Growing The Party

Growing the Democratic Party is perhaps the most crucial task we can commit ourselves to over the next year. If we're successful, we have a very serious chance to win back control of Congress. Two stories in particular have brought the issue to my attention today. Mathew Gross, commenting on the latest polling and strategy memo from Democracy Corps highlights Carville and Greenberg's suggestion that "Democrats should revisit the Perot voters and their concerns" if they want to "become the party of change" in 2006. Meanwhile, at CQ Weekly (subscription only), the cover story "New Heaven, New Earth" examines the political branching out of evangelical Christians into areas outside of anti-abortion activism.

These are two very interesting jumping-off points for Democrats interested in showing disaffected Republicans and independents that the Democratic 'big tent' certainly has room for them. Here's how Carville and Greenberg define Ross Perot's natural base, which they view as up for grabs in 2006.

His voters were the most anti-political and anti-elitist, anti-big government and big corporations, anti-free trade and anti-immigration. They were pro-military but anti-foreign entanglements. They were libertarian and secular, pro-gun and pro-choice. The Perot voters were younger, more blue collar and rural, and economically pressed and uneasy in the new economy. They were also angry with the political and economic elites that failed to represent them.

They argue that this was the group that helped shift the House to the Republicans in 1994 as well as breaking for Bush in 2000. Examining this list point-by-point, it's easy to see how this group could be swayed to the Democrats in next year's midterms.

...Democrats created a near majority with their coalition of suburban and more secular voters, the best educated and more cosmopolitan, union households, and the growing number of minority voters, particularly African Americans and Hispanics. But that has been more than offset by their dramatic decline among white rural and blue collar voters - the consequence of the values issues but also of Democrats not figuring out how to incorporate the dislodged Perot voters.

This echoes some of what we heard from Howard Dean during his presidential campaign. It also lines up well with what we know about the recent successes in Montana Democrats championing a progressive populist message. My fear is that many of the Perot voters are simply anti-government and therefore anti-incumbent. Though they very well could vote for Democrats in 2006, can we really count on them to stick with the party over the long haul?

The CQ Weekly story about the broadening interests of evangelical Christians could also play into a strategy of winning back white, rural, blue collar voters. Though evangelicals have been a core constituency of the Republican Party, there is some reason to believe that at least a handful of these voters can be peeled from the shaky Republican coalition.

Issues like environmental stewardship, the elimination of poverty, and fair trade are very important to some Christians. While abortion has been the dominating political issue for evangelicals, it's certainly not the only one. And as the Miers nomination has shown, more and more of these voters feel as if the Republicans have been paying them lip service all these years. If the politics of abortion are taken off the table, the fact of the matter is that these voters have more in common with progressive Democrats than they do big business Republicans.

No one is suggesting we should align ourselves with Falwell and Robertson. However, if we vigorously and (unlike the Republicans) honestly make the case to evangelicals that Democratic ideals are much in common with their ideals, we'll win some converts and strengthen our coalition.

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Immigration
His voters were the most anti-political and anti-elitist, anti-big government and big corporations, anti-free trade and anti-immigration. They were pro-military but anti-foreign entanglements. They were libertarian and secular, pro-gun and pro-choice. The Perot voters were younger, more blue collar and rural, and economically pressed and uneasy in the new economy. They were also angry with the political and economic elites that failed to represent them.

Looking down this list, I think the single biggest disagreement that Democrats in general will have with the Perot voters is immigration.  Perhaps it's not a surprise that the Republicans have already decided to make immigration their wedge issue in 2006?  Maybe they've already looked at this group of voters and seen they could turn towards the Dems, so they want to make immigration a big issue so they don't.

by Fran for Dean 2005-10-17 01:31PM | 0 recs
Why should Dems support illegal
immigration (= lower wages and labor standards for everyone)? I have never understood that.
by Populism2008 2005-10-17 02:17PM | 0 recs
Re: Why should Dems support illegal
Who says that Dems support illegal immigration?  I think you will be hard pressed to find anyone who is willing to stand in support of this claim.

The potential immigration wedge-issue is something I cannot get my mind around.  I mean the increase in illegal immigration and the decrease in border control has occured under both a Republican president and Republican congress.  Why is this such a good issue for them?  They're the ones to blame.  

In my opinion, this is such an easy issue to counter and throw back in their face, it's not even funny.  

  1. Why didn't you guys prevent this from happening?
  2. If you care so much about national security, why is to possible for so many people to cross our borders without difficulty?
  3. Why have you underfunded border control?

