Post-Election Thoughts

I have a difficult time knowing what to write. During my adult life, victory has been unusual and very localized for Democrats. I was 18 in 1992, but since our victory that November, it has been pretty much continuously downhill for progressives. I believed that both Corzine and Kaine would win. I believed that every California ballot measure would do down to defeat. I believed that Democrats would do well in most local races around the country. I believed all of that before it happened, but now that it has happened, I have a difficult time processing it. I think the reason I have a difficult time processing it is because we didn't actually win, but we did achieve the first the first step toward victory. For the first time in a while, the conservative agenda was resoundingly rejected at the ballot box.

And man, was it ever rejected. Republicans are going to have to come up with a new playbook considering 2005. As Stoller noted to me over email:

Also, this New Jersey victory, in particular the margin and the fact that we picked up Assembly seats in a year where the main issue was property taxes, is a big deal. If a right-wing smear campaign doesn't work in a high tax environment after the Democratic party had a Governor resign in disgrace after a gay sex and corruption scandal, then the right-wing needs a new formula. As Schumer noted in his press release:Kaine's win takes on all the more significance given the fact that Republicans threw their best shots at him - including attacks on the death penalty, tax increases, and immigration. Kaine also won by about a 6% margin of over 100,000 votes in the face of the Republicans' much-vaunted voter turnout operation - and despite, or because of, Bush's late campaign visit for Jerry Kilgore. As Jerome wrote to me over email: The biggest story to come out of this isn't the Gov win, but the knocking out of the most strident rightwingers in the delegate races, both by independents and by democrats. A huge boomerang against Norquist. Ken Mehlman was at Allen & Kilgore's speech, and what a wierd guy, he's sorta like a robot. Anyway, he was visably pissed. I think all three of them are correct. I think what happened yesterday is the result of conservative Republicans believing their own falsified "mandate" hype. They somehow believed that 2004 gave them a mandate similar to those enjoyed by Democrats from 1932-1978. They believed that with turnout and a message directed at their base, they would continue to win elections indefinitely, much in the same way that Democrats did for decades. The problem for Republicans is that the Republican base was never a mandate, never a majority like the Democratic base was. For decades, Democrats were able to focus on turnout and a message directed to their base because Democrats outnumber Republicans 2-1 nationally in terms of partisan self-identification. However, right now, Republican partisan self-identification is still lower than Democratic partisan self-identification (sources here and here), and thus the slightest shift from the 2004 Republican position results in defeat for their coalition.

In this light, the success of the formula that they used in 2004 can be understood as an anomaly. Massive base turnout worked in 2004, but just barely. Further, it also forced them to govern from their base, as their catastrophic failures on Social Security and Miers revealed. They owed their position to extremists, and they had to appease them in order hold their flimsy coalition together. The result has been an entire year of declining approval ratings from for the Republican junta in Washington, and independents moving over to Democrats en masse. There is no room for the Republican coalition to grow. In 2006, the absolute best-case scenario for Republicans will be to hold their ground.

You won't see much talk of a "permanent Republican majority" anymore. That strategy that brought them to power is now revealing its ultimate weakness. If you run a polarizing strategy, you end any possibility of long-term growth for your coalition. You cannot run a strategy designed to destroy our national consensus and then hope that you will one-day hold the national consensus, especially when the other side catches on and starts building their own Noise Machine. The narrow presidential and congressional victories for Republicans from 2000-2004, often secured without even winning the popular vote, represent the apex of the existing Republican governing coalition. There is absolutely no room for this coalition to grow. They have already effectively demonized everyone who is already voting against them (and many people who are voting with them). Bush's approval rating among Democrats and Independents are now identical to Nixon's. They live in a different world with a different reality produced by a different set of media outlets. You can never become a natural governing majority when that is the case. They have rejected reality, and now reality is rejecting them.

