Democratic Lead Holding, As Is My Paranoia

From the always excellent Political Arthimetik, here is Charles Franklin's graph of the average generic congressional ballot during this election cycle:



The current Democratic advantage of just over 11% is within 1% of being as good for Democrats as it has ever been this cycle. It is also chock full of likely voter models, which were supposed to be good for Republicans. Further, it includes all generic ballot polls except, I believe, the new one from Newsweek, which let's us know the following:Democrats now outdistance Republicans on every single issue that could decide voters' choices come Nov. 7. In addition to winning--for the first time in the NEWSWEEK poll--on the question of which party is more trusted to fight the war on terror (44 to 37 percent) and moral values (42 percent to 36 percent), the Democrats now inspire more trust than the GOP on handling Iraq (47 to 34); the economy (53 to 31); health care (57 to 24); federal spending and the deficit (53 to 29); gas and oil prices (56 to 23); and immigration (43 to 34). Democrats are way ahead, likely voter polls are not bailing out Republicans, and Democrats now lead in every issue area, including the ultimate Republican issue strongholds, "moral values" and "terrorism." This leaves Republicans with only one remaining advantage, money. Yesterday, the NRCC dumped $7.8M into 30 House districts, 27 of them held by Republicans. Of course, even when it comes to this advantage, Democrats have closed the gap significantly compared to previous elections.

Two months ago, I warned everyone to be prepared for Republicans to close the gap during this election. So far, that hasn't happened, as right now, the situation for Democrats looks just as good, if not better, than it did in mid-August. My long nagging feeling that the election is going to get closer has gradually faded, and it is now being replaced with a strange antsy feeling that things almost look too good. I'm used to watching elections where Democrats are trying to squeeze out a narrow victory, and I'm not really sure what to do, how to react, or even how to feel now that we have this absolutely huge advantage. It makes me think that there must be something I am missing which indicates that Democrats are not actually up be the ridiculous amounts we see from current numbers.

If nothing else, I think this feeling shows just how severely the 2000, 2002, and 2004 elections have scarred the Democratic psyche, and just how much worse things will get if we don't win this year. I am supposed to be one of our biggest cheerleaders when it comes to our election chances, but even I have a hard time believing that we are way ahead and on track to take Congress, no matter what the numbers show. This mentality could be an advantage, in that it keeps us paranoid enough to take nothing for granted and to continue working our butts off all the way until Election Day.

However, if we do have a huge victory on November 7th, I won't be in the least bit disappointed to bid this "we are going to lose" paranoia good bye. I can't stand always having my gut and the back of my mind telling me that we are going to lose. I also desperately want validation for all of the progress we have made since 2002 as both a movement and as a party. We have to win just so we can all believe again that we can win, and so that we know that all of the work we put into this is worth it. If things don't go well on November 7th, it is hard to imagine just how crippling it will be to our morale as a movement and as a party. We can't let that happen. We need to prove to ourselves that we really do have the power to change this country for the better.

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The instant we landslide on Nov 7.

We need to be out there proclaiming a Democratic Majority for the next Generation. So what if it's hot air? It needs to be out there.

"We have seen how modern Republicans govern--they can't. Their failiures are so extreme they must be given the time to purge themselves of these cancers and the money that metastasizes them."

by MNPundit 2006-10-07 01:56PM | 0 recs
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I share your quease.

The reason for the queasiness, in my case at least, is that for the most part the Democratic Party (at least its most visible leaders) are barely different in name or in style than those that delivered 2000, 2002, or 2004.  (Howard Dean is the notable exception to that claim; but he's doing the electioneering, not the policy/direction/vision thing.)  So it's a quite reasonable worry that they'll blow it.  (It goes with that saying about doing the same thing repeatedly, and expecting a different result.)