The list could go on and on.  We cannot clam up on this issue, afraid to call out the Republicans on there irresponsbility simply because we may offend a few people. We will gain the support of many and help bring back the Perot supporters that the Democracy Corps article focuses on.  
by Eric11 2005-10-17 08:03PM | 0 recs
Re: Immigration
No Fran, not anti immigration.  Anti illegal immigration.........I am a Dean supporter, a liberal, and I am sick and tired of illegals and their costs to us in security, social programs, and lowering wages and benefits.  
by oakland 2005-10-18 05:12AM | 0 recs
Exactly
If person X, who is currently here illegally, went through all the hoopla and paper work that citizens in this country go through every day, an came here legally, you wouldn't hear a peep out of me. Paperwork etc. is part of Civilization.
by Paul Goodman 2005-10-19 06:54AM | 0 recs
Its just so beautiful..
Evanglical means simple. It means being about things that your children can understand.

I think the strongest statement that this post makes, is just how hungry people are for real change that brings - for lack of a better term - straight talkin', roll up your sleeves action.

The vast majority of America is right there in this category - and let me tell you, this is not a stupid group of people, what with Stem Cell Research approval at 67% now..  we could very well be ready for the 21st century.

I have to say, personally, I love hanging out here at mydd and if I disagree with you, I disagree with you - but posts like this are what I live for.

Imagine for a second, taking your kids to Washington and being able to point to the white house and say with pride. .. "Son, thats where the PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES works.." .

by turnerbroadcasting 2005-10-17 01:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Its just so beautiful..
This is what the Democratic base has been trying to tell the party.  Get back to basics.  Protect work, freedom, opportunity, fairness and the planet.  The beltway Dems keep saying this is "radical extremism".  They don't have a clue who their voters are or what they want.   Everybody expects Republicans to be selfish and corrupt because they have been for almost 30 years now.   But Democrats should know and be better.   Why have they forgotten their roots - the working class - not poor and black - the middle class.  Black and white, north and south, secular and non-secular, those of us who still believe in America and the American dream.  Our politicians have worked hard to destroy both of them; but if we can get our message to the beltway Dems, maybe we can salvage our country and our lives.
by oakland 2005-10-18 05:17AM | 0 recs
PS A perot voter was hungry for a chart
Perot was never about throwing the bastards out. After all, Bush was running after coasting down the coat-tails of Reagan. People voted for Perot, not against Bush.. that was clear.

I think the best way to look at the Perot numbers is to look at the race before he pulled out in the late spring, after the debates.. Most people had cottoned
to what he was saying by then and thats the core group.

After he pulled out of the race, and re-entered, you've got a different set of voters... quite possibly a small core of savvy voters that figured out his daughter was being set up for a political hit - but the rest of them were by and large ABB

The early Perot voters were the fertile ground, go back a month before pullout and thats where you grow.

by turnerbroadcasting 2005-10-17 01:54PM | 0 recs
sorry
I won't be focusing on growing the Democratic Party until I see some back bone to add on to.

I can flesh out a scultpure with the best of them but I need an armature to work from.  I'm tired of having to curb my ideals to help a candidate and won't let it happen again.

So if you want my help...state the democratic platform for the next 2 years.

Tell me who is in charge of technology for the Dems and how I can contribute.

Tell me how the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party will beat the DLC without becoming the DLC.

And do it quickly.

 

by goplies 2005-10-17 02:59PM | 0 recs
Re: sorry
You know you are asking for a miracle.  I hope you/we all get one.
by oakland 2005-10-18 05:20AM | 0 recs
Re: sorry
word
by goplies 2005-10-18 08:23AM | 0 recs
Iraq war is the 600 pound Gorilla & Minorities
I read the report carefully and nodded my head while reading it. I agree and applaud the entire report, but we are at war.  Were it Peace time you would have the perfect script for success in this document. I am a giant Carville and Greenberg fan, Schrum has lost my support of late.

It is critical to be clear about a broad plan by looking at the entire playing field, a battle map is required. In a battle map just as much study is placed on the other side as on ours, then a strategy is formed, debated, looked at and researched. That agreed upon, we have Third-Way's strategy, Barack Obama's way forward, Senator Levin's Iraq strategy, the Jamestown Project and many others.

Scott, what would be neat to do and I might attempt this at Aroused Newsis to create a strategy Battle Map that looks at all of them, the contradictions, what falls short, comparisons on issues and the way forward.

Iraq was not mentioned in the study and I wonder how the Democratic Party should be handling it. Cindy Sheehan would like Democrats to change thier tune on Iraq, specifically Sen. Hillary Clinton. Where is Hillary, is it too early for her to appear as a strong alternative to the Republicans? I don't think so. Why can't she be out there framing the issues, pointing out the inequities, social injustices and economic depression the Republicans are sending us into? The Iraq war is a tough issue.