The nation is rejecting Republicans. The nation is rejecting the radical conservative message. We should not have done this well last night considering the problems within our own party and our own leadership, but it is very, very hard to run as a Republican right now. They had the flimsiest, most narrow governing majority in the history of the country. Despite this, they believed their own talking points and thought they had an overwhelming mandate. Well, the gig is up conservatives. The nation is not to you. If you continue to govern in the same extremist, polarizing, and incompetent manner of the past five years any longer, come 2006, indictments of your entire leadership will be the least of your worries.

It is November 9th, 2005. Man, I feel pumped. I guess the reason I'm not sure how to react yet is because I still don't know what winning feels like. However, I now have a taste of what defeating Republicans is like. Half of the formula is in place. Now, we have 52 weeks to figure out the second half.

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I remember 1976
I turned 18 in 1975 in the aftermath of Watergate. It was a heady time. We routed the Republicans in the 74 congressional elections and then Carter won in 1976.

But what I learned most from that period was never to rest on your laurels, never assume the job is done, never take anything for granted, never for a moment think you can let up.

Because a mere four years later Carter was repudiated and the GOP scored a shocking takeover of the Senate.

The history of the last 50 years or so has demonstrated that the public swings back and forth with regularity. So when the swing is coming back your way you have to work twice as hard to keep it from swinging back away from you.

by Quaoar 2005-11-09 08:32AM | 0 recs
As always
you have to perform. The Republicans are learning that harsh reality now. If they can't win in VIrginia, they can kiss "generational dominance" goodbye.
by Paul Goodman 2005-11-09 12:22PM | 0 recs
Can't Rest Yet
Being somewhat older, I participated and enjoyed many of the victories in the 70's and 80's (I'll conveniently forget about tricky dick and the B movie actor). And while we should enjoy the results of yesterday, it will mean nothing unless we move to retake the House and/or Senate in 06. Democratic leaders must stand up and start talking out loud about the issues important to most Americans, like health care, Social Security, the Iraqi mess, etc. We need a few more like Harry Reid to stoke the fires and throw the bums out.  
by blogus 2005-11-09 08:43AM | 0 recs
We're just getting started
Rest was what happened from 1994 to 2000.
by Paul Goodman 2005-11-09 12:23PM | 0 recs
To Revisit 1932
The New Deal revolution began with anelectoral landslide (FDR got 472 votes) for president, the Democrats took 3 open senate seats and 9 incumbent Republicans were defeated in the Senate Republicans lost 101 seats in the House in 1932. 313 Democrats and 5 Farmer Labor Party (who voted with the Democratic Party) to 117 Republicans.  That is a mandate for structural change. That is the benchmark.

The GOP has never come close to equaling that record. Not RMN in 1972 not Reagan in 1980. And George W. Bush sure as hell as never come close to it.

Its true the GOP currently controls all 3 branches of government and the 4th estate, but  they don't have a mandate for the kind of wholesale change they seek. That's the problem with stealth campaigns crouched in touchy feely terms like compassionate conservative or code phrases like a preference of Justices like Scalia or Thomas (most Americans can tell you those 2 are conservative, but I expect most have no clue as to how far right they are), or code words like faith. You don't win a mandate for structural change.

 Its intelluctually dishonest of the GOP, but they can't get elected any other way. The last time they let the far right openly lead the charge was Pat Buchanan at the 1992 convention. They haven't been eager to do that again.

by molly bloom 2005-11-09 08:43AM | 0 recs
No rest for the weary
We cannot rest now.  We absolutely must carry this momentum into 2006.

This will be a huge wakeup call for the Media.  They realize that Dems can actually win elections, and it will not be in their best interest to prop up this administration.

I will bet anyone that the amount of negative stories regarding republicans will increase dramatically over the next few months.

Thanks to Jerome and Chris for making this website THE place to find out election returns.  I am happy you guys finally got to deliver us some good news for a change!

by agpc 2005-11-09 08:52AM | 0 recs
But the Spin is continuing
Conservative talk Show Hosts (Redundancy) here in Maryland are already spinning  the Kaine victories as such: Kaine is a flaming liberal who won only because he road on the coattails of a conservative who happened to be a Democrat (Warner). This was followed by the usual ilk: "The election was the Republicans to lose, etc. " Kilgore wasn't the best candidate, etc.'