What's most obviously different about this year is that the Republican's jig is up, so to speak, whether or not the Democrats have done anything to facilitate this result.  You can only be so venal and incompetent for so long before someone starts to notice.  This seems to be a year when the Republicans have conveniently committed hari kiri in a most public fashion, and as next in line, the Democrats stand to gain, if they don't get the urge to do themselves in as well.

Of course, Dean and the net roots are also a new thing this year (relatively speaking), and this does deserve at least some credit for the change in fortune.  Yet, it's hard to predict that the net roots will provide a continuing significant advantage over the Republicans long-term.  (I'd sure like to be optimistic about this, but I suspect that there's really no permanent advantage to be gained for progressives on the internet.)  At any rate, it does feel a bit like we should gather our roses while they're there for the plucking.

But the smell of the roses also generates a quandary:  should we start thinking about what to do in power (as Pelosi has just now started to do, it seems), or should we stay focused on victory, and hope that someone who has a clue will know what to do if they succeed come January.  The advantage of starting to think about policy now is that those who speak out and say what the Democrats stand for now is better positioned to step up into the policy-making that will eventually be done (if not in 2006-07, then in 2008 and beyond).  Getting the jump on making policy is important in the same way that getting a jump on an election is important:  change takes time, and them more done to organize around new ideas, get them into the MSM, and create coalitions around them, the better the chance of enacting them later, and to do so with some integrity, rather than as a PR stunt.

But starting to think policy now raises worries about alienating anyone who isn't just simply disgusted with the Republicans, and creating dissent within the ranks.  (Right now, Democrats are as unified as they can be, since they have essentially one message:  We're not those guys.  And everyone can agree about that.  Well, almost everyone coughJoeLiebermancough.)  So there are real risks in acting responsibly right now and trying to plan for leadership, rather than just trying to stay out of the way of the Republican debacle.

So, take some Xanax, and maybe for a day or two allow yourself to believe it.

And don't forget:  MyDD and you guys who run it are partly to blame (a small part, but not inconsiderable) for the fact that optimism is not unwarranted at this point in time.  You are changing the game, at least for now.  So embrace your queasiness.

Ump.

by Umpteenth 2006-10-07 02:32PM | 0 recs
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But the smell of the roses also generates a quandary:  should we start thinking about what to do in power (as Pelosi has just now started to do, it seems), or should we stay focused on victory, and hope that someone who has a clue will know what to do if they succeed come January.

First catch the ball.  Then run with it.

by KTinOhio 2006-10-07 03:55PM | 0 recs
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I almost wish I agreed with you. Tempering optimism is a long habit of mine.

But I don't. I think Reid is a fairly significant difference from Daschle. Same with Pelosi. Not saying I am a huge fan of either, but they are different from what came before.

The big point I disagree with is the assertion that progressives won't maintain an advantage over Republicans over the internet. I think, just as talk radio is a perfect medium for ignorant GOP blow-hards, the Internet is perfect for the power-sharing, networking, reality-based discussing, and just general kvetching that progressives are good at. It's not quite "the medium is the message," but "what medium carries which message the best?" Unless the Internet is fundamentally changed (ummm, maybe by ending net neutrality?), progressives will continue to be the powerful voice on the Internet.

by BriVT 2006-10-07 06:07PM | 0 recs
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When the GOP is drowning, throw it an anvil.

I've got an idea about that, too.

You know the GOP's evangelical base has been most discouraged by the Foley scandal.  Why don't we find something else to bum them out about the GOP?

Keith Olbermann's just given us the ticket: Bush is a liar.

Except that needs re-framing for the fundie crowd.  So let's put it in religious language:

Bush has been bearing false witness about himself, about the Democrats, and a whole bunch of other things.  (Read or watch Olbermann for the details.)

As in "Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness" which is one of the Ten Commandments they try to post in public places.

If I took a few good bong hits, I could imagine one of the Dems' Morality Squad (Obama, perhaps; I think I'd need LSD to imagine Lieberman) condemning Bush in those terms.  And if they did, putting a commercial with them saying that in heavy rotation on 'Christian' radio might just feel to them like Bush had tossed them an anvil.