Finally the report mentions reaching out to the "white rural voter". I agree we have to be inclusive, but not to the detriment or to take for granted the Latino or African-American voters. I attended the "While Democracy Sleeps" panel at Yale and was motivated to believe that we have to plan for how to win back the South. Carville's own homestate, Louisiana voted Republican, Tennessee, Al Gores home state voted Republican. The whole Southeast has to be re-thought.

I do not believe that it is just Hillary Clinton who has to get out and begin positing a new "Contract with America", but it is every Democratic Spokesman, Representative, Senator, State Congressman, Local officials, a United Democratic Front.

by ArousedNewsJulienDavid 2005-10-17 03:34PM | 0 recs
The best way to appeal
to these Perotistas is being anti "government-in-your-lives" and pro-freedom.  Choice and pro-gun.  Perotistas resent the religious right telling them what to do.  But they also don't seem to favor gun control, as many grew up in gun homes.

However, since it has been almost FIFTEEN years since Perot first came on the scene, it can be foolish to put too much stock in these voters' values.  The 80s and early nineties baby-boom kids are/will be coming of age and there's a lot of em.  And they are socially libertarian, very pro-college education (includes public universities) and overwhelmingly for national healthcare.  They need to know that if Republicans have their way that a woman's right to choose would be over, only the rich would get health care, and the public universities would be defunded and dismantled.

IMO, we should concentrate on getting young and new voters aligned and loyal to the Democrats and get them into the habit of being high-efficacy voters.  Not fly-by-nights.  Create a new and reliable solid Democratic voting bloc.

by jgarcia 2005-10-17 05:40PM | 0 recs
Good point--and remember the wisdom of Karl Rove
He doesn't win the Hispanic or the Jewish or the black vote--rather, with a variety of appeals, he peels off some here, some there, 2%, 3%, 5%, but something.

Carter and Gore did much better with the Evangelical constituency than Kerry.  And we probably can't win the Perot voting bloc.  But 2% here, and 5% there, and pretty soon the political equivalent of the old Everett Dirksen saw becomes apt.

by dell 2005-10-17 08:41PM | 0 recs
Duh!
"His voters were the most anti-political and anti-elitist, anti-big government and big corporations, anti-free trade and anti-immigration. They were pro-military but anti-foreign entanglements. They were libertarian and secular, pro-gun and pro-choice. The Perot voters were younger, more blue collar and rural, and economically pressed and uneasy in the new economy. They were also angry with the political and economic elites that failed to represent them."

These ARE not Perot voters.   They are GD Democrats who were/are fed up with the freakin party and tried to leave.  This is the GD base of the Democratic Party that they keep calling a bunch of extremists.   We have been trying to tell the Dem beltway boys this, but they don't want to listen.  They just keep on catering to Republican lites in Kansas.  

WE ARE SICK OF DEMOCRATS WHO ACT LIKE REPUBLICANS AND HAVE NO BACKBONE OR CORE DEMOCRATIC VALUES.  Get off the "god" thing and get people back to work, provide them health care, quit letting the corporations go overseas and bail on pensions; protect the GD environment so we don't choke to death or get blown off the planet, educate the children and the workers.  In other words,  try being a Democrat!

by oakland 2005-10-18 05:10AM | 0 recs
One more thing...........
"...highlights Carville and Greenberg's suggestion that "Democrats should revisit the Perot voters and their concerns" if they want to "become the party of change" in 2006."

Screw Carville and the horse he rode in on.  That sob is DLC all the way and really screwed over Dean.  

by oakland 2005-10-18 05:22AM | 0 recs
It's about culture and values...
...when I saw John Kerry standing up there in Iowa with Barney Frank and Ted Kennedy behind him, I feared the game was over.  Not that I don't love Barney and Ted, but come on...out here in the Midwest we don't want a bunch of establishment semi-liberals telling us that "help is on the way."

"Help" sounds like a handout, and the voters being talked about in this report most assuredly don't want, or think they don't want, that.  They want to be given opportunity, a level playing field, etc, and they want a leader who can relate to them at least on some level.  THey just couldn't buy John Kerry as someone who could ever fathom what it's like to be them.

Unfair to Kerry, who campaigned bettr than I thought he would, and to Bush, who inexplicably gets people to think he's one of them.