About 80% of your blog pertaining to the long-term faults of the Republican "permanent majority' are thoughts that I have been thinking about the past year. Let me add this:

The core principles that Democrats can win on aren't party-specific. In essence the original Republican Party tenets of liberty, and self-empowerment was only the first steps toward establishing the natural governing principles  of society. Liberty and Empowerment are only words if not backed up by policy and funding. Enter FDR's New Deal and the establishment of the New  Democrat Party. While the present Republican party unites opposing groups on common scare tactics, FDR used the depression and WWII to unify the nation at the core level: economic upliftment. But the cycle wasn't complete because social inequality wouldn't be addressed unitl Kennedy in 1960. This split would give the modern day Republicans the base that they expand from: Disgruntled Democrats (Dixiecrats) ex-klansmen, and social and economic conservatives.  

The fact of the matter is that this country defaults to the Party that looks to increase the greeater good, since at any point in time the poor/blue-collar class makes up the bulk of citizenry. Hell, right now almost 80% of all US households have an combines income of 110K.

The core values of the Democratic party are socialistic in nature. So what? The problem is that when times are good everybody wants to look out for themselves and screw the masses. When times are bad, everybody wants to increase the greater good, since they are the masses.
Well, Dubya is making sure that we have a competitive chance in 2006 and 2008. Let's not screw it up.

If there is one lesson that the repugs can teach us is that all potics are local, and the national message has to be tailored to the local climate.
Pro-choice candidates in conservative areas need to come off as more libertarian than liberal.
Don't be baited by the gay  marriage issue if it's not an issue in your red-state election.
lastly, the Abortion debate is a  trap laid by the Republicans. Either take it off the table by being pro-life, with an agenda of providing alternatives , like the Democrats for Life siggest (knowing full well that the country is 60% pro-choice and Roe isn't being overturned) or take it off the table by being pro-choice and challenging Republicans to take responsibility for all the back-alley abortions that will take place in the Southeastern U.S. if Roe is overturned. Either way, TAKE IT OFF THE TABLE!

By the way, has anybody ever looked at which states went for Nixon and which went for Kennedy ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election,_1960

by Bruticus 2005-11-09 08:57AM | 0 recs
Re: But the Spin is continuing
How bizarre.  Why would the Republicans want to argue that they got beat by a flaming liberal in a Southern state?

The better spin for Republicans, and I don't often give them free advice, was that Kaine only won by presenting himself as GOP-lite on issues like, I dunno, abortion and religion.  I still wouldn't buy it, but it would be more sensible spin for them.

by Steve M 2005-11-09 09:51AM | 0 recs
Re: But the Spin is continuing
The Republicans loss in Maryland is indicative of a trap that they will run into nationwide: there are conflicting parties in the big tent.
Kaine didn't really play up  abortion and capital punishment, he just said that being Catholic he was opposed to both, but he would uphold the law.
Clear concise, and middle of the road.
That's how you win in the COnfederacy.
by Bruticus 2005-11-09 10:42AM | 0 recs
Re: But the Spin is continuing
The funny thing is that if Warner wins the Nomination in 2008, they will be calling him a flaming liberal.  Bunch of F-ing jack asses.
by yitbos96bb 2005-11-09 10:25AM | 0 recs
Re: But the Spin is continuing
I was going to post something like that, but you beat me to it.  Im sure that the Repugs called Warner a liberal when he ran for governor and continued to call him that during his whole term in office.  Only as a VERY popular incumbent leaving office does he get the title of "conservative."  In fact, to Repugs all Democrats running for office are liberals, no matter what their actual stand on the issues.  If they are popular and if they are leaving office, then they become conservatives.  Then if they run for office again, they once again become liberals.
by Andy Katz 2005-11-09 01:23PM | 0 recs
Re: But the Spin is continuing
If Warner gets the nomination in 2008, and the Republican Party expends considerable energy attempting to paint him as a liberal, they've got some serious problems to contend with because that simply will not work.  
by Eric11 2005-11-09 08:01PM | 0 recs
Superb Post
especially the part about coming to a decision on RoevWade. The Republicans have laid a trap, but now they are caught in it.
by Paul Goodman 2005-11-09 12:28PM | 0 recs
This essay is better suited for Nov 9 2006
by bruh21 2005-11-09 09:06AM | 0 recs
thanks Chris..
I loved your post-election thoughts and it will be your generation that will help get this country back on track.  I was 18 in 1962, marched against the Vietnam War and fought to legalize abortion (because the coat hanger approach was killing too many women)and cannot believe we are fighting the same battles all over again.  I guess history does repeat itself and it seems your generation is having to reinvent the wheel.  Just as politicians never seem to learn from one scandal to another, Quaroa is right in stating we must never rest on our laurels.

