficult to assign territories to individual consultants that then might avoid commenting on those individual races?

Another option is to set up a for-profit subsidiary with an entirely different group that you could even kick around being the boss and all. :-)

Best,  Terry

by terryhallinan 2006-11-18 06:07AM | 0 recs
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Candidates would pay for us to shut up.  That's what they would want.

by Matt Stoller 2006-11-18 06:18AM | 0 recs
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Candidates would pay for us to shut up.  That's what they would want.

For sure.

But could they pay you for Chris Bowers to shut up or pay Chris Bowers for you to keep quiet?

Yeah then you get into a problem of secrets and loss of free and open communication.

Just seems to me that there could be work on an individual campaign by one or more that could be kept quiet by that individual.

Maybe not.  Good luck either way.  Sure wouldn't hurt my feelings to see the James Carvilles defunded in any way however well you guys might do.

Best,  Terry

by terryhallinan 2006-11-18 06:38AM | 0 recs
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This isn't about me, it's about a messed up incentive system and how all of us fund it.

by Matt Stoller 2006-11-18 10:07AM | 0 recs
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Let's not put Hillsman on a pedestal -- while he made great ads for Lamont in the primary, his strategic advice was poor -- ie having no plan for the general election -- at least that's what he said on primary night. Bad Bill!
And at the same time he was working for a netroots hero in CT, he was working for Kinky Friedman in Texas. And the net effect of that effort was to keep a deeply unpopular and awful governor in office in Texas. Rick Perry's reelect numbers were 40% in late 2005 and that's exactly what he got in the election in fall 2006.
I'm ashamed to say that I also worked for Kinky for a few months -- after Chris Bell declined my services -- and before I realized that Kinky was an ego-maniac with no actual interest in the state or governing. Regardless, it was inexcusable on my part and discredited much of the work I'd done to build the D party in Texas since 2001. The fact that I was basically penniless at the time did not help me make good decisions, but is no excuse.

Having said all that, I ultimately blame the big Texas Democratic donors who starved Chris Bell and discouraged other more high profile candidates such as John Sharp and Pete Laney from running. What did they do instead? They funded Republican comptroller Carole Keeton Strayhorn to run as an independent. Here's what the Austin Chronicle called that on Election Night:

Indie hopeful Carole Keeton Strayhorn - the candidate whom many Democratic leaders had picked early on as their best hope of beating Perry - finished the hard-fought battle with a disappointing 18%. Her loss could come to represent one of the most foolish financial mistakes Texas Democratic investors have ever made in a statewide race.

And even the big donors who didn't give to Strayhorn were implementing an old-school shrink the playing field strategy that won us 6 state rep seats but also ignored multiple other races were ground could've been gained. See this article about the Rahm Emannuel of Texas, Fred Baron who generously gave in key races but also helped keep netroots hero Glen Maxey from winning the state party chair race. Note that Glen has gone ahead and built numerous online organizing tools via his TrueBlueAction PAC(funded in part by my old boss Mark Warner) but those same tools should ideally be offered by the party.
Anyway, in a disaster like the Texas 2006 gubernatorial campaign there's lots of blame to go around but the main point is to acknowledge what actually happened, learn from our mistakes, fess up to our culpabilities and move forward to fix them.

by Texas Nate 2006-11-18 06:41AM | 0 recs
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I agree that Hillsman shouldn't be put on a pedestal, but he wasn't the one doing the strategy on primary night.  

by Matt Stoller 2006-11-18 10:10AM | 0 recs
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The media consultant for a candidate should be prepared with a plan for the general when the opponent has announced he'll run as an independent. Hillsman makes good ads but has very little strategic acumen and fewer political principals.

by Texas Nate 2006-11-18 11:27AM | 0 recs
Independent Expenditures Are The Way To Go

This should be a no-brainer.  Let the netroots fund organizing directly.  And let them fund advertising, too, when that's appropriate.