The more we can drive down the enthusiasm and increase the depression of GOP-leaning evangelical voters, the more their GOTV network falls apart, and the greater our chances to win victories in truly surprising places.

by RT 2006-10-07 02:32PM | 0 recs
How about this for another "anchor"
I've been "googling" for info on an article and found this Cheney speech from '91:
I think that the proposition of going to Baghdad is also fallacious. I think if we were going to remove Saddam Hussein we would have had to go all the way to Baghdad, we would have to commit a lot of force because I do not believe he would wait in the Presidential Palace for us to arrive. I think we'd have had to hunt him down. And once we'd done that and we'd gotten rid of Saddam Hussein and his government, then we'd have had to put another government in its place.
What kind of government? Should it be a Sunni government or Shi'i government or a Kurdish government or Ba'athist regime? Or maybe we want to bring in some of the Islamic fundamentalists? How long would we have had to stay in Baghdad to keep that government in place? What would happen to the government once U.S. forces withdrew? How many casualties should the United States accept in that effort to try to create clarity and stability in a situation that is inherently unstable?
I think it is vitally important for a President to know when to use military force. I think it is also very important for him to know when not to commit U.S. military force. And it's my view that the President got it right both times, that it would have been a mistake for us to get bogged down in the quagmire inside Iraq. -- Dick Cheney 4/29/1991
by momoaizo 2006-10-07 03:13PM | 0 recs
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"If nothing else, I think this feeling shows just how severely the 2000, 2002, and 2004 elections have scarred the Democratic psyche, and just how much worse things will get if we don't win this year."

Maybe your psyche is scarred, Mr. Bowers, but not mine.  On Election Day in 2004, when Kerry lost, I was sad for our troops and all of the people who were going to be killed by George Bush's policies, but I wasn't sad for the Democratic Party.  It takes long, slow, protracted tides for the great mass of American voters to see what perhaps you and I see sooner.  And in 2004 the mainstream voters in this country still didn't understand how completely corrupt and incompetent this administration was.  Now they do.

Think for a moment what would have happened if Kerry had won.  All that's happening now would still have taken place, but the Republican spin machine would have blamed the Democrats.  Kerry's narrow loss gave Republicans nowhere to hide, and for that I'm forever grateful.

Elections are not metrics.  They're snapshots that can unfortunately have terrible real world implications.  The goal of the Democratic Party should not be winning snapshots, it should be projecting a vision of the country that is in tune with what voters want and need.  In doing that, the elections will take care of themselves.

by MarkB 2006-10-07 02:33PM | 0 recs
I'm right there with you Chris

We need to win, America NEEDS the Dems to win.  I want them to win so bad that I have had knots in my stomach for weeks.  Don't see that changing till November 8th.  

After the loss in '04, took me a week to get out of bed I was sooo depressed.  Please, oh please, let America wake up this time!

by momoaizo 2006-10-07 02:33PM | 0 recs
Re: I'm right there with you Chris

I wasn't quite that bad off, but I was depressed for several weeks afterwards.  I remember doing a lot of stuff like cleaning the basement to keep my mind off of it.

And it's still quite real, even if we win big this November.  With Bush still in the White House, we still won't be able to do anything about global warming.  We can block his worst judiciary picks, but we can't force him to nominate someone decent.  We can't force him to undo the tax cuts, except for those that actually expire in the next two years.

But at least we can show what a total fuckup he's been, and make him veto good legislation until his veto pen runs out of ink.

by RT 2006-10-07 04:00PM | 0 recs
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Chris,

You're one of the good guys. I've loved reading your analyses of this election. As you may have noticed, my own analyses have been more optimistic than yours. But I come here everyday just to read what you think is going on.