Reading your thoughts however makes me so proud to know my generation is now in the hands of another generation that is represented of progressives like you. Even though you haven't been part of the winning national side for most of your political life, take it from someone who lived through the sixties...times are a changing and I truly believe the next 52 weeks will prove your thoughts are on the right track.

Chris, you're a great progressive and you have what it takes to win!

by HWS 2005-11-09 09:12AM | 0 recs
Great piece, Chris!
By the way, Here is my take on what winning feels like.... GOOD! :+)

But I know what you mean...

In 2004 I told my best friend that all the Republicans/conservatives needed was enough rope to hang themselves.  For 5 years I've been waiting for an indication that enough political twine had been provided.  Last night gave us much more than an indication.

God bless!

by Dmitri in San Diego 2005-11-09 10:06AM | 0 recs
Hm before we move on 2006.
Don't forget about CA-48 it's a big uphill but don't forget it.
by Liberal 2005-11-09 10:41AM | 0 recs
What a Difference a Year Makes
I live in Westchester County just north of New York City. The News 12 political analysts on TV last night discussing our local races were talking about how Bush's unpopularity may have helped local Democrats and hurt Republicans.

Whether that is true or not, just the fact that these people were talking about how toxic Bush is right now -- down to even the local level -- tells you how much has changed.

Also, there was a lot of talk about how negative the New Jersey governor's race was. The dustup over Corzine's ex-wife's comments notwithstanding, Corzine rammed Bush down Forrester's throat.

A year is a long time -- look at how different things are from LAST November -- but in real America, Bush got his head handed to him yesterday. Whether the Beltway Dems will wake up is another question.

by Phil from New York 2005-11-09 11:02AM | 0 recs
Re: What a Difference a Year Makes
The News 12 political analysts on TV last night discussing our local races were talking about how Bush's unpopularity may have helped local Democrats and hurt Republicans.

In Tucson, a losing GOP candidate explicitly blamed Bush & Iraq:
Dunbar said the Democrats' overwhelming edge in voter registration allowed them to carry the day. Unlike in past contests, she said, Tucsonans voted along party lines on Tuesday. She also said Demo-crats were motivated by strong feelings against President Bush and the war in Iraq.
Link
by piniella 2005-11-09 11:17PM | 0 recs
A personal note to Chris Bowers
If I may quote Sherlock holmes:

You are an addict. A state I understand all too well. Every time, you need a little bit more.

I prescribe the antidote, to read the "Adventure of the Gloria Scott" in which the roots of his beginnings are traced. Read carefully, with understanding because at no point in time will Holmes reveal why he does what he does. And his passion is fueled, for an ever escalating series of dangers that finally end when he falls from the mountain.

In some sense, as Chris Bonington writes in 'Quest for Adventure' , the pursuit of challenge is a selfish one.  And yet, it is this mountain that you climb - you have chosen to see the electoral results in their proper context. It is not a victory. It is the first stepping stone in an off-year path to 2006 in which the man both you and I, for different reasons, backed - will be unleashed on America.

And for which, I hope this selfsame person will see to it that he does not indulge his base instinct but seeks aggressively, in every race, men who will restore america to her greatness.

Men, I hope, such as yourself. Good luck with your own race. I do not forgive you for pencilling in the wrong name, however.