But above all--as has been posted about here several times--let them use their money to go after registering new, progressive voters, which is far more cost-effective, rather than spending buckets of cash trying to persuade swing voters.

by Paul Rosenberg 2006-11-18 05:31AM | 0 recs
State legislature candidates

If you want value for your money, that's a good place to go.  Twenty bucks is much more significant there.  And they don't hire consultants.  Of course, the campaigns go from A to F in quality, so you can still end up with some stinkers.  If you can, find out if they've gone to Camp Wellstone.  If they have, then at least they should have some idea what they are doing.

by aretino 2006-11-18 05:43AM | 0 recs
Re: State legislature candidates

I'd also say that the Democracy For America training would be worth knowing about.  I took one last January and it was really top notch.  I suppose it all depends on what you take out of it, but I'd be willing to place a lot of money on DFA trainees being more effective than your average activist.

by B VT 2006-11-18 06:00AM | 0 recs
Re: State legislature candidates
Both of these are really good training sessions but keep in mind that the vast majority of voters hear about campaigns only through mass communications -- be it TV, mail, online, or autodial phones.
Word of mouth, person to person organizing is becoming increasingly effective but keep in mind that in the 1990's field was effectively useless in most states and even now, in most of the country is a distant fourth or fifth most effective tool.
by Texas Nate 2006-11-18 06:47AM | 0 recs
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If I understand the situation the problem is the culture in DC.  Same well connected people do the same bad job over and over again.

Can you change the culture so there is accountability ?

I think this is where you need to look at reaching out to some of the bigger players to have a discussion about accountability.

Gov Dean, Soros etc would be the right people to convene such a conference, and bank roll it.

You need to have a the DC players in a formal setting defending their practices, only then will any of your research be accepted by the DC culture.

by Organic George 2006-11-18 05:53AM | 0 recs
Consultant Registry

I think a consultant registry would good way to close the feedback loop in a way that improves the resources available to the Democratic Party.

The ratings that MyDD did of candidates campaign commercials this cycle was a great start towards this direction, and should be organized to include candidate post-election feedback, analysis of the consultant's work and recommendations for future candidates.

--morris

by MorrisMeyer 2006-11-18 05:57AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking About Bad Incentives

Something has to change.  Between now and next time, I think you, Kos, and some of the other bloggers need to meet with Schumer and Rahm to discuss this.  Schumer was at dkos saying, we want to work with you so let see what he does.  They should be evaluating the quality they get for their buck, too.  Ask for a meeting.

by dkmich 2006-11-18 05:59AM | 0 recs
Foundations

Agreed.  If you want big money, then you need to get the big foundations on board.Then you lose your independence though.  I say lets keep brainstorming for innovative funding mechanisms.  BTW, ad revenues will keep going up, as im sure any 3 year chart of what an ad costs at dkos, mydd will show.

by jcbhan 2006-11-18 05:59AM | 0 recs
Re: Foundations

Ad revenue is not going to work except for Kos, TPM, and Atrios.  That's basically it.

by Matt Stoller 2006-11-18 06:06AM | 0 recs
Bad math

$15,000 or even $10,000 a year isn't $2.50 an hour. $15,000 is about $7.20 an hour, $10,000 is $4.80 an hour. Now, that's still not much money at all, but it's definitely better than $2.50.

by Mullibok 2006-11-18 06:06AM | 0 recs
Re: Bad math

Thanks for the math help...

:)

by Matt Stoller 2006-11-18 06:18AM | 0 recs
Funding and Consultants

There are two separate issues here.

The first is how to cover your administrative costs.  It's something that most 501(c)(3)'s encounter.  They can find people to donate/pay for artists fees, exhibits and program consultants, but they can't find money to pay for rent, staff and overhead.  I agree that we need to get the big Democratic Donors behind this.  What about the Rappaport folks?  Or Soros?  Or Bing?  If anyone has any contacts there, they should suggest setting up a fund for bloggers.  Just like the non-profit world, bloggers would apply for grants to continue their work.  Best blogs or most traffic wins.

The second issue is bad consultants.  Obviously you are not going to get rid of the culture of consultants.  However, we can be more transparent about who gets hired.  Lots of times, it's really who you know.  Decisions are all made behind closed doors and the best candidate does not get the job.  If we have this wiki site, then that would at least let the grassroots and insurgents identify better consultants.  If we attach a "Stamp of Approval" then you (MyDD, Kos, SSP) can use this as a criteria in terms of which candidates are endorsed and become netroots candidates.  This will give us more of a say.

by exLogCabin 2006-11-18 06:10AM | 0 recs
Re: Funding and Consultants

Large donors and foundations are not interested in helping blogs.  I don't know why, but they aren't.

by Matt Stoller 2006-11-18 06:20AM | 0 recs
Re: Funding and Consultants
That's bullshit, they just need to be convinced that it's a good place to put their money and that there will be accountability and measurable results.
There are some exciting things going on along those lines and hopefully I'll be able to report back soon.
by Texas Nate 2006-11-18 07:00AM | 0 recs
Re: Funding and Consultants

It has to be marketed to them (funding agencies) just like any other idea you want to sell.  