I agree it's a strange feeling given the political climate over the past 10 years - beginning with Clinton's impeachment. We were always on the defensive. Be it the impeachment; or Bush's "inevitable" election victory in 2000 (remember what the pundits said then with Bush's consistant 15 to 20% lead in 1999 and the first half of 2000?); September 11; the 2004 election; etc. This is so strange because WE ARE CONSISTANTLY LEADING. Our message is getting through and people still support us. The curtain has been pulled back and wizard has been exposed.

I'm too young to remember most of the re-alignment type elections...but I do remember 1994. That was the first campaign I volunteered in (for Mario Cuomo in NY). This is just reminding me of that - but in reverse. We're winning in places where we have no buisness being ahead. That's what happened in 1994. The post-mortums of the election will almost certainly focus on Mark Foley, but, in my opinion, the anti-Republican feeling goes much, much deeper.

The Republican Party is beginning to smell like death. Don't let CQ, Stu Rothesberg (sp?), or any other Washington oddsmaker freak you out. This is going to be a BIG ONE for the good guys. I just feel it in my bones.

by JackBourassa 2006-10-07 02:36PM | 0 recs
My two bits...

I'm just telling my fellow local Dems who keep telling me about these stats, "Look, first beat these mothers to death with the biggest bat you got for as long as you can.  Act like we're ten points behind no matter what until after Election Day - then you can relax."

At least a few are following my advice.  ;-)

by palamedes 2006-10-07 02:39PM | 0 recs
Re: My two bits...

That's the idea.

This really comes down to can the Dem's "close."  In other endevours (sports, etc.) this happens all the time - one team is up by a lot but can't seem to put the other team away.  When this happens, the team that "blew it" is blamed for being inexperienced or having bad coaching.  Of course, sometimes the lead is so great that even these defects aren't enough to  snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.  I hope that's the situation with this election.  
By that i mean, that although the individual candidates are good this cycle and there are plenty of issues to run against or on, the "coaches" (democratic leadership) has been pretty poor.  And while item #1 is to push hard and make sure that this doesn't prevent victory this cycle.  It's something that needs to be addressed in the long term or the Dem's will only win when the "hit the trifecta."

by DanD 2006-10-07 04:17PM | 0 recs
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Re: Great Generic Campaign Ads

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by Ms Bluezone 2006-10-07 03:43PM | 0 recs
My own paranoia.....

...will subside considerably if some new polls would show all four CT races breaking out way.

by adamterando 2006-10-07 03:12PM | 0 recs
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"and I'm not really sure what to do, how to react, or even how to feel now that we have this absolutely huge advantage."

You keep playing hard to the final whistle. Mentally ignore the score board and pretend its neck and neck to keep you motivated.

Or as Kos would say, when opponents flailing "throw them an anchor."

A progressive agenda is not going anywhere unless you learn how to, and get used to winning big. Small victory margins are not enough.

by stillworkingitout 2006-10-07 03:12PM | 0 recs
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I remember in 92, to avoid getting overconfident, Clinton and his campaign kept saying they were acting as if they were always 5 points behind in the polls.  That seemed and seems like a good mentality.

by Sandwich Repairman 2006-10-07 03:14PM | 0 recs
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The thing is, if the election were this Tuesday, we'd probably win in a landslide.  Problem is that the election's not Tuesday.

Boy, am I glad this isn't like Great Britain.

by Tom 2006-10-07 08:18PM | 0 recs
Election Night preparation

Ok, I realize I'm kind of jumping the gun here, but to try and stay ahead of things--in part because the MSM gives NO coverage to House races other than aggregate numbers (since they're so bloody ignorant of politics and government)--I want to compile a list of when the polls close in each state.  I'm happy to share that, but before I do the legwork, I'm wondering if someone knows of such a list somewhere already?  I think IN & KY are usually the first states to close, at 6pm Eastern, but then I'm uncertain which time zone applies where in Indiana now that Gov. Daniels has messed it all up.

by Sandwich Repairman 2006-10-07 03:12PM | 0 recs
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I don't know where you can find a complete list, but you can do it state by state.

