Liberal/Conservative Blogospheres in the New York Times

You all know about the hubbub from E&P on the 'are conservative blogs better' sneak peak of a Sunday Times piece.  Well that piece is out. Michael Crowley wrote it..
When the liberal activist Matt Stoller was running a blog for the Democrat Jon Corzine's 2005 campaign for governor, he saw the power of the conservative blogosphere firsthand. Shortly before the election, a conservative Web site claimed that politically damaging information about Corzine was about to surface in the media. It didn't. But New Jersey talk-radio shock jocks quoted the online speculation, inflicting public-relations damage on Corzine anyway. To Stoller, it was proof of how conservatives have mastered the art of using blogs as a deadly campaign weapon.

That might sound counterintuitive. After all, the Howard Dean campaign showed the power of the liberal blogosphere. And the liberal-activist Web site DailyKos counts hundreds of thousands of visitors each day. But Democrats say there's a key difference between liberals and conservatives online. Liberals use the Web to air ideas and vent grievances with one another, often ripping into Democratic leaders. (Hillary Clinton, for instance, is routinely vilified on liberal Web sites for supporting the Iraq war.) Conservatives, by contrast, skillfully use the Web to provide maximum benefit for their issues and candidates. They are generally less interested in examining every side of every issue and more focused on eliciting strong emotional responses from their supporters.

But what really makes conservatives effective is their pre-existing media infrastructure, composed of local and national talk-radio hosts like Rush Limbaugh, the Fox News Channel and sensationalist say-anything outlets like the Drudge Report - all of which are quick to pass on the latest tidbit from the blogosphere. "One blogger on the Republican side can have a real impact on a race because he can just plug right into the right-wing infrastructure that the Republicans have built," Stoller says.

Lowell Feld at Raising Kaine tackles this question on the Virginia blogs.

Liberal blogs are way more important than conservative blogs, as I've said here.  Right-wing blogs are an adjunct to a powerful right-wing message machine.  By contrast, we are all there is on our side.  For instance, John Amato at Crooks and Liars is profiled today in the LA Times.  His video blog is quite innovative, and is a tonic to right-wing distortions.  That kind of innovation simply does not happen on their side.  Still, it'll be a few years for us.  We can't even fund Actblue's attempt to do state-level fundraising. We should be embarrassed, since no one's been better to us than Actblue.  (Of course, if you want to prove me wrong, give $100 to Actblue; the legal costs of Actblue'ing a state are $10,000.)

Anyway, feel free to bitch at me here about what I said to Crowley.  

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you were right
Some people somewhere in the blogosphere will attack you for saying true things in an article about blogs. They will be wrong, and you will (still) be right. Kevin Drum points out today that if you write an article about blogs saying anything, the entire blogosphere will descend upon you in wrath: he's probably right--- but it's Crowley's prob, not yours.
by accommodatingly 2005-12-11 08:34AM | 0 recs
I don't see anything wrong with what
you said.  Maybe we do need to watch the personal attacks and pull together at certain times, but I like the idea that we are capable of and promote original thought.

I don't think it makes conservative blogs better.  They are conduits for a message and the message is always the same.

 

by The Southern Dem 2005-12-11 09:16AM | 0 recs
Actblue
Actblue's state level fundraising effort needs a big donor to cut a $500,000 check.  I love their idea, but I don't believe that the grassroots thinks their money is spent the best in that manner.

The idea of convincing the grassroots to give $10,000 a state to be able to give more money is counter-intuitive.  While $10,000 may not be much money for local candidates in California, here in Kansas $10,000 could swing several races.

Like I said, I love their idea and the way they have empowered the blogosphere.  I just don't think their donation model for expanding their reach is going to work.  Hopefully I'm wrong.

by KansasNate 2005-12-11 09:42AM | 0 recs
Re: Actblue
Well clearly it isn't working, but that it doesn't work shows the blogosphere simply does not fund strategic priorities.
by Matt Stoller 2005-12-11 01:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Actblue
Whatever happened to the much-publicized democracy alliance funding of "progressive voices"?
by rba 2005-12-12 12:39PM | 0 recs
Sounds like you're both right.
Conservatives define success as winning.
Progressives define success as good government.

Under the Conservative definition, Conservative blogs are better. Under the Progressive definition, Progressive blogs are better.

Problem solved.

Now I just wish the public would get pissed off at the idea of an entire party that defines success by blind victory, but that's mostly how life works in this country. Several chapters in my sociology books explain how Americans leave morality and intangible contributions out of their senses of self-worth. So all we have to judge ourselves on is winning, or getting rich. But broad political circles, corporatization, and globalization all require many more levels of stratifications than society is used to. Today many more must lose so that a few can win.

So we'll do anything to win, some aspire to be drug dealers, mafia dons, gang leaders. Even those who don't are oddly complacent about this culture of corruption, and very few seem disappointed in this entire half (idealogically speaking) of the blogosphere dedicated to nothing but winning, and proud of itself for it.

by msnook 2005-12-11 10:33AM | 0 recs
Threading on Blogosphere

There are simple trends: The GOP usually endorses, or sends money towards bloggers who ally with the military, in some way shape or form.

It is a false alliance - the discussion regarding technology is usually their prime target.

But we are waging a high tech war, against a low tech foe.

Case in point: a week ago or so, a hellfire missile was used against an IED location with success.  The bloggers were happy about it.  One in particular complained that the Mainstream media refuses to report such success.

Bringing you up to date, for a second, this same set of bloggers are now gearing up for a major "white flag democrats campaign" - note how well coordinated the party line is with their missives..

At any rate, back to the future - we've got these accounts with all this glow.

But its a 200,000.00 hellfire missile detonated on a 27.54 IED.

-=-

Thinking for a second about the war (after all, if we're safe and sound over here, we might as well help the boys over there aim..) - you can easily come to the conclusion that you've got a shadow enemy. Best way to get rid of him, is as McCain says - we have to win a war of ideas. America cannot be seen to stand for Torture, as Dick Cheney would have us.

There is a great weakness here to exploit. The weakness of that conservative blogosphere is that most of its members are really taking talking points drop ea. morning in their email.

Intercept their mail stream.

And just a footnote, but an important one: get the  
terrorists. Democrats need to be fighting the same war that our founding fathers fought - the GOP are Tories, sympathizers with the real enemy. Dems can win the war on terror - just send me Joe Biden back from Afghanistan or Pakistan with Bin Laden's head on a plate. That'll do it.

by turnerbroadcasting 2005-12-12 05:04AM | 0 recs

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