Most of them have social action, public education, and social change etc. ad nauseum written into their giving criteria and their very mandates.  

Perhaps you might try and hire a professional fundraiser who will work for a sliding scale depending upon how he/she produces.  Motivate the right person.  You have so much to sell perhaps you don't realize it.

by Keoni 2006-11-18 09:04AM | 0 recs
Re: Funding and Consultants

This isn't about me, it's about a messed up incentive system.

by Matt Stoller 2006-11-18 10:04AM | 0 recs
Sorry, as leader, I meant you represent .

the collective vis a vis a strategy for dealing with money issues.  I see  folks talking about these same issues in many blogs now the election is over and the pond is rapidly drying up, not to really refill again until about a year before the next election.

by Keoni 2006-11-18 12:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking About Bad Incentives

What to do?  Persevere.  Your good new product won't knock off the crummy old product overnight.  It takes time, especially in high-risk one-shot ventures like running for office.  "Potentially great" is trumped by "known to be reliably mediocre."  It's human nature.  

The netroots did a fabulous job in this election.  Fabulous in absolute terms, and even better by comparison with 2004.  Everyone knows it.  But one or two elections aren't enough.  Each election cycle will win more adherents.  If nothing else, the old, internet-skeptical generation of politicians will retire.

by drlimerick 2006-11-18 06:23AM | 0 recs
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We're not competing with them.  We are paying them to suck.  That's the problem.

by Matt Stoller 2006-11-18 06:25AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking About Bad Incentives

Election outcomes are the resultant of multiple factors, consulting being one of them. Our primary focus should be the quality of the candidates: do they have good campaigning, communication & organizational skills, how can we make them better.

Here in the Philly area, Pat Murphy just won a pickup seat. The last Democratic candidate - heavily touted by Kos & I thus contributed to - was a lousy campaigner & lost.

by carter1 2006-11-18 06:26AM | 0 recs
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Matt,

I come from the Organic world, 20 years ago Big Ag wanted nothing to do us.

But we reached out to them and surprisingly a few and I do mean just a handful, of conventional AG groups stared a dialog with us.

You will find that if you reach out there will be some that listen.

Don't be afraid of big $, everyone wants to get the most bang for their bucks and they want to hear how their dollars can be better spent.

The Organic community did not give up it's principals when big companies accepted us, in fact they were the ones that changed to meet out standards.

The question is do you want to stay in your current financial situation or become sustainable?

Ask any organic farmer what sustainable means and they will tell you making a good living.  Profits and principal are not mutually exclusive.

by Organic George 2006-11-18 07:16AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking About Bad Incentives

Don't know how DC works.

Here in CA, the best consultants gravitate toward the frontrunner long before the primary and the bond formed there gets them the job in the general.  

The less able consultants are stuck with the less able candidates, or perhaps it's vice versa.  I think there is even a suggestion, maybe more than a suggestion, that in the primaries, the less able consultants are willing to sabotage their own candidates in the interests of 'playing the game' or for future consultant benefit.

A few months after the election of Gov. Davis, McClatchy published an analysis.  One of the questioins was how could an attractive, articulate candidate with a positive story and unlimited funds (Al Checchi) wind up with 19% (IIRC) of the vote?  It was quite a story.

by NorCalJim 2006-11-18 07:26AM | 0 recs
Value Of A Politcal Consultant ...

is inversely proportional to the number of times he(she) has appeared on Meet the Press.

by David in Burbank 2006-11-18 07:34AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking About Bad Incentives

I've been thinking about this for awhile and I think there is a great business opportunity for an enterprising person to provide a real service to both the blogging communities as well as the readers.

Basically, my concept is similar to the Act Blue page. Perhaps Act Blue could expand their focus to include this.    I'd be willing to spend, say, $100.00 month on supporting various blogs and organizations.  I would like to have an account where I can allocate (and reallocate on a continual basis) where this money goes.  Maybe to start: $10.00 to MyDD, maybe $15.00 to DU, maybe $5 to T-Bogg, maybe $25.00 to the DNC, maybe $20.00 to Drs. without Borders, maybe $20.00 to the ACLU, and $5.00 to Crooks and Liars.  The money would be distributed monthly based on these user defined allocations. A % of this monthly fee is retained by the website to fund this service.  The benefit to the user is a single place to manage these allocations and the ease to adjust the allocations over time.  The benefit to blogs is getting a more consistant revenue stream that doesn't rely on tip jars, fundraisers, etc.

by Innocent Bystander 2006-11-18 09:02AM | 0 recs
let's be careful

One of the most infuriating things for me when I worked for federal candidates was the false threat the DSCC/DCCC would make to a candidate, saying they "wouldn't give them any money" unless they hired Consultant X.