That is something that , no amount of drinking will erase.

by turnerbroadcasting 2005-11-09 11:11AM | 0 recs
A year's difference
We have to remember that we're talking about American elections and that means that the Republican party will see this election as a warning - every dirty trick in the book and quite a few new ones are going to be coming our way.  It's not like Republicans have any aversion to lying or sliming anyone who disagrees with them.  The next year is going to be a laboratory of political brutality.  

And we should not ever underestimate the Republican willingness to do and say anything they believe necessary to win elections.

I have a final concern, however - the widespread perception that all politicians are crooked and cannot be trusted.  I think a major goal of progressives in general should be to restore faith in both the political process and in politicians.  We may have to talk bad about Dems who are corrupt and that's okay.  30 years of conservative anti-government propaganda has weakened civic institutions and community trust in our institutions.  Restoring integrity - a real agenda not a campaign talking point - could go a long way toward recreating a stable, Democratic governing majority - if people trust the politicians, they'll trust the politics and the government.

by glendenb 2005-11-09 11:15AM | 0 recs
Yeah but remember 2003
We won those off-year elections too -- Herseth in SD, & Ben Chandler in KY.  Didn't help in Nov. 2004...

Sure, enjoy the moment but the moment will be over soon.  Back to work.

by mattgabe 2005-11-09 01:19PM | 0 recs
A good day!
The US electorate likes "divided government" and given half a chance will restore it -- that is how people express their antagonism to "big government" in reality. I see yesterday's very excellent results in that light.

And so I celebrate them -- and agree with all above who say this is no time to rest. I've actually been through a few winning campaigns and the glow is wonderful, but there is always more to do.

As Chris has often said, we have to convince more of a base that being a liberal gives them things they want: security, prosperity, peace.

by janinsanfran 2005-11-09 01:24PM | 0 recs
Voting with Their Wallets
Voters across the nation dealt a major defeat to the radical anti-government movement. In Colorado, California and Washington, the people rejected the starvation tax policies of the Norquistas and reaffirmed their shared commitment to investment in essential public services. Looking ahead to 2006, this augurs well for good government Democrats and represents a stern warning to President Bush and the Congressional GOP.

For the full story, see:

"Voting with Their Wallets."

by AvengingAngel 2005-11-09 01:34PM | 0 recs
Great post chris, but
I still think you give Republicans too much credit.  The only--repeat only--reason they were able to use the base oriented strategy in 2002 and 2004 was because 9/11 gave them the oppurtunity to do so.  They gambled that they could motivate their base adequately and keep just enough moderates because of 9/11 in order to win.  Remember "compassionate conservatism?"  That one disappeared in the ashes of the WTC.  Actually, if it hadn't been for the idiocy of the Iraq War, they might have been pushing that strategy effectively for a long time.  As it stands, I think its fair to say that we are now back to pre-9/11 circumstances.  The Bush administration was seen as weak and ineffective then, and with no mandate.  Democrats were seen effective, if uncompelling without a salesman like Bill Clinton.  If this were a football game and establishing a long term liberal governing coalition the equivilent of winning the game, I'd say we have finally just gotten the ball back.  The Republicans are finally playing defense and this is our chance to go into the lead.
by Jonathan Schwartz 2005-11-09 01:35PM | 0 recs
Failure of the Republican Realignment
Unlike probably most progressives, I think the conditions existed for a Republican realignment, at least a temporary one.  If you look at the "runaway" inflation of the 1970s, the apparent break-down of the social order, the Democrats perceived weakness in foreign policy, the country was ready to hand over leadership to the Repugs in the 1980s.  In fact the 1980 election produced a landslide Republican presidential and senatorial victory and a conservative ideological majority in the HOR.