I'm not advocating for a "poser" or a Southerner by necessity, but we need to run candidates who relate to ordinary folks and on a platform that is, as other posters have said, about the real values of what used to be the Democratic Party.  WIth the unions gone and wages declining, it's not surprising that the less privileged are turning to Jesus for a post-life reward, as it's hard to see how they can get rewarded on this planet.

by wilky 2005-10-18 07:57AM | 0 recs
I voted for Perot...
...because he seemed like the only honest person with common sense running for the Presidency in my lifetime who had an actual chance to win.

I typically vote Libertarian, but Democrats could appeal to me if they pledged to balance the budget without raising taxes (i.e. cut spending modestly), started bringing US troops home from Iraq, Germany, Korea, Japan, etc., stopped siding with Republicans on government invasions of privacy (like the Patriot Act), and defended the 2nd Amendment (along with the 10th.)

I would have considered voting for Howard Dean against George Bush (the most anti-libertarian president in my lifetime), but John Kerry was out of the question.

by Lex 2005-10-18 10:08AM | 0 recs
Re: I voted for Perot...
I voted for Perot when I first could vote for him because I was sick of both the parties, and I wanted change and I thought he was a rational man with real ideas. I was ok with Clinton because he did a half desent job and supported gore because bush is nuts but was very unpolitical after that I was brought back into politics by Wesley Clark and Support Kerry because I had no choice.  

I became really involved in Democratic politics because of Wesley Clark because I thought he was a really great candidate on par with Perot and was really disapointed when he didn't get nominated.

Towards the end of the Clark campaign I started to become introduced to the distastful part of politics that consultants that come in and take over the campaign people who lack any idea of what they are doing but are given positions of power because they can raise money.

I got introduced during the Kerry campaign to the most distasteful part of the Democratic party the campaign coordinator and the inept party leadership who worship the Ncec report and belittle anyone who quesition it.

I personally was also turned off by the neo-liberals that seems to demoniate the activist base of the party who doen't seem to understand anyone outside their little clics.

Then there is the party leadership that doesn't want to hear any new ideas that they don't think of first and go out and try and destroy people they can't control. Even if the end the activities the people are doing benefit the party.

The party leadership seems to be more interested in ruling a very small kingdom than sharing glory with other people.

They let the state level candidates hang during major elections.

Now I am really discusted by the fact the same group of Neo-liberal where I live are trying to use the fact that they are the most active group to more or less force a candidate that somewhere in their deluded minds they think can get elected on the moderate democrats in the county.  

In a very conserative county while insisting that this person can get elected even thought they have run several people just like him in the past who were slaughtered and they more or less only got the votes of those neo-liberal democrats who shoved that person thru the primary by using their activism and control of the party to drive moderate candidates out of the races.

I am personally becoming turned off by what is becoming a neo elitist Liberal party that is run by people that as heavy handed as the religious right in the republican party. That are illogical and have no sence of is electiblity but that they feel since they believe this person is electible eveyone else must and losing over and over doesn't seem to change these rationalizations.

You want to attract perot supporter to start supporting Democrat stop calling us republican-lite and start runing reasonible moderate candidates. Not Phoney moderates like Kerry that use the party structure to shove an unelectable candidate thru.  

by orin76 2005-10-18 08:54PM | 0 recs
Perot The Candidate
Scott,

Excellent post.  

Gathering votes from traditional American Republicans will be difficult.  I for one am a 'reformed-Republican', much like Reagan was a reformed-Democrat, and I fall into the catagory of values that you claim Democrats want to attract.

To win over and reform others, Democrats need to demonstrate true concern for the cultural values of traditional Americans - those who don't watch the debate until it's put on television; those who only listen when it becomes paramount, and we are in such times.  People are listening, let's us not disappoint them.

Democrats need to attract candidates, tough talking centrists, who will remind the boomers of the Perot surge and the Gen Xers of traditional Democratic platforms:  good jobs, clean illegal immigrant-free neighborhoods, and a strong and growing international American presence, etc.  

While I voted for Kerry and check 'Democratic Candidates' on my MASS ballot; I did not believe that he would win over the Nation.  Not one of the major candidates would have.  Why?  Not one of them get's it; you need a Hawkish candidate who will not declare an on-going or concluded war as a mistake.  All wars are mistakes.  But, to tell the people who fougt it and are now in a low-rent job that "your efforts were a mistake, but, I can get you a better wage" is foolishness.

Line up candidates in 2006 who's only impact on traditional citizens is to remind them of partisanship, give them the sense that leftist idiologies are lingering behind the mask, and I am certain the "man-date" will continue for the Republicans.

by rhough 2005-10-21 05:55PM | 0 recs

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