It was a BS threat, since of course, if a candidate was winning, they'd want that candidate to win, and would not lose a race just to make a point about hiring Consultant X. Try explaining that to your candidate, though, ESPECIALLY a first timer.

I agree, there is a handful of really stupid, really bad, really rich consultants in DC who screw up and get promoted/hired no matter what. I have had the misfortune of working with some and their ethics and work product suck.

That said, I don't know if witholding money from candidates unless they hire another group of consultants is any better. Maybe the way to solve the problem is to help candidates navigate some difficult choices when they don't have anyone to ask questions of. Trust me, if you perhaps spent some time writing up a manual called "How to Hire a Decent Political Team" and made it available on the site as a PDF, you would be doing a lot of candidates and their allies a big favor.

by Schadelmann 2006-11-18 10:06AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking About Bad Incentives

In terms of who gets the benefits of political blogs, friendly candidates, and Democratic institution like the DNC, DCCC and DSCC should be paying the money. Looking at the ActBlue pages, bloggers clearly generated millions for democratic candidates this year. There's a lot of volunteer and publicity support too which is hard too quantify but doubtless even more valuable.

How to convince them to pay and how to deal with ethical issues is a bigger problem. Direct payment to the bloggers raises some obvious conflict-of-interest problems. Ad payments duck that issue but create a freeloader problem - if candidates A and B advertise on MyDD or BlueJersey or whatever, it will benefit Democrats/liberas by allowing the blogs to get more done but the benefit will be spread out over all the candidates supported by the blog.

You might be able to convince candidates to participate via an ad+guestblog system. Guestblogs can generate a lot of interest in a campaign and this could be linked to a contantly changing set of ads linking to position papers, event updates and the like at the candidates/organizations site. The DNC had a nice platformish set of positions early on in 2006 that never got much air - ads and guestblogs for it would really have helped.

Writing ads that appeal to blog readers is important, and neglected. Blog readers want hot-off-the-presses news, lively discussions, and links to stick into their own stuff. Advertising on blogs, such as it is, tends to be bland links to donation pages or slowly-changing homepages, which is odd given that I eagerly read stuff from the candidates or workers in their campaign, like (on dKos) Rook, Sarah Carter, or John Conyers.

Unfortunately there's still a freeloader problem, in that 90% of the benefit could be gotten just by guestblogs, with no ad payments. My idea for addressing that is that the $$$ to keep a couple of lively blogs going is rather small compared to the extraordinarily large expenditures of modern campaigning. I know most politician are self-centered and greedy but there have to be some who are willing to cough up $10000/campaign to groups that generate them far more than that in benefits even if they'd get the benefits without paying.

by curtadams 2006-11-18 10:43AM | 0 recs
Re: Funding MyDD

I don't have any suggestions about the larger problem, but in regard to funding the site, you might consider the Sluggy Freelance model.  It's a webcomic whose creator originally got most of his revenue from ads, but has moved over time to getting the majority of it from subscriptions to "ad-free Sluggy."  You pay an annual fee ($25 in the case of Sluggy, but I'd be willing to pay considerably more than that for MyDD) and when you enter the site as a logged-in subscriber, the ads don't appear.

More generally, setting up a non-profit that makes grants to blogs might be a good way of funding the netroots; such an organization would be better positioned to solicit funds from wealthy donors and other sources such as Working Assets.

by Alex 2006-11-18 12:58PM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking About Bad Incentives
I really don't see why you can't specify what the money is to be used for.  Since we are the ones giving the money -- we can set the conditions.
I see no problem with that.  If we know they have the bad D.C. consultants on board, perhaps we should skip those candidates for fundraising purposes-- or at least be transparent about it and let us know.  We should tag the clients we know are wasting money on bad consultants, but perhaps recommend making contributions to them for clearly-stated purposes only.  The people who are donating five and ten and twenty dollars deserve to have that knowledge, to make that choice, and to determine how their money is spent.
by syolles 2006-11-18 03:48PM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking About Bad Incentives

Suggestion:  Since there is no Consumer Reports for consultants, why not start one?  Maybe start it here at MyDD, with the long-term goal of spinning it off into its own site.

My loose idea: come up with some metrics to measure the quality of a candidate, establish a team of experienced professionals to judge and rank the consultants.

I've only sketched some pretty broad strokes here. Anyone else want to take this up and fill in the details?

by gas28man 2006-11-18 07:51PM | 0 recs

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