Polls in North Carolina close at 7:30 PM ET.

by Bear83 2006-10-07 04:13PM | 0 recs
I'm Not Sure I Could Agree More Strongly

Great post, Chris.

by Jonathan Singer 2006-10-07 03:17PM | 0 recs
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I also suffer from that knot-in-the-stomach-walking-on-eggs feeling, and hope it goes away on Nov. 8, along with a large number of Republican lawmakers.

I further hope we win by a large enough margin to void any ballot tinkering by the opposition, which means we must woo the independents to our side in large numbers, as we marshall our fellow Democrats to the polls. To this end, I am pledging to paper my cars bumpers with stickers that will not insult the opposition, or those on the fence. I just bought enough bumper stickers to get me through the elections in November. I plan on changing them each week, in the hopes that one of them will strike a chord with an independent, and favorably influence their vote. We gain nothing by smart-alec put-downs of the opposition.

I also hope we can show humility if we win. The Republican gloating the last few years is going to look rather petty when they leave Washington with their collective tails between their legs.

And woe betide the Democrat who gives any indication of, "Now it's my turn!" payback instead of directly going about the People's business.

Let's show that we're bigger than they are.

Power to the People!

by cadaverdog 2006-10-07 03:40PM | 0 recs
Exactly...

And woe betide the Democrat who gives any indication of, "Now it's my turn!" payback instead of directly going about the People's business.

No matter what the Republican senators or congressmen deserve, the American people deserve thoughtful, compassionate, fair-minded leadership.

by KTinOhio 2006-10-07 04:29PM | 0 recs
GOTV, absentee voting

How come I fear that GOP will still win because of their superior GOTV apparatus.  In Maryland Ehrlich is doing phone calls encouraging people to vote absentee ballot.  Imagine--if there is organized absentee ballots he could potentially win against O Malley.

by jasmine 2006-10-07 04:20PM | 0 recs
A mandate, not a win
All the signs are pointing to a victory in November. Yet I'm paranoid about the scenario of a squeaker victory, or a Senate win with Lieberman still there.
With a demoralized republican base, it is imperative that we conclude the campaign with our strongest ground game ever, so that people know that this was not just a fluke election.
Let's do everything we can to turn out the vote big time, and let's wake up a day after the election knowing that in spite of all the vote suppression and manipulation, we captured the chambers by margins that were larger than anyone would have forecast six months ago.
Then let's turn our attention to being the party of accountability and responsibility. That's leadership.
by camilow 2006-10-07 04:22PM | 0 recs
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Nyah nyah, I called it.  :)

by Matt Stoller 2006-10-07 04:28PM | 0 recs
The past gives us plenty of reasons to embrace

pessimism, but there is certainly reason for optimism as well.  At no point in the 2000, 2002, or 2004 election cycles were we measurably this far ahead at this point in the game.  Even 1998, which was considered a quite successful year for Democrats.  If we get it right, America could be a much better place.  

by gobacktotexas 2006-10-07 04:33PM | 0 recs
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The thing is, the NRCC dropped $7.8 million -- but 90 percent of the House districts they put money into are districts they already hold.  Is there a list of these districts?  There may be a few districts that they're already conceding (like, say, AZ-08.)  29 of Chuck Todd's top 30 most likely districts to change hands are Republican-held seats, with IA-03 (Boswell) checking in at #30.

Right now, the GOP is conceding that they're going to lose seats in the House and are doing their best to cut their losses.  The Congressional session passed without them getting in a wedge issue that they can pin on us.  That's been the key for them in the past two elections: get a vote on some issue where public opinion favors them and crucify Democrats for trying to stop it.  That's not going to happen this time around.