To get a feel of the opportunity that the Rs had, look at the Presidential elections of 1980 through 1988 using Chris Bowers' "partisan index."  The Republicans had a solid advantage throughout the South, yet were very competitive in the industrial states and even California.  The first Bush's victory in 1988 was particularly impressive.  Winning an 8% popular majority nationally, GHW Bush won something like 426-112 in the electoral college.  In contrast, Clinton won by a larger popular margin in 1996, about 9%, yet had almost 50 less electoral votes then Bush's 1988 total.  In 1988, under the first Bush, the Rs had a great advantage in several parts of the country and were competitive everywhere.  True, they had not yet broken the lock the Dems had in conservative southern House districts, but this was bound to happen eventually, giving the Rs a lock on Congress and the electoral college.

So, what went wrong.  As Chris writes above, the Rs simply went too far to the right.  Now, there are great swaths of the country where they are not competitive, California, Illinois, and the entire east coast.  

Since NJ is on everybody's mind, it is a perfect example of what happened to the Republicans.  Before the far right take-over of the southern ultra conservatives of the Republican party, this state was the epitome of a swing state. New Jersey went with Kennedy in the close 1960 election, went with Nixon in the close 1968 election and even went with Ford when Carter was winning in 1976.  In fact in EVERY election from 1968 to 1992, New Jersey gave the Republican a greater percentage of vote then that candidate won nationally.  Not until 1996 did a Democrat win NJ by a greater margin then he acheived nationally.  By 2000, NJ became solid blue. Ever since, the Rs have been too right wing to compete there.

The Rs move to the far right had two negative consequences.  The first was noted by Chris:  when you go so far to one side of the political spectrum, you greatly diminsish the pool of voters that you can attract.  The Republicans have really hurt themselves among moderate eastern and suburban independant minded voters. As a result, they just are not competitive in large parts of the country.

Despite this fact, I still disagree with Chris' analysis in one important respect.  Even with losing the east coast and certain industrial states, I think the Republican's idea of appealing to the base on first blush had a CHANCE of working except for one thing I will discuss below.  Trying to create an enduring majority by only appealing to the right is not as dumb as it sounds.  Rove and company have been counting on using social issues as a wedge to get the vote of culturally conservative hispanic and latin voters.  That is why Bush has not jumped on the anti immigration band wagon.  IF (and thats a big if) Bush and the Republicans had been able to hold on to the votes they had and add to that a large percentage of hispanics and latins, the part of the population that is increasing the fastest, they had a chance to build a majority.

Yet, their effort was doomed to fail for a reason that Chris doesnt discuss.  One of the huge political negatives about going so far to the right is that it has made Republican governance impossible.  Republicans are simply not willing to be "serious" about governing, about policy, because it conflicts with their far right political strategy. Good governance requires a certain level of government activity, yet the far right wants to "drown" government.  Good governance requires a certain level of taxation, but the one inflexible creed of modern conservatives is to hate taxation above all else.  Good governance requires a reliance on science and promotes public education, two enemies of modern conservatives.  I could go on and on.  Because the Republicans cant govern, there was no way for them to hold on to the votes they had, let alone build an enduring majority.

Ironically, the first Bush is looked on by conservatives as the ultimate "failed" politician.  The one whose experience must be used as an example of what to avoid at all costs.  Yet, had the Republicans continued in the GHW Bush mold and attracted moderates and independants by being the "environmental" party and the "education" party, they would be in much better shape.  They still could have satisfied their base by being "better" then the Democrats on regulatory, taxation and social issues. With their party still viable among independants and eastern moderates and with their base still on board, they might have achieved the majority status they so desired.  Ultimately, I think their dominance would not have lasted more then a decade or two.  Even moderately conservative policies are woefully inadequate to solve the problems caused by globalism.  Yet, they would certainly be in better shape then they are today.

Instead, they have caved to their base and as a result, will, if the Democrats are wise enough and committed enough to pursue good policy, be consigned to minority status for a generation.

George W. Bush and Karl Rove may go down in history as the best friends the Democrats ever had.

by Andy Katz 2005-11-09 02:14PM | 0 recs
Chris, I was 18 in 1992 so I
know exactly what you mean.  It's hard to celebrate, especially since a great celebration was aborted on election night 2000.  I cannot wait until that fat ass is out of the Speaker's chair and that quack is out as Majority Leader.

