Nine Hours Until the End of the United States

Since I live and blog mostly from a church called "The Agape House," I had to blog on this story from Agape Press:

The co-founder of Campus Crusade for Christ says the legalization of same-sex marriage could bring God's judgment on the United States. Vonette Bright says the Bible condemns homosexual behavior and teaches that "nations have been destroyed before us as a result of their moral decadence."

The federal judge who rejected the latest legal challenge to same-sex marriage in Massachusetts offered the following, appropriately sarcastic rebuke to this and similarly overheated claims:

The judge said the plaintiffs made it sound as if homosexual marriage would "be the end of the world." He added, "It hasn't been."

Not only is the world not about to end, on this issue Bright, Bush and other conservatives are now in the moral minority. Kerry's position in support of full-legal equality for same-sex couples is now the majority opinion of the country:

Newsweek Poll, conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates. May 13-14, 2004. 1,010 Adults, MoE 3

"There has been much talk recently about whether gays and lesbians should have the legal right to marry someone of the same sex. Which of the following comes closest to your position on this issue? Do you support FULL marriage rights for gay and lesbian couples; do you support gay civil unions or partnerships, BUT NOT gay marriage; or, do you oppose ANY legal recognition for gay and lesbian couples?"

       Marriage       Civil Unions       No Legal Rec.        Don't Know
ALL         28               23            43                6
18-29       41               23            34                2
30-49       34               20            40                6
50-64       23               27            46                4
65+          8               26            57                9

Among those under 30, support for equal marriage rights borders on a super-majority. Among those under 65, opposition to equal rights is only 40%.

I wonder sometimes if we would have come this far on the issue if candidates such as Dean did not sign the civil unions bill, or if candidates such as Kerry did not vote against the Defense of Marriage Act (which even Wellstone voted for). Early on in the primary season, I remember many commentators (even a few Democratic ones) claiming both candidates were "unelectable" because their support for gay rights would make them unappealing to the mushy-middle. Well, on the eve of legal gay marriage in Massachusetts, now the mushy-middle agrees with Dean and Kerry.

Tomorrow is a good day to be an American.

Update 8:34 p.m.: World still not over.

Update: 11:16 p.m.: World is still hanging in there--for another 44 minutes anyway.

Update 12:26 a.m.: Ahhhhh!!!!! Its the rapture! The pain! The pain! If only I had repented at my last update!

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6 Comments

Just thought I'd comment:
"Kerry's position in support of full-legal equality for same-sex couples is now the majority opinion of the country:"

Except that Kerry doesn't really support equality, he supports civil unions, which certainly is not the same as marriage.

In fact, Kerry and Mitt Romney have the same exact position regarding the Massachusetts Constitution: they both say that it needs a clause prohibiting gay marriage.

by Mr Moderate 2004-05-16 06:26PM | 0 recs
Marriage vs. Civil Unions
Hey, I prefer marriage as well, but in the end its just a word.

When you think about it, anyone who is legally married in the US is actually in a civil union. The state only has the power to unionize people. Marriage is a term used within a religious context.  

by Chris Bowers 2004-05-16 07:09PM | 0 recs
Marriage vs. Civil Unions
"Hey, I prefer marriage as well, but in the end its just a word."

No, no it's not.

A married couple in VT gets survivor benefits from social security while a civilly united couple does not.  A married couple in VT who moves next door to NH stays married.  A civilly united couple who makes the same move does not.

Gay marriage in Massachusetts brings with it the strong possibility of court challenges to the federal court.  Civil unions brings no such thing.

It's more than just a word.

by Mr Moderate 2004-05-18 08:18AM | 0 recs
Well, then that's not a good civil union
The only way I would find civil unions acceptable would be if they have exactly the same legal rights as marriages. Otherwise, tis not legal rights.

Thank you for letting me know the difference.

by Chris Bowers 2004-05-18 12:33PM | 0 recs
Hasn't Massachusetts been destroyed yet?
My gosh it's over an hour past midnight and the commonwealth still exists!  

Count me as one of the older folks who supports same-sex marriage.  I've always hated bigotry and discrimination.  Everyone should have the same marriage rights.  It IS a civil right.  

I wish Kerry was against the proposed state constitutional amendment in Massachusetts.  We likely will have such a proposal on our state ballot in November.  Polls here show support for the amendment ahead 3-2.  I hope Ohioans wake up by November and defeat this abomination.  I can't imagine my state supporting an amendment to ban interracial marriage.  I see no difference.  And Kerry is no Romney.

by Retired in Ohio 2004-05-16 09:28PM | 0 recs
That was me as "Anonymous Hero" above...
I thought I'd logged in in the process of submitting the comment, I'm still getting the hang of how things work over here.
by David 2004-05-18 11:03AM | 0 recs

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