All of our candidates need to be aggressive right now and go in for the kill.  Let the voters know that the Republican majority in Washington is driving the country into the ground and that their Congressman is part of the problem.  I know I pointed out during the CA-50 special election earlier this year that voters don't just have to know that Congress is doing a bad job; they need to know that their Congressman is part of the problem or they're not going to throw him out.

by Tom 2006-10-07 05:07PM | 0 recs
So...

When we win will you being doing a little 'jig' naked on a bar stoool somewhere with Kos?  
Not that I really want to see that but it would be a fitting punishment for the negative words and vibes from the two of you.   ;)

Here's to some good vibes and a GREAT election outcome for the Democratic party and for all of the citzens of this country and the world!

Drink up and practice your bar stool dancing... OK?!

by kevin22262 2006-10-07 05:12PM | 0 recs
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So, when do we get a nice line graph of your paranoia level?

by dwbh 2006-10-07 06:40PM | 0 recs
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1) The Republicans still count the votes; a lot of races are going to be within the 5% necessary for them to throw them to their own candidates.

2) There is no indication whatsoever that a Democratic win will do anything other than make the Party complicit in Republican thuggishness.  I honestly have no idea why one would celebrate a Democratic takeover of the House or Senate under current circumstances; since Bush's insanity regularly passes with large majorities, and since, based on their questioning of Roberts and Alito, those Dems charged with oversight are stupid, venal, and weak, all a Dem victory does is spread the blame around.

There's no point in winning when you can't do anything with it.  I'm staying home this November, for the first time in my life.

by Kimmitt 2006-10-07 06:52PM | 0 recs
I deal with expectation and outcomes every day

in sports.

Everything tends to drift back to the beginning. I learned that 20 years ago and it's why I'm reserved about November expectation. The long-ago political basics regarding 2006 were:

* too many gerrymandered seats for a huge House wave in either direction

* the Senate playing field is in red states.

Show me how that's changed. We will undoubtedly make big gains but on progressive sites the mindset is like parlay bettors, expecting everything to fall one way or the other. I'm always trying to restrain a private chuckle when someone lists 15 or 20 House seats in which Democrats lead at least one poll, sometimes by a point or two, and the number is added up as if it's a certainty all of them are cemented our way.

Thats's not reality or even modestly sensible. I can find a parlay card for tomorrow's NFL games with 6 outcomes, theoretically 50/50 scenarios, and the sportsbooks willing to give me 55/1 by aligning all 6 to tumble in the same direction. That's not much different than expecting 6 true tossups to each fall our way. Yeah, we can summon old quotes from Cook or Rothenberg regarding seats falling in one direction, but try putting it in action in a polarized era with both sides prioritizing congressional control. I simply refuse to believe it works that way, especially since House polling is sparse and not necessarily reliable, and in the Senate where the necessity is sweeping red regions like Ohio, Missouri and Tennessee, with Virginia a nice backup plan.

In 2004 the early diagnosis was Bush as an incumbent with his party in power only one term had a decisive advantage, 8 of 9 re-election successes since 1900 in that scenario. Plus he had 9/11 and national security fear as allies. Democrats spent the bulk of 2004 wanting to pretend those factors did not apply. The optimism in 2004 was always unwarranted. In 2006 it is valid but current levels, IMO, are bloated. Kind of like Tiger fans expecting a blowout over the Yankees. Hey, I'm not asserting it can't happen.:)

by Gary Kilbride 2006-10-07 07:06PM | 0 recs
Re: I deal with expectation and outcomes every day

I can't agree more.

By the way, I hate the generic "up or down"-"Dem or Rep" poll.  That means absolutely nothing to me.  Show me at least twenty races where the polls (multiple polls that is) show the Dem crushing the Rep in their respective seats.  Then I would be getting really excited.  All I have seen are these "toss ups."  I am at best cautiously optimistic (please stress the cautiously) with all of this.

by Gabe 2006-10-07 07:33PM | 0 recs
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Is it my imagination, or isn't every single one of those data points above the red zero line -- i.e. shows a Democratic victory?