But I am hopeful of a President Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2009, to go with Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Reid in 2007.

by jgarcia 2005-11-09 02:58PM | 0 recs
With tears in my eyes..
I meant to write something inspiring but could never match what you fine people have written.
You all make me feel so proud.
This is a gerat time to be a Democrat!
by Dougyg 2005-11-09 03:00PM | 0 recs
HRC in 06?
Sorry, jgarcia, but while I personally have nothing, apart from her craven stand on the war, against HRC, I can't think offhand of another (plausible) Democratic candidate as certain to GOTV for the other side. Republican voters who might otherwise sit out the next one in a demoralized funk will crawl out of wheelchairs or climb out of iron lungs if necessary to cast a vote against the dreaded Witch of Wellesley. I do not endorse this attitude, I merely acknowledge it. Why pre-amplify the Noise Machine? Make 'em work for their slanders!
by rcareaga 2005-11-09 03:43PM | 0 recs
Re: HRC in 06?
Sorry, rcareaga,

Kerry brought those same people out in droves in 2004.  Turnout was massive.  I am sure those rightwingers were pretty damn motivated then.  No dice.  Your argument doesn't hold water.  

If 2004 wasn't a record-breaking turnout election, your argument may have a point.  2004 was the Right's high-water mark.  People on the Left need to get out of their Left ghettoes more and see what conservatives really think.  I come from a wingnut family.  Half of them have expressed interest in voting for Hillary.  They HATED John Kerry though.

by jgarcia 2005-11-09 06:29PM | 0 recs
Conservative movement has not been repudiated
(Hey Chris, see ya at the next meeetup)

Hate to say this...but, the conservative agenda has not been "repudiated".

 Perhaps, "incompetence" has been repudiated. Perhaps, "disgust with scandals" that the media is exploiting right now may have givin us some victories...Maybe some rejection of the "anti-social service" trend as someone just pointed out.

But, waiting for "indictments" or extreme incompetence is no way to win elections. Especially, long term. Because, as of today, we still haven't done what the Repugnant Party has done to liberal Democrats for over twenty years...by "debunking" the liberal agenda. Why have we not attacked the conservative philosophy at it's core continually? It must be exposed and ridiculed consistently for any long term effect.

Over sixty percent of Americans surveyed still call themselves "conservatives" even as they agree with almost every "progressive" stance, when the questions are correctly posed.

Still today, I hear people say things like, "I don't know anything about either candidate, so I think I'll vote for smaller government, I guess Repub". Why do I have to hear some Democrats say, "I'll bring you smaller government too".

 Exactly when do we as progressives intend to confront the scam that "smaller government" is?...and this is just one example.

 A better question would be, "How do you like "smaller goverment" now, after we've seen it in action or rather "inaction" during Katrina. That's what a Repub means when they call for smaller government...as a citizen, you are truly on your own...(and... those rich Repub contributors don't need government to boot...you do).

I'm belaboring this point because it illustrates the way almost every conservative "ideal" can be taken apart and thrown on the trash heap with easily digestible retorts to the mass of people that vote, but don't really know when they're being fooled by conservative con-artists..."Joe and Jane Voter".

....the ones you see on Yahoo message boards talking about "handouts to minorites"...not the tiny clics of political junkies on blogs.

Let me take it a little further and try to be concise.

Who really wants "smaller government"?

  1. Big business: to avoid scrutiny as they pillage shareholders or reneg on your pension fund (if I want to rob a bank, I want the smallest police force).

  2. Southern bigots: that much easier to turn back the clock without fear of Federal troops returning to southern soil again. People should know that almost every Repub leader is a southern white male.

  3. Religious right-wing: smaller Fed gov equals more "states rights", so they can do as they please in local schools as they replace science with religious dogma.

As I stated awhile back, it's funny how some Dems are all abuzz about Lakeoff and the need to "frame" and develop an easily digestible progressive language, but I guess the Repugs being so close to big business learned years ago as I did about "persuasion"... the technique of "assume the sale",... is everything we're talking about today, twenty years later.      

 

by Tony68 2005-11-09 08:09PM | 0 recs

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