That said, there is one big advantage the Thugs have besides their ill-gotten moolah. Their guys control the defective voting machines which have been installed throughout the country, thanks to the Right to Swing the Votes Act. I think there is a pretty good chance that there will be many of them with little enough morals and a few of them with enough skill to swing a few counties and maybe states. We will probably see the phenomenon of 20% of the voters in some places changing their mind about who to vote for to the Thug candidate immediately before pulling the lever, and changing their minds back immediately afterward, in time for the exit poll. We should expect this, and be ready to fight it every way we can.

Now, I don't see them managing to swing many of the state and local elections, where we are likely to get the real Democratic landslide.

by Hong Kong Chevy 2006-10-07 09:14PM | 0 recs
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Pardon my math--that would be only 5% who would have to "change their minds" to erase a 10% lead. Without paper trails, it's been shown to be possible for one person to do this in less than a minute. How do we fight this?

by Hong Kong Chevy 2006-10-07 09:55PM | 0 recs
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I agree with Gabe, generic polls are meaningless.  Voters always want to 'throw the bums out' but that means the bum in some other district.  They like their own 'bum'.  

What will democrats do when they win? Other than raise the minimum wage?  Will anything really change?  
If not then who cares?  Why should the democrat based be fired up to vote?  To prove some point or other?

The election is a month way, that's YEARS in political time.  

Don't count your eggs before they chicken out.  

by Denton56 2006-10-07 09:45PM | 0 recs
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I share Chris Bower's paranoia, but for a different reason: electoral fraud.  Given the investigations that a Democratic held House would conduct on the Republicans, even if it doesn't really want to, too many in the Republican leadership has to prevent this to keep from going to jail.  Electoral fraud is now just too easy and there are too many incentives for the Republicans to commit it.

Given the large Democratic lead in the generic ballot polls, and now in specific races, the fact that we've had one Republican Congressman resign for bribery and another for pedophia (actually sexual harrassment, but the headlines say pedophila), the collapse of the housing bubble (it was the collapse of the internet bubble that really did in Gore's campaign), continued depressing news from the Middle East, etc., I'm pretty much convinced now that if the Republicans do keep control of the House, it will confirm my view that electoral fraud is being perpetrated on a wider scale than at any time in our history.  But it will be spun in the media as an amazing comeback, and all sorts of specious reasons advanced for the Republicans turning things around.

However, I think the most likely scenario is that the Democrats win a narrow majority in the House, say 220-215, then just enough Democrats switch parties for the Republicans to keep control.  Or there are alot of people trying to find dirt on Pelosi.  But I'm too shellshocked from the last six years to believe that the Republicans will actually lose one.

by Michels 2006-10-08 02:19AM | 0 recs
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I like Glenn Greenwald's take on it:  an intelligent designer is behind the Foley scandal, so obviously S/He is on our side.  

http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/ 10/does-foley-scandal-prove-existence-of .html

But seriously, I hope we don't fall into the media/pollster trap of watching the horse race rather than doing so much GOTV that even Diebold can't mess up the victory.  (And in the case of shady results, I hope the netroots people lead a massive uproar, unlike in 2000 and 2004.  We cannot allow our gov't to be stolen again.)  

Meanwhile, we just have to get people to the polls, the old-fashioned way--rides to the polls, phonebanks, canvassing, etc.

by chiefscribe 2006-10-08 11:32AM | 0 recs
Re: Democratic Lead Holding, As Is My Paranoia

"Certainly can't do anything WORSE than what Republicans have done,"

That's the problem -- they can.  If the Dems take control of the House or the Senate, and then do nothing with it, we've lost what little status we have as an opposition party.  Torture as US policy passing with a Republican House, Senate, and President is bad.  Torture as US policy passing with a Democratic House or Senate is even worse.

by Kimmitt 2006-10-08 11:59AM | 0 recs

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